Else Tagea Jensen and family.

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

Hello.
Well, I am new here and basically have no idea where to start!

I am looking for the ancestors of my great grandmother, Else Tagea Jensen (later Andresen).

She was born 21. April 1912 and died 10. march 1983.
Born, lived and died in København.
She married Erik Ernst Andresen. Is it possible to find out the date?

Her parents were Christian Jensen and Caroline Mathilde Jensen (no idea what her previous name was.)
I have no idea when Christian and Caroline were born nor when they died, my grandmother can not remember it at all. I am in a way helping her tracing ancestors hopefully few generations back, but I can't seem to find anything about them at all.
Else Tagea had three children, her eldest, Kirsten Andresen b. 1936 is my grandmother. (moved to Iceland in 1958)

Christian's and Caroline's first child is estimated to be born in 1903.

Their children were: Alex, Christian, Carl Anton, Esther, Henny, Zenia and Karen. Karen was born 26. September 1910, death date unsure. Alex and Christian both moved to the United states.

Christian Jensen was born in Asnes, and Caroline Mathilde was born in Åleborg. This is all the information I have about Else's parents.
All I ask is for some help to trace back my ancestry, as I have no idea where to start and come to think of it, no idea at all how to do it!

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Also, in rare case, if any of you are a descendant of them, feel free to PM me!

Sincerely, Kristjan.

[John Wrenholt]

This register has a Karen with the correct birthday.  Could it be the right family?

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2414255

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

John found the correct family.  Else Tagea Jensen was born 21 Apr 1912, parents Niels Christian Zakarias Jensen and Oline Martine Pedersen, Brønshøj, Sokkelund, København opslag 140 nr 20.  The family can be found living at Pomonavej 3, which Niels owned, in the 1921 census, opslag 5, in the 1925 census, opslag 9, and in the 1930 census, opslag 5.

Their children are
  Carlo Alex born 19 Sep 1901
  Carl Anton Ellum born 21 Oct 1902
  Niels Christian born 16 Dec 1903
  Esther Maud Indmalia born 8 Apr 1905
  Xenia Marie born 5 May 1906
  Henny Dagmar born 21 Mar 1908
  Karen born 26 Sep 1910

Niels and Oline were married 26 Apr 1900 in Nørre Sundby, Kær, Ålborg, opslag 73 nr 8.   According to that record Niels Christian Zacharias Jensen was born in Asnæs on 20 Aug 1872, parents Nels Jensen and Johanne Marie Jensen.

Oline Martine Pedersen was born 5 Jul 1873 in Sulsted, Kær, Ålborg, opslag 104 nr 12, parents Carl Anton Pedersen and Imalia Olsen.

I will try to find more tomorrow but now it is bed time.

Sincerely,
Paul

[John Wrenholt]

Niels in the 1890 census:

Holbæk, Ods, Asnæs, Asnæs, Huus, 25, FT-1890, C5340

Name:   Age:   Marital status:   Pos. in household:   Occupation:   Birth place:
Niels Jensen    47   Gift   Husfader    Jordbruger   Føllensløv
Johanne Marie Jensdatter    45   Gift   Husmoder    Do [Jordbruger]   Faarevejle
Niels Kristjan Zakarias Jensen    17   Ugift   Barn    Do [Jordbruger]   Asnæs

[Ralph Rasmussen]

Niels Jensen's baptism in one version of the parish record, image 48 #12:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-33485-9735-94?cc=2078555&wc=M943-TYX:2013130757

Access to parish registers at Statens Arkiver:

https://www.sa.dk/content/dk/ao-forside/find_kirkeboger

There, under Holbæk amt, Ods herred, Asnæs sogn the register covers 1852-1887, and the 'opslag' is 45, child #14.

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

These are great answers, I am very thankful!
I will be looking forward to see if you will help me more, are are all so kind.
I will of course be personally trying to find something.

