Erik Ernst Andresen and family

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

Hello. So this is my 2nd thread here. I was so amazed by how everyone were helpful, you made me all very happy.

This time I am looking for anchestry of the husband, my great grandfather Erik Ernst Andresen.
I managed to dig up some stuff myself, but nothing much.

Now, he was born 10.11.1903 and died 31.08.1951, throat cancer.
He married to Else Tagea Andresen 10.12.1933.

He had three children: Kirsten Andresen, Niels Ernst Andresen and Annelise Andresen.

Erik's siblings were:

1. Kristian Wenzel Andreasen (he was the only sibling that had the Andreas name, the priest wrote it incorrectly for Louis so after that they all changed their names, except Wenzel.
Wenzel was born 1899, dead June 1960.
2. Jørgen Louis Andresen, born 23. 01. 1902 and died 15. 01. 1987.
3. Erik himself
4. Else Andresen (now Thomsen), born 30.03.1906 and died 24.04.1974
5. Inger Andresen (now Dehm), born 27.10.1907 and died 25.01.1978
6. Thorvald Johannes Andresen, born 14.11.1909 and died 26.06.1944
7. Gerda Andresen, born 28.12.1912 and died 15.03.1928
8. Kirsten Louise Andresen (now Jørgensen), born 26.01.1917 and died 08.01.1984

----------------
Their parents were:
F. Andreas Ernst Andreasen, born 24. 08.1874 and died 12.06.1951
M. Catrine Bech/Beck (now Andreasen), born 20.02.1877 and died 08.06.1949.
-
Andreas Ernst had the following siblings:
-
1. Andreas was oldest, born in Agedrup.
2. Kirstine Andreasen (tante) ??, born 1876 and died 24.08.1962
3. Marie Andreasen (now Ernland), born 1872, was dead in 1962.
4. Hans Erik Andreasen, born 1879, was alive in 1962.
5. Kirsten - was born after 1880, still alive in 1930, married to Peder Hansen.
-
Catrine's known sibling was:
-
Magnus Bech, dates unknown, married to Johanne, had a son called Harry Bech, dead in 1991.
----------------

Andreas's parents:

F. Jørgen Andreasen, born 21.12.1840 in Agedrup (that is in Fyn?). death date unknown.
M. Anne (Ane?) Eriksen, born 1839. death date unknown

----------------

Catrine's parents:

Unknown.

------------------------------------------

This is all the information I have on them.
So any help is very much appreciated!
I really ought to get in contact with some of the descendants of Andreas and Catrine. We own one picture of them, printed on plain paper, it's a dreadful sight to see. How I'm longing for pictures of them.

Sincerely, Kristján.

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi once again Kristjan,

Here is what I have found so far, hopefully more to follow.

Erik Ernst Andresen born 10 Nov 1903, parents Andreas Ernst Andresen and Cathrine Bek, Skt Thomas, Sokkelund, København, opslag 135 nr 311.

Andreas Ernst Anderesen and Cathrine Bek married in Skt Knud, Odense, Odense on 13 Jul 1901, opslag 276 nr 23.

Andreas Emil Andresen was born 24 Aug 1874, parents Jørgen Anderesen and Ane Eriksen, Agedrup, Bjerge, Odense, opslag 13 nr 5.

Katrine Kristensen Bek was born 20 Feb 1877, parents Søren Christensen and Lovise Mogensen, Ryde, Lolland Sønder, Maribo, opslag 100 nr 4.

Sinderely, Paul

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

Hello, and thank you for these information! I am looking forward to see what you might find in the future! There is a name, Maren Jørgensen, which is connected to either Jørgen Andreasen or Ane Eriksen.
I decided to skip the Maren name because I was very unsure about who it might be, but most likely the parent of one of them.

By my simple google search, I found this:
http://www.virgo-fyn.dk/html/kirkehtm/aged40.html

"1874, 18 october, Andreas Ernst Andreasen, en søn, , Jørgen Andreasen [husmand], , Ane Eriksen, 34, vester kjærby"
This is the record from when he was baptised?

