Need help finding relatives i USA

[Steffen Andersen]

Looking for any help to find relatives i USA.
I do know it might prove rather difficult.
Short story: My grandmother (Edith Rasmussen born Christensen born 1897 in Horsens) had 3 brothers who emmigrated to USA.
All was born in Horsens, Nim, Skaanderborg, Denmark
I am looking for their  descendants.
1st. Brother Harald Simon Christensen
2nd. Brother Carl Fridtjoff Christensen born 2 june 1900
3rd. Brother Carl Christian Christensen born 7 marts 1903

Details of 1st brother:
Harald Simon Christensen (also seen as Harol)
Born: 4 Maj 1891 - Horsens Købstad, Niim , Skanderborg , Danmark                   
Baptised: 5 Jul. 1891 - Horsens Købstad, Niim , Skanderborg , Danmark                   
He may be the person died: 17 Maj 1975 - Fullerton, Orange, California, USA. (Ancestry.com)

Father: Carl Christian Christensen (1855-1912)
Mother: Petrea Ane Johanne Elisabeth Simonsen (1861-Efter 1946)

Facts:
     
Seen in cencus  1901, 1905, i Horsens Købstad.

He lived 1914 in Århus Købstad.

On 18 Jan. 1917 he left for USA on S/S Frederik VIII  as purpose for the voyage he stated
"visit Father in law mr Kjærbye, 174 Mystic Aveneu, Somerville, Massachusetts, USA".(Ellis Island)

Seen in cencus 1920 in Somerville, Massachusetts. Where he worked as an Telegraph Operator. (Ancestry.com)
Seen in cencus 1920 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States. (Ancestry.com) 
Seen in cencus 1930 in Brooklyn - New York. Where he worked as Cable ??, at National Cty Board. (Ancestry.com)
Seen in cencus 1940 in Wayne, Passaic, New Jersey, United States. (Ancestry.com)
     
He was maried 29 Nov. 1914 in Århus - Frue , Hasle , Århus , Denmark to

Asta Irene Kjærbye
Born: 6 Maj 1897 - Århus, Hasle , Århus , Denmark
Adresse: Ryesgade 27, Århus, Danmark
Baptised: 15 Aug. 1897 - Århus - Domkirke, Hasle, Århus
Dead: ??
         
Father: Malermester, Johan Christian Kjærbye
Mother: Kristin Ane Louise Jensine Christensen

     
Children:
Wolf Egon Kjærby Christensen
Born: 25 Dec. 1915 - Århus, Hasle , Århus , Denmark
Baptised: 6 Feb. 1916 - Århus - Domkirke, Hasle, Århus
Maybe he died in 1991 (Ancestry.com)
Maybe he married a woman named Louise born ca. 1918-  (Ancestry.com)
I dont know whether they had any children     
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Irene Christensen
Born: 1928 - New York,,, USA
Dead: ??
Maried: ??
Seen in cencus 1930 in Brooklyn - New York.(Ancestry.com)
Seen in cencus 1940 in Wayne, Passaic, New Jersey, United States. (Ancestry.com)
I know she had at least 2 doughters.
Robin and Nancy
Nancy born 1956 according to notes on a photo.

This two girls must still be alive, and will be mine 2nd cousins I believe.
But how to find them?



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[Lisbeth W. Johnson]

This came up at Google: http://rafaelsen.dk/slaegtdata/webtrees/individual.php?pid=I129&ged=Andersen-Rafaelsen   

[Lisbeth W. Johnson]

Try to find a local newspaper, it is a posibility to find it on line, to search:
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

Here is Wolf's death.

Florida Death Index, 1877-1998 about Wolff Egon Christensen
Name:    Wolff Egon Christensen
Death Date:    22 Mar 1991
County of Death:    Martin
State of Death:    Florida
Age at Death:    75
Race:    White
Birth Date:    25 Dec 1915

At the time of his death he was living at 7973 SE Villa Circle, Hobe Sound, Florida.

He enlisted in the US Army on 16 Oct 1942 and was living in New Jersey at the time.

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Paul

[Steffen Andersen]

Hi Lisbeth

I do know the the homepage, it is mine 

Newspapers you referred to are only up to 1922, but there might be others

[Steffen Andersen]

Hej Paul

Thank you

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

Here is the death of Carl Christian Christensen
Carl Christian Christensen

Birth:    Mar. 7, 1903
Death:    Jan. 19, 1967
Burial:
Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Hollywood Hills)
Los Angeles
Los Angeles County
California, USA
Plot: Vale of Peace, Map A52, Lot 5535, Space 3

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Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

I found this website where the woman is willing to scan a photo of Wolff E. Christensen from his 1934 high school yearbook http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/print.cgi?ny/kings::6790.html

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Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

This website has information on Danes in New Jersey http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~njdane/index.html.  I would e-mail Wendy Hudson at danenj@aol.com, give her the information you have and see if she has any information on your family.