No wonder I could never find anything... Caroline... Oline. I guess my grandmother did not remember then all too well. Oline apparently was a bit sick in her head after her 'changing age', often talked to herself.
Niels Christian Zakarias, beautiful name. That's why my grandmother's brother was called Niels then.

These information are great so far! Is there a way to find out when they died? Atleast Oline/Christian? (It'll take time to get used to her correct name )

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

The records of the deaths and marriages of the girls are probably in the Brønshøj church records since Niels owned a house in that parish.  I will be offline today but will look for more this evening.

Sincerely,
Paul

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

Hi Kristjan

The confirmation of the children are in the churchbook until 1920 (Henny who should be confirmated in 1923 and the following children is not in Brønshøj).

Confirmation:
Kirkebog. Brønshøj, Sokkelund, København. 1911-1930. Opslag 35.
10. Oktober 1915 #23.
Karlo Alex Jensen.
Født: 19. sep. 1901
Døbt: 17. nov 1901 Sct. Buldophi Kirke, Aalborg
Tømrer N.C. Jensen og hustru Oline Martine f. Petersen, Arnevej 23.

Kirkebog. Brønshøj, Sokkelund, København. 1911-1930. Opslag 40.
1.Oktober 1916 # 45.
Karl Anton Ellum Jensen.
Født: 21. okt. 1902
Døbt: 14. jun 1903 Simeons Sogn
Tømrer Niels Chr. Zakarias Jensen og hustru Oline Martine f. Pedersen, Arnesvej 23, st.

Kirkebog. Brønshøj, Sokkelund, København. 1911-1930. Opslag 48.
7.april 1918 #11
Niels Christian Jensen
Født: 16. dec. 1903
Døbt: 7. aug. 1904 Simeons Sogn
Tømrer Niels Christian Zakarias Jensen og hustr, Oline Martine f. Pedersen, Arnesvej 23, 1.

Kirkebog. Brønshøj, Sokkelund, København. 1911-1930. Opslag 235.
27.april 1919
Ester Maud Indmalia Jensen
Født: 08. april 1905
Døbt: 31. dec. 1905 Brønshøj
Tømrer Niels Christian Zakarias Jensen og hstr. Oline Martine f. Petersen, Arnesvej 23.

Kirkebog. Brønshøj, Sokkelund, København. 1911-1930. Opslag 247.
10.oktober 1920 #15
Xenia Marie Jensen
Født: 05. maj 1906
Døbt: 19. aug. 1906 Brønshøj
Tømrer Niels Christian Zacharias Jensen og hustr. Oline Martine f. Petersen, Pomonavej 3.

/ellen

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

In the Census for 1925 the still lives on Pomonavej (Page 9):
Jensen, Niels Christian Zakarias , M, 72 20/8, Asnæs, Holbæk, G, Husfader, Tømrersvend
Jensen, Oline Martine, K, 73 5/7 Sulsted, Hjørring, G, Husmoder,
Jensen, Carl Anton Ellum, M, 02 21/9, København, U, Søn, Vognmand
Jensen, Esther Maud Immalia, K, 05 8/4, København, U, Datter, Husassistent
Jensen, Xenia Marie, K, 06 5/5, København, U, Datter, Ekspeditrice
Jensen, Henny Dagmar, K, 08 21/3, København, U, Datter, Ekspeditriceelev
Jensen, Karen, K, 09 26/9, København, U, Datter, Husassistent
Jensen, Else Tagea, K, 12 21/4, København, U, Datter, Barn

/Ellen

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

The confirmations of the last 3 girls are in Grøndal Churchrecords. Apparently, the Parish was established in 1922 and Pomonavej is in that Parish.

Kirkebog. Grøndal, Sokkelund, København. 1922-1933. Opslag 104.
25.april 1922 #3
Jensen, Henny Dagmar
Født: 21. marts 1908
Døbt: 14. marts 1909 Brønshøj Kirke
Tømrer Niels Christian Zakarias Jensen og Hustru Oline Martine f. Pedersen. Pomonavej 3.