I find it interesting he is named "Andreas Emil Andresen" - was his middle name written wrongly in the churchbook?
Also I was wondering, you often write the surname as Andresen or Anderesen. Is that how it is written in the chruchbook?

Thanks again for the information you've gotten so far. I'll be looking forward to see if there's any progress tomorrow. I'm too tired right now to search for anything (not to mention I've been busy tracing the Norse side of my family)

Sincerely, Kristján.

[Inger Toudal]

Hi Kristján,

Agerup, Bjerge, Odense 1862-1880, opslag  13, No. 5. I read:

Andreas Ernst Andreasen, V Kjærby, born 24 Aug., baptized 18 Oct. 1874.
Parents: Husmand Jørgen Andreasen and wife Ane Eriksen.

Odense, Bjerge, Agedrup, Vester Kjærby, Agedrup sogn, et hus, 13, FT-1880, B0143
Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Position in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Jørgen Andreasen    39    Gift    husfader       her i sognet [Agedrup]
Anne Eriksen    40    Gift    hans hustru       Munkebo sogn
Andreas Ernst Andreasen    5    Ugift    deres børn       her i sognet [Agedrup]
Hans Erik Andreasen    under 1 aar    Ugift    deres børn       do [Agedrup]
Mette Marie Andreasen    7    Ugift    deres børn       Munkebo sogn
Anne Kirstine Andreasen    3    Ugift    deres børn       her i sognet [Agedrup]
Johanne Kirstine Pedersen    66    Enke(mand)    aftægskone       Munkebo sogn

Odense, Bjerge, Agedrup, Vester Kjærby, Agedrup sogn, hus, 4, FT-1890, B0285
Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Position in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Jørgen Andreasen    49    Gift    husfader    murer    Agedrup sogn
Ane Eriksen    50    Gift    husmoder       Munkebo sogn
Hans Erik Andreasen    10    Ugift    barn       Agedrup sogn
Kirsten Andreasen    8    Ugift    do [barn]       do [Agedrup sogn]


Ryde, Lolland Sønder, Maribo 1859-1888, opslag 100, No 4:

Katrine Kristensen Bek, born 20 Feb., baptized 25 Mar. 1877.
Parents: Indsidder, Teglværksarbejder Søren Christensen and wife Lovise Mogensen at Gammelgaard.

Maribo, Fuglse, Krønge, Krønge Sogn, Hus, 6, FT-1880, C0599
Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Position in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Søren Christensen    32    Gift    Indsidder, Dagleier i Agerbruget       ?? Sogn, Randers Amt
Lovise Christensen    33    Gift    Hans Hustru       Oster?? Sogn, Sverrig
Magnus Christensen Bech    4    Ugift    Deres Barn       Krønge Sogn
Katrine Christensen Bech    2    Ugift    Deres Barn       Ryde Sogn
Thyra Christensen Bech    1    Ugift    Deres Barn       Nysted Kjøbstad

Maribo, Fuglse, Krønge, Krønge, Hus, 34, FT-1890, B7838
Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Position in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Lovise Marie Mogensen    43    Gift    Husmoder       Sverrig *
Katrine Christensen    12    Ugift    Barn       Ryde
Thyra Christensen    11    Ugift    Barn       Nysted
Marie Nikoline Christensen    8    Ugift    Barn       Krønge
Martine Dagmar Christensen    8    Ugift    Barn       Krønge
Edvard Christensen    5    Ugift    Barn       Krønge
Thorvald Christensen    3    Ugift    Barn       Fuglse
* Lovise's husband may be in a parish, that's not yet indexed at http://ddd.dda.dk/dddform_uk.asp

Best regards,
Inger Toudal

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

Anne Eriksen was born on 25 Sep 1839, parents Erik Jensen and Mette Andersdatter, opslag 60 nr 17.  She died on 23 Feb 1927, Grøndal, Sokkelund, København, opslag 154 nr 3.

Sincerely,
Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

Here is Anne Eriksen and family in the 1845 census.