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Paul

[Erik Schaefer]

I think finding the girls may be difficult since the Censuses end after 1940.  The girls would have married and since we do not have their married names it becomes nearly impossible.

Since you know the date and place Wolf died, I would suggest you contact that country clerk and order his death record.  You might also contact the local historical society or library in that county and they can look up his obituary in the paper.  The obituary many times would list surviving family, possibly his nieces (with their married names).

I think starting with Wolf is the best approach.  If you need help getting this information let me know.  Be warned most local historical societies and county clerks will charge a fee for these records.  I have typically paid about $25 per death record.

[Steffen Andersen]

Hej Poul and Erik
Thank you for your input

I have e-mailed these two
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/print.cgi?ny/kings::6790.html
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~njdane/index.html.

Erik I think you are right that starting with Wolf might be the best approach.  I wil be very happy if you can spare time helping getting more information about Wolf.
I know that there will be a fee to be paid, no problem.

Attached a file with info gained so far.

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[Erik Schaefer]

Hi Steffen,

I am 3 hours behind Florida time, and I'm already at work today.  I will contact the appropriate Florida locations tomorrow and see what I can find about Wolf for you.

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Steffen and Erik,

I e-mailed the Martin County Public Library and asked them if they had an obituary for Wolff.  I will let you know what they say.

Sincerely,
Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

I received the following from the Martin County Library
Hello Paul,
 
We do have obituaries from that time period but unfortunately there wasn't one
for Mr. Christensen on our Stuart News microfilm, it looks like one was never
published.

We will continue to look for your American relatives.

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Paul

[Steffen Andersen]

Hej Poul

Thank´s so far

I received mail from Wendy, she is on holliday bat will return this week, and look into the matter.

Then I posted info on Wolff at ancestry message board and received this.

"Wollf was married to
Louise N Christensen, born 6 May 1917
Last known place of residence was Hialeah, Florida. As of 2009.
I have not located her on any death index. No children were located, doesn't mean there weren't any.
Probate records in Marin County have his death certificate and sale of property there. There might be some info there. not sure?"

I dont where he got the info from, but if it is correct it looks like Louise moved to Hialeah after Wolf´s dead, and was alive in 2009.

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

Here is Louise's death

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about Louise Christensen
Name:    Louise Christensen    
BORN:    6 May 1917
Died:    5 Nov 2011
State (Year) SSN issued:    New York (Before 1951)

and here is a public record that shows she was at the same address as Wolff

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 about Louise N Christensen
Name:    Louise N Christensen
Birth Date:    6 May 1917
Address:    7973 SE Villa Cir, Hobe Sound, FL, 33455-2078
[5600 W 12th Ave, Hialeah, FL, 33012-2335 (1995)]

and a second public record

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 2 about Louise N Christensen
Name:    Louise N Christensen
Birth Date:    6 May 1917
Address:    126 W 44th St, Hialeah, FL, 33012-4013

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Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

Attached is a 1947 manifest of a ship coming from Venezuela and both Wolff and Louise are passengers.  At the time they were living in Packanack Lake, New Jersey.  Perhaps this was their honeymoon.  You might want to e-mail Wendy Hudson and let her know this.

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Paul

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[Steffen Andersen]

Hej Paul

Mailed Wendy with the new info.

attached updated file

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[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

Some information on Carl Christian Christensen to add to your file.

Looking at his naturalization it says he is divorced and his wife Inga was born 12 Jan 1901 in København and they were divorced by 1939.  According to the 1930 census Inga came to the US in 1922.  I found an Inga B.M. Andersen born in København c 1902 arriving on 24 Jul 1922 on the Frederik VIII.  Here she is in the police registry http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2145141&searchname=polit_simple

In a 1947 manifest for the Batory arriving in New York from København he is traveling with his new wife Marion Jane Christensen, born c. 1920 in Emerson, Nebraska.  Here is her death in California                                                   
California, Death Index, 1940-1997 about Marion Jane Christensen
Name:    Marion Jane Christensen
[Marion Jane Davis]     
Social Security #:    573405896
Gender:    Female
Birth Date:    10 Mar 1920
Birth Place:    Nebraska
Death Date:    19 Jun 1989
Death Place:    Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name:    Peterson
Father's Surname:    Davis


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Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

According to Harald Simon Christensen's 1942 draft registration he and Asta were living in Packanack Lake, New Jersey.  In 1920 he became a Mason in Massachusetts.  According to the 1925 New York census, Harald's mother, Anna, age 64, is living with them in Brooklyn, New York.