Kirkebog. Grøndal, Sokkelund, København. 1922-1933. Opslag 109.
30.september 1923 #5
Jensen, Karen
Født: 26. september 1909
Døbt: 13. februar 1910 Brønshøj Kirke
Tømrer Niels Christian Zakarias Jensen og Hustru Oline Martine f. Pedersen. Pomonavej 3.


Kirkebog. Grøndal, Sokkelund, København. 1922-1933. Opslag 123.
24.oktober 1926 #9
Jensen, Else Tagea
Født: 21. april 1912
Døbt: 24. marts 1913 Brønshøj Kirke
Tømrer Niels Christian Zakarias Jensen og Hustru Oline Martine f. Pedersen. Pomonavej 3.

/ellen

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

Death of Niels Christian:
Kirkebog. Grøndal, Sokkelund, København. 1941-1957. Opslag 120.
1954 #38.
Død: 9. november 1954, Morbærvej 10
Niels Christian Zakarias Jensen
Fhv. Tømrersvend, født 20. August 1872 I Asnæs Sogn. Søn af husejer Niels Jensen og hstr. Johanne Marie Jensen.
Afd. Ægtefælle Oline Martine Pedersen. Viet i Nørresundby K. 26. 4. 1900.
Morbærvej 10.
82 Aar.

Death of Oline Martine:
Kirkebog. Grøndal, Sokkelund, København. 1941-1957. Opslag 242.
1950 #37.
Død: 6. August 1950 Bispebjerg Hospital
Begravet: 11. August 1950 Bispebjerg Kirkegaard
Oline Martine Jensen f. Pedersen
Født 5.juli 1873 Sulsted Sogn, Aalborg amt. Datter af Restauratør Anton Pedersen og hstr. Emalia Olesen.
Efterlev. Ægtefælle fhv. tømrer Niels Christian Zacharias Jensen, Morbærvej 10.
77 aar.


/Ellen

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

Fantastic! I am so so very grateful for this everyone. Ellen, thank you for their dates of death, so good to know, my mormor will be pleased. It amazes me how different the spellings of the name sometimes are.
Yep, lived in Morbærvej 10, that fits.

No wonder why Else knew Erik (my great grandfather, her husband) because he lived on Pomonavej 2. He was the son of Andreas Ernst Andreasen and Catrine Andreasen (f. Bech).

I belive Carlo Alex and Niels Christian, the son, both moved to the United States. One was a Architect in New York, and other one built plains or something like that.

What about the parents of Christian (father, he was always called Christian) and Oline Martine? Can they be easily found? Would it be possible to find a picture of them on the internet?

[John Wrenholt]

Erik Ernst Andresen and Else Tagea Jensen were married 10 Dec, 1933.  You can find their marriage recored in the church book 1922-1936 Grøndal ops 144.

Kirsten Andresen was born 23 Sep 1936 and christened 8 Nov 1936.  It is recorded in 1929-1937 Grøndal ops 368.

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

From the death record of Niels Christian Zakarias Jensen, we know his is born 20. August 1872 i Asnæs Sogn as the son of husejer Niels Jensen and Johanne Marie Jensen.

Kirkebog. Asnæs, Ods, Holbæk. 1852-1887.
Opslag 45.
1872 # 14.
Født: 20. August
Niels Christian Zacharias Jensen
Døbt: 20. Oktober I kirken
Parents: Husejer Niels Jensen og hustru Johanne Marie Jensen i Asnæs
Faddere: Husejer Jens Olsens Kone Stine af Asnæs, Husejer J. Olsen og Tavs Poul Jensen ad Asnæs og husmand Chr, Jensen i Viig.