   
All persons in the household
Odense, Bjerge, Munkebo, Munkebo Bye, et Huus, 31, FT-1845, B4317

Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Erik Jensen    38    Gift       Matros    Her i sognet
Mette Andersdatter    42    Gift       Hans kone    Her i sognet
Anne Cathrine Sørensen    15    -       Sidstnævntes datter    Her i sognet
Jens Eriksen    10    -       Deres barn    Her i sognet
Dorthe Kirstine Eriksen    9    -       Deres barn    Her i sognet
Anders Eriksen    8    -       Deres barn    Her i sognet
Anne Eriksen    6    -       Deres barn    Her i sognet
Poul Christian Eriksen    4    -       Deres barn    Her i sognet
Karen Marie Eriksen    2    -       Deres barn    Her i sogn

Sincerely,
Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kirstjan,

Jørgen Andresen was born 21 December 1840 in Agedrup, Bjerge, Odense, opslag 12 nr 10, parents Andreas Tagesen and Marie Jørgensdatter.  He died in Agedrup on 15 Dec 1920, opslag 149 nr 4.

Here is the family in the 1845 census
All persons in the household
Odense, Bjerge, Agedrup, Vester Kjærbye, et Huus, 51, FT-1845, B4318

Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Andreas Tagesen    32    Gift       Huusmand, hørbereder    Her i sognet
Marie Jørgensdatter    38    Gift       Hans kone    Munkeboe sogn, Odense Amt
Kirsten Andreasen    13    Ugift       Deres barn    Her i sognet
Jørgen Andreasen    5    Ugift       Deres barn    Her i sognet
Anne Margrethe Andreasen    2    Ugift       Deres barn    Her i sognet
Karen Sophie Andreasen    1    Ugift       Deres barn    Her i sognet

Sincerely,
Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

First, where are you from?  And now what I have found.

Erik Jensen and Mette Andersdatter were married 10 Jan 1835 in Munkebo, opslag 127 nr 6.

Andreas Tagesen and Marie Jørgensdatter were married 9 Oct 1840 in Agedrup, opslag 79 nr 2.

Andreas Tagesen was born 13 Apr 1813 in Agedrup, parents Tage Jespersen and Kirstine Nielsdatter, opslag 365.

Here is Tage Jespersen and his family in the 1801 census
   
All persons in the household
Odense, Bjerge, Agedrup, Vester Kierbye Bye, , 4, FT-1801, B2987

Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Tage Jespersen    32    Gift    Deres søn    Faderens medhiælper    
Magrete Kirstine Nielsdatter    28    Gift    Sønne kone       
Niels Tagesen    4    -    Deres barn       
Christiane Tagesdatter    2    -    Deres barn       
Ebbe Larsen    21    Ugift    Karl    Landsoldat    
Peder Hansen    14    -    Dreng       
Johanne Nielsdatter    24    Ugift    Sønne kones søster       
Karen Nielsdatter    14    -    Sønne kones søster

and Tage in the 1787 census
Odense, Bjerge, Agedrup, Kjerbye bye, -, 26, FT-1787, B3587

Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Jesper Tagesen    65    Gift    hosbonde    bonde og gaardbeboer    
Karen Larsdatter    46    Gift    madmoder       
Tage Jespersen    18    Ugift    søn af 1st ægteskab       
Hans Christian Jespersen    4    Ugift    søn af 1st ægteskab       
Lars Nielsen    76    Gift    madmoderens fader    begge nyder ophold af gaarden    
Kirstine Lisbeth Andersdatter    70    Gift    hendes moder    begge nyder ophold af gaarden    
Hedevig Larsdatter    29    Ugift    madmoders søster    skræderske    
Anna Kirstine Larsdatter    10    Ugift    madmoders søster       
Maren Rasmusdatter    20    Ugift    tjeneste bud    pige i gaarden    
Ole Olsen    38    Gift    mand    indsidder og daglejer    
Gjertrud Gødskesdatter    36    Gift    hans kone       
Gödske Olsen    5    Ugift    søn af 1st ægteskab       
Christian Olsen    1    Ugift    søn af 1st ægteskab       
Anna Olesdatter    8    Ugift    søn af 1st ægteskab

Hopefully more to come

Sincerely,
Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

Tage Jespersen was born 10 Sep 1769 in Agedrup, father Jesper Tagesen, mother not listed, opslag 112.

Sincerely,
Paul

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

What a marvellous information.