Ane Johanne (Eliz) Christensen arrived in New York on 23 Apr 1925 on the Oscar II.  She was a widow and going to H. Christensen of Brooklyn.  Perhaps she died in the US.  You might want to tell Wendy about her.

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Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

I think I may have located Irene Christensen's marriage.  An Irene A. Christensen married Roger E. Gaylord in Orange County (that's where Harald died) on 20 Jul 1963.  Here is her death (Note she registered for Social Security in New Jersey and that is where the family lived in 1940).                                                             
U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about Irene C. Gaylord
Name:    Irene C. Gaylord    
SSN:    142-20-4591
Last Residence:    92653  Laguna Hills, Orange, California, USA
BORN:    3 Aug 1927
Died:    24 May 2003
State (Year) SSN issued:    New Jersey (Before 1951)

and here is her husband's death                                                               
U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about Roger E. Gaylord
Name:    Roger E. Gaylord    
Last Residence:    92637  Fullerton, Orange, California
BORN:    29 Oct 1928
Died:    22 Apr 2005
State (Year) SSN issued:    Ohio (Before 1951)

Here is a possibility I wonder about the birth date since it is far before the marriage.
U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 about Robin M Gaylord
Name:    Robin M Gaylord
Birth Date:    17 Mar 1953
Phone Number:    567-6928
Address:    1 Bayside Village Pl Apt 112, San Francisco, CA, 94107-1460 (1989)
[3720 Scott St Apt 303, San Francisco, CA, 94123-1157 (1985)]
[160 Mallorca Way, San Francisco, CA, 94123-2175]

and with a married name                                                       
U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 2 about Robin Gaylord Powell
Name:    Robin Gaylord Powell
Birth Date:    17 Mar 1953
Address:    1 Bayside Village Pl Apt 112, San Francisco, CA, 94107-1460

a possiblity for Nancy Gaylord.  Newhall is about 80 km from Fullerton.   The year of birth matches the information on the photo.
U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 2 about Nancy A Gaylord
Name:    Nancy A Gaylord
Birth Date:    13 Dec 1956
Address:    25841 Wordsworth Ln, Newhall, CA, 91381-1305

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Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

Robin Gaylord Powell if on facebook.

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Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Carl F. Christensen arrived in the USA on the Hellig Olav on 21 Mar 1923.

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Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

A Carl F. Christensen married Margaret Newsom on 30 Jun 1933 in Brooklyn, New York.  Perhaps your Carl?

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Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

Here is the death of Carl F. Christensen.  The date of birth matches. 
U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about Carl Christensen
Name:    Carl Christensen    
SSN:    052-03-8532
Last Residence:    11554  East Meadow, Nassau, New York, USA
BORN:    2 Jun 1900
Died:    Jul 1973
State (Year) SSN issued:    New York (Before 1951)

Please excuse the many post but I am posting as I find information.

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Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Steffen,

I think this is the death of Carl F's wife   
U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about Margaret Christensen
Name:    Margaret Christensen    
SSN:    110-32-1204
Last Residence:    11554  East Meadow, Nassau, New York, USA
BORN:    30 Apr 1914
Died:    Mar 1987
State (Year) SSN issued:    New York (1957-1959)

Note they foth lived in East Meadow, Nassau County, New York.

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Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

I found Carl and Margaret Christensen in the 1940 census living in Brooklyn, New York with their 6 year old daughter Dorilis.

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Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Steffen,

I have posted a request for a lookup of the obituaries of Carl and Margaret.  I will let you know if I get any help.

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Paul

[Steffen Andersen]

Hej Poul


wow, lots af info. Wonder why I haven´t found that much yet. I have made lots of searches on Ancestry, without any luck.
Some of it I have seen, but was rather uncertain on the relavance.

I do know that my GGmother paid a visit in New York in 1925, her full name Ane Petrea Johanne Elisabeth Simonsen, but she returned to Horsens where she appears in census 1930 and some adress boks up till 1946, so I do believe that she died in Denmark.



I have sent a message to Robin on Facebook, hope we will have some luck there.

I am rather busy right now, I am away on work and will return monday evening and have only limited time to keep in touch.
When I return update the info file,

[Steffen Andersen]

Hej Poul

Received this from Jane

Wolff attended Brooklyn Technical High School 1934

I have attached page 11, showing Wolff E. CHRISTENSEN. The text says:
1426 East 8th Street
College Preparatory Course -- Interclass Basketball (1); G. A. Office Squad (2, 3, 4), BTHS, Mod. T; S.O.S (3); Stamp Club (2). -- N.Y.U.
"Who's afraid of the big bad Wolff?"


Apart from photo on the page I can't see wo got usefull info.