Census of 1880:
Holbæk, Ods, Asnæs, Asnæs by og sogn, Et hus, 11, FT-1880, C6880
Niels Jensen 39 Gift Husejer og Murer  Folleslev Sogn Holbæk Amt 
Johanne Marie Jensen 35 Gift hans Hustru  Faareveile Sogn Holbæk Amt 
Jens Peter Zakarias Jensen 11 Ugift deres Barn  Faareveile Sogn Holbæk Amt 
Niels Kristian Zakarias Jensen 7 Ugift deres Barn  Her i Sognet  
Lars Henrik Zakarias Jensen 6 Ugift deres Barn  Her i Sognet 
Ane Kirstine Jensen 4 Ugift deres Barn  Her i Sognet 

Christian's father is born in Føllenslev.
Here is his father in the census of 1850 with his parents:

Holbæk, Skippinge, Føllenslev, Havnsø, 1 hus, 83, FT-1850, C8655
Jens Zachariasen 58 Gift  Husmand og daglejer, København 
Ane Hansdatter 55 Gift  Hans Hustru Vallekilde, Holbæk Amt 
Niels Jensen 9 Ugift  Deres barn Her i Sognet 

And that where the middlename Zacharias came from.

His brother's birth:
Kirkebog. Fårevejle, Ods, Holbæk. 1847-1880. Opslag 60.
1868 #24.
Født: 23. November.
Døbt: 15. december. I kirken 7. februar 1869.
Jens Peder Zakarias Jensen
Forældre:  Indsidder Niels Jensen og hustru Johanne Marie Jensen i Stubberup,
Faddere: Husm. Hans Nielsen, Gdm. Niels Jensen, Inds. Niels Jensen og Pige Sidsel Jensen, alle af Stubberup.
Moderens alder: 24 aar

Notice, that the withnesses at the christening lives in Stubberup.

Christian's mother in the Census 1850:
Holbæk, Ods, Faarevejle, Stubberup By, en Gaard, 54, FT-1850, C5366
Jens Nielsen 32 Gift  Gaardmand her i Sognet 
Bodel Larsdatter 27 Gift  hans Kone Dito[her i Sognet] 
Johanne Marie Jensen 6 Ugift  deres Børn Dito[her i Sognet]  
Niels Peder Jensen 1 Ugift  deres Børn Dito[her i Sognet] 
Anders Larsen 19 Ugift  Tjenestefolk Dito[her i Sognet] 
Ane Sophie Eriksdatter 20 Ugift  Tjenestefolk Dito[her i Sognet] 
Johanne Jensdatter 67 Enke  Aftægtskone Dito[her i Sognet] 

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

Christian's father – Census 1845:
Jens Zachariasen 53 Gift  Huusmand og Dagleier Kjøbenhavn 
Ane Hansdatter 51 Gift  Hans kone Vallekilde , Holb.A 
Ane Jensdatter 14 -  Deres Barn Her i Sognet 
Niels Jensen 4 -  Deres Barn Her i Sognet 

Christian's father's parents in Census 1840:
Holbæk, Skippinge, Føllenslev, Havnsøe, Et Huus, 9, FT-1840, C6889
Jens Zachariasen 49 Gift  Huusmand og Dagleier 
Ane Hansdatter 45 Gift  Hans kone 
Ane Jensdatter 9 Ugift  Deres datter

Christian's father's parents in Census 1834:
Holbæk, Skippinge, Føllenslev, Havnsøe, et Huus, 99, FT-1834, C1214
Jens Zachariasen 41 Gift  Huusmand og Dagleier 
Ane Hans Datter 39 Gift  hans Kone, Væver 
Johanne Jens Datter 12 Ugift  deres Børn 
Ane Jens Datter 3 Ugift  deres Børn

Christian's father's father and grandparents in 1801-Census
Holbæk, Skippinge, Føllenslev, Felleslev Bye, , 41, FT-1801, B8241
Zacharias Svitzrybel?? 42 Gift Mand Farende matros paa Grønland  
Karen Henrichsdatter 40 Gift Hans koene   
Jens Zachariasen 10 Ugift Deres børn   
Margrethe Zachariasdatter 3 Ugift Deres børn