I come from Iceland, hence why I'm so interested in genealogy (It's said every Icelander love's genealogy.. not true, but true in my case )
You might have heard of Islendingabók, where we can trace our ancestry back to the year 800 in some cases, but I had no information whatsoever on my ancestors in Denmark/Norway that I just had to find them.

Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Jesper Tagesen    65    Gift    hosbonde    bonde og gaardbeboer   
Karen Larsdatter    46    Gift    madmoder       
Tage Jespersen    18    Ugift    søn af 1st ægteskab       
Hans Christian Jespersen    4    Ugift    søn af 1st ægteskab       
Lars Nielsen    76    Gift    madmoderens fader    begge nyder ophold af gaarden   
Kirstine Lisbeth Andersdatter    70    Gift    hendes moder    begge nyder ophold af gaarden   
Hedevig Larsdatter    29    Ugift    madmoders søster    skræderske   
Anna Kirstine Larsdatter    10    Ugift    madmoders søster       
Maren Rasmusdatter    20    Ugift    tjeneste bud    pige i gaarden   
Ole Olsen    38    Gift    mand    indsidder og daglejer   
Gjertrud Gødskesdatter    36    Gift    hans kone       
Gödske Olsen    5    Ugift    søn af 1st ægteskab       
Christian Olsen    1    Ugift    søn af 1st ægteskab       
Anna Olesdatter    8    Ugift    søn af 1st ægteskab

^^From your last post, or almost last post:
Lars Nielsen & Kirstine Lisbeth Andersdatter = Karen Larsdatter's parents right? She's the madmoder, and they're said to be madmoderen's father and mother right?
Then there are siblings there. I love this.
Sincerely, Kristján.

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

I thought you were from Iceland because of the spelling of your name.  Here is some more information for your growing family tree.

Karen Larsdatter was born 1 Dec 1743 in Agedrup, opslag 58, father Laurs Nielsen, mother not named.

Laurs Nielsen and Kirstine Elisabeth Andersdatter were married in Agedrup on 30 Dec 1742, opslag 232.

Sincerely,
Paul
North Carolina, USA

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

Jesper Tagesen married Karen ??datter in Agedrup, Bjerge, Odense on 20 Jun 1766, opslag 240.  Perhaps some kind person will look at the record and see if they can make out her patrynym.  It is Larsdatter.

Sincerely,
Paul

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

Hi Paul / Kristjan

I read it as Karen Laursdatter.

/Ellen

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Tak Ellen.  Jesper Tagesen, age 87, was buried in Agedrup on 25 Sep 1805, opslag 220.

Sincerely,
Paul

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

Hi everyone.

One thing I dont understand:

"Tage Jespersen was born 10 Sep 1769 in Agedrup, father Jesper Tagesen, mother not listed, opslag 112."

1787 census I believe:

Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Jesper Tagesen    65    Gift    hosbonde    bonde og gaardbeboer    
Karen Larsdatter    46    Gift    madmoder      
Tage Jespersen    18    Ugift    søn af 1st ægteskab      
Hans Christian Jespersen    4    Ugift    søn af 1st ægteskab      
Lars Nielsen    76    Gift    madmoderens fader    begge nyder ophold af gaarden    
Kirstine Lisbeth Andersdatter    70    Gift    hendes moder    begge nyder ophold af gaarden    
etc....

So Karen Larsdatter is not Tage's blood related  mother? She's his step-mother?

then there is this in 1801 census I believe:

Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Tage Jespersen    32    Gift    Deres søn    Faderens medhiælper    
Magrete Kirstine Nielsdatter    28    Gift    Sønne kone      
Niels Tagesen    4    -    Deres barn      
Christiane Tagesdatter    2    -    Deres barn      
Ebbe Larsen    21    Ugift    Karl    Landsoldat    
Peder Hansen    14    -    Dreng      
Johanne Nielsdatter    24    Ugift    Sønne kones søster      
Karen Nielsdatter    14    -    Sønne kones søster

"Sønne kone" = 2nd wife ?? (assuming the previous wife died, if sønne means 2nd then, I can't find this in a dictionary), but Magrete Kirstine Nielsdatter is Andreas Tagesen's blood mother though?