Notice! Christian's grandfather was sailing to Greenland. His has most likely also visited Iceland

/Ellen

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

Christian's mother's father in census 1845:
Holbæk, Ods, Faarevejle, Stubberup Bye, en Gaard, 54, FT-1845, C3374
Johanne Jensdatter 62 Enke  Gaardmandskone Asnæs Sogn, Holbeks Amt 
Jens Nielsen 27 Gift  hendes Sønner Her i Sognet [ Faareveile ] 
Hans Nielsen 23 Gift  hendes Sønner Do [ her i Sognet ] [ Faareveile ] 
Karen Nielsdatter 25 Gift  hans Kone Do [ her i Sognet ] [ Faareveile ] 
Niels Peder Hansen 4 -  deres Barn Do [ her i Sognet ] [ Faareveile ] 
Jørgen Pedersen 23 Ugift  Tjenestefolk Do [ her i Sognet ] [ Faareveile ] 
Karen Jensdatter 24 Ugift  Tjenestefolk Do [ her i Sognet ] [ Faareveile ]

Census 1840:
Holbæk, Ods, Faarevejle, Stubberup Bye, en Gaard, 2, FT-1840, C1205
Johanne Jensdatter 56 Enke  Gaardmands Enke 
Jens Nielsen 22 Ugift  hendes Sønner 
Hans Nielsen 18 Ugift  hendes Sønner 
Maren Jensdatter 26 Ugift  Tjenestefolk 
Lisbet Povelsdatter 21 Ugift  Tjenestefolk

Census 1834:
Holbæk, Ods, Faarevejle, Stubberup Bye, en Gaard, 2, FT-1834, C0662
Johanne Jensdatter 50 Enke  Gaardfæsterinde 
Lars 24 Ugift  hendes Børn 
Kirsten 19 Ugift  hendes Børn 
Jens 16 Ugift  hendes Børn 
Hans 12 Ugift  hendes Børn 
Lars Mortensen 28 Ugift  Tjenestefolk 
Ane Madsdatter 22 Ugift  Tjenestefolk

Christian's mother's father is born in Fårevejle, Ods, Holbæk
2. Maj 1818 Jens Nielsen
Forældre: Gdmd. i Stubberup Niels Christensen og hustru Johanne Jensdatter

Christian's mother's mother in Census 1845:
Holbæk, Ods, Faarevejle, Kaarup, en Gaard, 10, FT-1845, C3374
Bodil Larsdatter 22 Gift tjener hos Faderen Her i Sognet [ Faareveile ] 
Ane Marie Larsdatter 19 Ugift  tjener hos Faderen Do [ her i Sognet ] [ Faareveile ] 
Johane Marie Jensdatter 1 -  en Datterdater !! Do [ her i Sognet ] [ Faareveile ] 

Christian's mother's mother in census 1834:
Holbæk, Ods, Faarevejle, Kaarup Bye, en Gaard, 5, FT-1834, C0662
Lars Hansen 53 Gift  Gaardmand 
Sidse Larsdatter 48 Gift  hans Hustru 
Else 22 Ugift  deres Børn 
Hans 20 Ugift  deres Børn 
Karen 15 Ugift  deres Børn 
Niels 13 Ugift  deres Børn 
Bodil 11 Ugift  deres Børn 
Ane Marie 8 Ugift  deres Børn 
Maren Pedersdatter 60 Ugift  Afsindig, Almisselem

This might be Christian's mother's mother's father in census 1801:
Holbæk, Ods, Faarevejle, Ordrup Bye, , 108, FT-1801, B8019
Hans Larsen 50 Gift Huusbonde Bonde og gaardmand 
Bodil Jensdatter 48 Gift Hans kone   
Lars Hansen 21 Ugift Deres børn   
Jens Hansen 8 Ugift Deres børn   
Johanne Katrine Hansdatter 19 Ugift Deres børn   
Maren Hansdatter 15 Ugift Deres børn   
Rasmus Hansen 13 Ugift Tienestedreng

And this might be Christian's mother's mother's mother in census 1801:
Holbæk, Ods, Faarevejle, Faareveile Bye, , 27, FT-1801, B8019
gl. Lars Pedersen 49 Gift Mand Medforpagter af præstegaarden 
Karen Rasmusdatter 43 Gift Hans kone   
Hans Larsen 20 Ugift Deres børn   
Maren Larsdatter 22 Ugift Deres børn   
Peder Larsen 10 Ugift Deres børn   
Sidse Larsdatter 7 Ugift Deres børn      

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

From Martine's death record we know:
Oline Martine Jensen f. Pedersen
Født 5.juli 1873 Sulsted Sogn, Aalborg amt.
Datter af Restauratør Anton Pedersen og hstr. Emalia Olesen.

Martine in the census 1890:
Aalborg, Kær, Nørresundby Købstad, Nørresundby, , 3, FT-1890, C4375
Carl Anton Petersen 44 Gift Husfader Værtshusholder Ulsted, Aalborg Amt 
Emmalie Petersen 44 Gift Husmoder  Tylstrup, Aalborg Amt 
Oline Martine Petersen 16 Ugift Barn  Vestbjerg, Kær, Aalborg 
Caroline Marie Petersen 12 Ugift Barn  Vestbjerg, Kær, Aalborg 
Gerda Dagmar Petersen 9 Ugift Barn  Vestbjerg, Kær, Aalborg 
Astrid Katrine Petersen 3 Ugift Barn  Nørresundby, Aalborg Amt 

Martine in the census 1880:
Aalborg, Kær, Sulsted, Vestbjerg By, et Hus, 7, FT-1880, C4309
Karl Anton Pedersen 34 Gift Husfader, Husmand, Høker  Ulsted Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Eumalia Olsen 34 Gift Husfaderens Hustru  Ajstrup Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Oline Martine Pedersen 6 Ugift deres Børn  Her i Sognet 
Algine Pedersen 4 Ugift deres Børn  Her i Sognet 
Karoline Alma Pedersen 2 Ugift deres Børn  Her i Sognet 
Johanne Rasmussen 16 Ugift Tjenestepige  Her i Sognet 

Martine's father, Carl Anton Pederse, was born i Ulsted on August 11, 1845.
Parents:
Moder Pigen Mariane Hansdatter, indsidderske i Ulsted,
Udlagt barnefader Peter Christian Jensen, Ungkarl, tjenende i Ulsted.

Carl Anton's Mother in Census 1845.
Aalborg, Kær, Ulsted, Ulsted, et hus, 13, FT-1845, A0336
Lars Christensen 69 enke  Husmand, lever af sin jordlod. Dronninglund sogn, Hjørring amt. 
Mariane Hansdatter 28 ugift  Indsidder, lever af at spinde. Brønderslev sogn, Hjørring amt.  

Carl Anton's mother with her parents in Census 1834:
Hjørring, Børglum, Vester Brønderslev, Vesterbrønderslev Bye, en Gaard, 26, FT-1834, C9080
Hans Christensen Vestergaard 51 Gift  Gaardmand 
Else Marie Christensdatter 40 Gift  hans Kone 
Christen Hansen 12 Ugift  deres Børn 
Thomas Hansen 9 Ugift  deres Børn 
Anders Christjan Hansen 7 Ugift  deres Børn 
Jens Hansen 6 Ugift  deres Børn 
Jens Christjan Hansen 2 Ugift  deres Børn 
Mariane Hansdatter 16 Ugift  deres Børn 
Maren Hansdatter 14 Ugift  deres Børn 
Christen Mortensen 74 Enkemand  Inderste 
Jens Christjan Christensen 29 Gift  Daglejer 
Mette Marie Hansdatter 30 Gift  hans Kone 
Christen Jensen 3 Ugift  deres Børn 
Niels Christjan Jensen 1 Ugift  deres Børn