Sincerely,
Kristján.

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

Tage Jespersen is the son of Jesper Tagesen and Karen Larsdatter.  Apparently the census taker just wanted to show this was their first marriage.

I will work on your second question and try to answer it.

Sincerely
Paul

[Inger Toudal]

When you've found Jesper Tagesen in the transcribed census at http://ddd.dda.dk/dddform_uk.asp click "Show all fields":

Source:    FT-1787
Name:    Jesper Tagesen
Age:    65
Position in household:    hosbonde   Marital status:    Gift
Occupation:    bonde og gaardbeboer
Parish:    Agedrup   District:    Bjerge
County:    Odense   Place name:    Kjerbye bye
Household-/family no:    26   Title no/address:    -
Marriage no:    1

Likewise for Karen Larsdatter:

Source:    FT-1787
Name:    Karen Larsdatter
Age:    46
Position in household:    madmoder   Marital status:    Gift
Parish:    Agedrup   District:    Bjerge
County:    Odense   Place name:    Kjerbye bye
Household-/family no:    26   Title no/address:    -
Marriage no:    1

The 1801 census for Jesper Tagesen's farm is shown out of context at ddd.dda.dk  There are two families at the farm:

Odense, Bjerge, Agedrup, Vester Kierbye Bye, , 3, FT-1801, B2987
Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      
Jesper Tagesen    78    Gift    Huusbonde    Fæstegaardmand    
Karen Larsdatter    59    Gift    Hans kone

Odense, Bjerge, Agedrup, Vester Kierbye Bye, , 4, FT-1801, B2987
Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      
Tage Jespersen    32    Gift    Deres søn    Faderens medhiælper    
Magrete Kirstine Nielsdatter    28    Gift    Sønne kone   [JT's son's wife]      
Niels Tagesen    4    -    Deres barn       
Christiane Tagesdatter    2    -    Deres barn       
Ebbe Larsen    21    Ugift    Karl    Landsoldat    
Peder Hansen    14    -    Dreng       
Johanne Nielsdatter    24    Ugift    Sønne kones søster   [JT's son's wife's sister]   
Karen Nielsdatter    14    -    Sønne kones søster

Maybe the website https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Denmark could be helpful in your search for your Danish ancestors.

In the Danish-English wordlist https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Danish_Word_List you'll find sønnekone 

Best regards,
Inger T.

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

Hi Inge.

This webside seems very helpful, I will have a look  at this once I have time, which should be soon.

My main goal is to reach up to all of Erik Ernst's great great grandfathers/mother, just like we did for Else Tagea's ancestors, with the great help from Ellen. I am still so thankful to her.
With the webside I could maybe understand more how this works.

Sincerely,
Kristján.

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

This is hard, not sure if I´ve located Marie Jørgensdatter's (housewife of Andreas Tagesen) parents... I might have. Got no luck on Catrine Christensen Bech's grandparents.

[Lise Østerberg Bahr]

Hi,.


Wenzel Andreasen, as I remember, once ? had a/some radio program(s) in DR (Danmarks Radio)

Regards
Lise Østerberg Bahr

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

Hi.

Yes, Andreas Ernst A. had the son Kristian Wensen Andreasen, who's son is Mogens Wenzel Andreasen, and his son is Henrik Wenzel Andreasen. Grandmother told me they work something with instruments.
Wouldn't surprised me that Mogens W. did something with the radio.
I tried googling Mogens Wensel Andreasen, he looks extreemely similar to his grandfather Andreas Ernst Andreasen.

Edit: Now that I google him again, he actually looks like Catrine in looks, but facial hair and hair is like Andreas's.

Sincerely, Kristján.

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

Here is Catrine Christeinsen Bek and parents in the 1880 census.