Carl Anton's Father in Census 1845:
Aalborg, Kær, Ulsted, Ulsted, en gaard, 66, FT-1845, A0336
Niels Christensen 34 ugift  Gaardmand. her i sognet. 
Peter Christian Jensen 24 ugift  Tjenestekarl. her i sognet. 
Maren Jensdatter 23 ugift  Tjenestepige. Hammer sogn, Aalborg amt. 
Christen Nielsen 73 gift  Aftægtsmand, forsørges af husfaderen. Øster Hassing sogn, Aalborg amt. 
Johanne Jensdatter 77 gift  hans kone. Hammer sogn, Aalborg amt. 

Carl Anton's Father in census 1834:
Aalborg, Kær, Ulsted, Ulsted sogn, Vindelborg, en gård, 99, FT-1834, A0334
Hans Anders Jepsen 30 Ugift  Gårdmand. 
Jeppe Simonsen 53 Enke  Forsørges af husfaderen. 
Mette Kirstine Jensdatter 20 Ugift  Tjenestepige. 
Peder Christian Jensen 13 Ugift  Tjenestedreng. 

Martine's mother with her parents in census 1855:
Aalborg, Kær, Ajstrup, Tylstrup skoledistrikt, Tylstrup, en Gaard, 87, FT-1855, C4656
Ole Jensen 49 Gift Gaardmand, Husfader  Aistrup Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Mariane Nielsdatter 47 Gift hans Kone  Hallund Sogn, Hjørring Amt 
Ane Marie Olesdatter 18 Ugift deres Børn  Aistrup Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Christian Julius Olesen 12 Ugift deres Børn  Aistrup Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Eumalia Olesdatter 10 Ugift deres Børn  Aistrup Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Jørgen Peter Olesen 8 Ugift deres Børn  Aistrup Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Ane Cathrine Olesdatter 6 Ugift deres Børn  Aistrup Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Christen Olesen 1 Ugift deres Børn  Aistrup Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Karen Terkelsdatter 37 Ugift Sypige  Hallund Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Tomine Hansdatter 14 Ugift hendes Datter  Aistrup Sogn, Aalborg Amt 

Martine's mother's father in census 1834:
Aalborg, Kær, Ajstrup, Tylstrup, en Grd., 22, Ft 1834, A8375
Ane Marie Olesdatter 58 Enke  Gaardmands Enke. 
Ole Jensen 28 Ugift  hendes Søn.

[Ralph Rasmussen]

The Zacharias in the 1801 census with the uncertain last name was born about 1760.  I thought the last name might be legible in the burial record.  That is not the case.  What is almost certainly his burial is in the 1735-1815 Føllenslev parish register, opslag 113.  but he is simply Zacharias there.

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

I see, how odd. Does that mean he might be a foreigner? (The last name)
I tried finding the origin of the name Zakarias, got a hungarian football player, some danish politician born 1844, so I do not know...
Does it say he is born in Denmark?

Edit:

Did some simple google reseach, he as born in about 1759-1760, father of Jens Zachariasen and Margrethe Svitzrybel, so looks like she took his last name..
http://www.geni.com/people/Jens-Zacariasen/6000000016159873861?through=6000000016159817849
I do not know how well one can trust this, but it's fun to look through.

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

Zacharias was a prophet in the Bibel.
I tried to look on the original page in the Census.
But it is very hard to read - maybe others would try?

It should be noted, that it is listed in the later census, the Jens Zachariassen was born in Copenhagen.
So his father could be from Copenhagen .. their is a number of Zacharias' in the 1787-Census, that have about the right age.

In the Census of 1801 Zacharias is listed as a sailor (Matros), but in some of the later probates he is listed as a blacksmith (smed).

/ellen

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

Could you link it please? I tried going to the original myself, but there were so many things to fill in and what not, I just got confused. I selected 1801, købstad, Holbæk, then Holbæk again...  ???