   
All persons in the household
Maribo, Fuglse, Krønge, Krønge Sogn, Hus, 6, FT-1880, C0599

Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Rasmus Henriksen    63    Gift    Husfader, Kreaturpasser       Ørtofte Sogn
Kristiane Andreasdatter    54    Gift    Hans Hustru       Krønge Sogn
Christian Jakobsen    40    Gift    Husfader, Leiehuusmand, Postbud       Maribo Kjøbstad
Christiane Larsen    43    Gift    Hans Hustru       Rødby Mark, Maribo Amt
Lars Poul Jakobsen    19    Ugift    Deres Barn       Rødby Mark, Maribo Amt
Christine Pouline Jakobsen    10    Ugift    Deres Barn       Krønge Sogn
Jens Christian Jakobsen    7    Ugift    Deres Barn       Krønge Sogn
Rasmus Jakobsen    3    Ugift    Deres Barn       Krønge Sogn
Carl Jakobsen    1    Ugift    Deres Barn       Krønge Sogn
Niels Madsen    67    Separeret    Tømmermand, Aftægtsmand       Hillested Sogn,
Søren Christensen    32    Gift    Indsider, Dagleier i Agerbruget       ?? Sogn, Randers Amt
Lovirse Christen    33    Gift    Hans Hustru       Oster?? Sogn, Sverrig
Magnus Christensen Bech    4    Ugift    Deres Barn       Krønge Sogn
Katrine Christensen Bech    2    Ugift    Deres Barn       Ryde Sogn
Thyra Christensen Bech    1    Ugift    Deres Barn       Nysted Kjøbstad
Hans Peder Frederiksen    41    Gift    Huusfader - Træarbeider       Søllested Sogn
Dorthe Pedersen    34    Gift    Hans Hustru       Krønge Sogn
Johannes Frederiksen    8    Ugift    Deres Barn       Krønge Sogn
Carl Georg Frederiksen    5    Ugift    Deres Barn       Krønge Sogn
Hansine Bolette Frederiksen    3    Ugift    Deres Barn       Krønge Sogn
Anna Margrethe Madsen    under 1 aar    Ugift    Pleiebarn       Krønge Sogn

I will try to find out about them looking at church records.  Now we have some clues.

Sincerely,
Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

Here is the family in the 1890 census.  Notice that Søren Christensen is not with them but he is in the Tillægsliste B at the address.  The 1880 census is opslag 9.  Perhaps someone else can figure out where Søren was born.  The 1890 census is opslag 10, 11, and 12.

All persons in the household
Maribo, Fuglse, Krønge, Krønge, Hus, 34, FT-1890, B7838

Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Anders Nielsen    24    Gift    Husfader    Arbejdsmand    Krønge Sogn, Søholt
Bodil Margrethe Mortensen    22    Gift    Husmoder       Vesterborg Sogn, Bønned By
Johanne Augusta Nielsen    2    Ugift    Datter       Holeby By og Sogn
Carl Frederik Nielsen    1    Ugift    Søn       Krønge Sogn og By
Lovise Marie Mogensen    43    Gift    Husmoder       Sverrig
Katrine Christensen    12    Ugift    Barn       Ryde
Thyra Christensen    11    Ugift    Barn       Nysted
Marie Nikoline Christensen    8    Ugift    Barn       Krønge
Martine Dagmar Christensen    8    Ugift    Barn       Krønge
Edvard Christensen    5    Ugift    Barn       Krønge
Thorvald Christensen    3    Ugift    Barn       Fuglse

Sincerely,
Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

I went through the 1901 census for Krønge and the family was not listed.  They must have moved.

Sincerely,
Paul

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

Hi Paul. Thanks for your help!

I tried looking at the census myself, I've started to get more familiar with this, but I can not handle this handwriting

You said you did not know where Søren was born? (if I understood correctly), but wouldn't that be Randers Amt.? I can not see anything specific though in the census about his birth location.

This does mean, if one is really ambitious to find him, one would have to look in every churchbook from Randers Amt. around 1840....?

Also, could there be a reason to why the children have the Bech name but parents do not?

Sincerely, Kristján.

[Inger Toudal]

It won't be easy to find Søren Christensen and Louise Magnidotter. I found her Swedish patronym at the birth of Thorvald Christensen Beck 23 Mar. 1886 (Fuglse, Fuglse, Maribo 1879-1891, opslag 42, No 8).
Thorvald was baptized in Olstrup church (Olstrup, Fuglse, Maribo 1871-1886, opslag 18), as the parents had moved to Assenbølle before the baptism.

Søren and Louise were married before the birth of Magnus Christensen Beck 5 Aug. 1875 (Krønge, Fuglse, Maribo 1870-1891, opslag 10, No 8).

The 1890 census gives neither age nor birth place for Søren, and the place where he is staying temporarily, is unknown:

Source:    FT-1890
Name:    Søren Christensen   Sex:    M
Position in household:    Husfader   Marital status:    Gift
Occupation:    Teilverksarb.
Parish:    Krønge   District:    Fuglse
County:    Maribo   Place name:    Krønge
Religion:    udbekjent
Comments:    Midlertidige opholdssted: udbekjent / Er betegnet: Husleier

That leaves us, so far, with the 1880 census: AO, Folketællinger, Landsogn, 1880, Krønge, opslag 9. I cannot make sense of the birth places mentioned for Søren (except Randers Amt) and Louise (except Sverige). He should be born around 1847, she around 1846.

Katrine is working as a servant girl in Næsbyhoved Broby parish at the census 1 Feb. 1901:

Odense, Odense, Næsbyhoved Broby, Næsbyhoved Broby, 9g, 18, FT-1901, C4185
Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Lars Sørensen    4 jul 1852    Gift    Husfader    Gaardejer    Drigstrup Odense
Vilhelmine Sørensen f. Christiansen    3 apr 1868    Gift    Husmoder       Herrested Svendborg
Vaborg Kirstine Sørensen    16 apr 1888    Ugift    Barn       Næsbyhoved Broby Odense
Ingeborg Sørensen    25 jul 1890    Ugift    Barn       Næsbyhoved Broby Odense
Anna Louise Sørensen    14 maj 1896    Ugift    Barn       Næsbyhoved Broby Odense
Kjersten Johanne Sørensen    29 sep 1900    Ugift    Barn       Næsbyhoved Broby Odense
Johannes Davisen    31 dec 1880    Ugift    Tjenstetyende       Asperup Odense
Hans P. Julius Kristensen    14 jul 1885    Ugift    Tjenstetyende       Odense Odense
Katrine Kristensen Bek    20 feb 1877    Ugift    Tjenstetyende       Ryde Maribo
Anna Johanne Madsen    10 aug 1884    Ugift    Tjenstetyende       Lumby Odense

Andreas and their son are living with his parents:

Odense, Bjerge, Agedrup, Vester Kærby, 39b, 37, FT-1901, C6550
Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Pos. in household:      Occupation:      Birth place:
Jørgen Andersen    21. December 1840    Gift    Husfader    Murer, Husejer    Agedrup S, Odense A
Anna Eriksen    2. Oktober 1839    Gift    Husmoder       Munkebo S, Odense A
Andreas Ernst Andersen    24. August 1874    Ugift    Barn    Murersvend    Agedrup S, Odense
Hans Erik Andreasen    11. Juni 1879    Ugift    Barn    Murersvend    Agedrup S, Odense
Kristian Venzel Andreasen    29. Marts 1899    Ugift    Slægtning       Agedrup S, Odense

Kristian Wenzel was born 29 Mar. 1899 (Agedrup, Bjerge, Odense 1892-1920, opslag 12, No 4).

At Andreas' and Katrine's marriage in July 1901, there is no info about the parents' place of residence in 1901.

As for the name Bek or Beck, it could have its origin in either the father's or the mother's family.

I found this police register card for Andreas and Katrine:

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=1501883&searchname=polit_adv

From 1903 to 1921 the family lived in Frederiksberg, so no adresses on the card from that period.

The family in the 1921 census: AO, Folketællinger, 1921, København, Pomonavej [No 14], opslag 21-22.

Andreas owns the house, and his sister Ane Kirstine (in Cph since 1903) and his mother Anne (in Cph since 1921)
are living with the family.

Best regards,
Inger T.

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

Sorry for being away.
Hi Inge.

It looks like I've got a lot of work ahead of me. Any idea where one could access the Swedish church records? Finding Louise will be very hard I guess.

I have a lot of thinking ahead, but first must sort out some stuff with school before I can really dig in the church records.

Thank you for your help!
I'll post if I find anything, if you'll be interested.

Sincerely, Kristján.