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

You need to select:
1801 - Landsogn - Holbæk, Skippinge, Føllenslev.
And then top entry on page 10 - 41. family.
(Landsogn means the country parish - no city)

/Ellen

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

Hi Kristjan

Here is something to get you started. I have added the sources.. eg. 'Grøndal, Sokkelund, København. 1941-1957. Opslag 120' means Churchrecord for Grøndal sogn (parish), Sokkelund Herred, København Amt. for the years 1941-1957. Page 120. You find the churchrecords on www.sa.dk. Good hunting 

1. Else Tagea Jensen
f. 21. April 1912, Brønshøj, Sokkelund, København
c. 24. okt. 1969, Grøndal, Sokkelund, København
d. 10. marts 1983
g: 10. dec. 1933, Grøndal, Sokkelund, København to
Erik Ernst Andersen

Parents of #1 Else Tagea Jensen::
2. Niels Christian Zakarias Jensen
f. 20. August 1872. Asnæs, Ods, Holbæk. 1852-1887. Opslag 45.
d. 9. November 1954. Grøndal, Sokkelund, København. 1941-1957. Opslag 120.

3. Oline Martine Pedersen
f. 5. Juli 1873. Sulsted, Aalborg
d. 6. august 1950. Grøndal, Sokkelund, København. 1941-1957. Opslag 242.

Parents of #2 Niels Christian Zakarias Jensen
4. Niels Jensen, Snedker og husejer
f. 24. februar 1841. Føllenslev, Skippinge, Holbæk. 1835-1866. Opslag 9.

5. Johanne Marie Jensen
f. 22. oktober 1844. Fårevejle, Ods, Holbæk. 1830-1847. Opslag 191.

Parents of #3 Oline Martine Pedersen
6. Carl Anton Pedersen
f. 11. august 1845. Ulsted, Kær, Ålborg. 1833-1851. Opslag 48.

7 Eumalia Olsdatter
f. 16. april 1845. Ajstrup, Kær, Ålborg. 1833-1850. Opslag 90.

Parents of #4 Niels Jensen:
8. Jens Zachariassen
f. ca. 1792, København
g. 28. december 1821. Føllenslev, Skippinge, Holbæk. 1814-1835. Opslag 180.

9. Ane Hansdatter
f. 31. januar 1796. Vallekilde, Ods, Holbæk. 1775-1815. Opslag 29.

Parents of #5 Johanne Marie Jensen:
10. Jens Nielsen
f. 02. maj 1818, Fårevejle, Ods, Holbæk. 1812-1830. Opslag 22.

11. Bodil Larsdatter
f. 17. september 1823. Fårevejle, Ods, Holbæk. 1812-1830. Opslag 126.

Parents of #6 Carl Anton Pedersen:
12. Peter Christian Jensen
f. 22. oktober 1822. Ulsted, Kær, Ålborg. 1814-1834. Opslag 21.

13. Mariane Hansdatter
f. 25. juni 1818. Vester Brønderslev, Børglum, Hjørring. 1815-1849. Opslag 52.

Parents of #7 Eumalia Olsen:
14. Ole Jensen
f. 7. februar 1806. Ajstrup, Kær, Ålborg. 1760-1819. Opslag 286.

15. Mariane Nielsdatter
f. 29. januar 1809. Hallund, Dronninglund, Hjørring. 1778-1824. Opslag 107.

Parents of #8 Jens Zachariassen:
16. Zacharias Svitzybel (?)
f. ca. 1759

17. Karen Henrichsdatter
f. 1761

Parents of #9 Ane Hansdatter:
18. Hans Andersen
f. ca. 1765. Valdekilde.
d. 9. juli 1837. Valdekilde, Ods, Holbæk. 1837-1869. Opslag 178.

19. Ane Madsdatter
f.  ca. 1766. Valdekilde.
d. 10. mar. 1834
(Probate: http://aurelia-clemons.dk/dragshmx.htm)

Parents of # 10 Jens Nielsen:
20. Niels Christensen
f. ca. 1791. Fårevejle.
d. 11. september 1829. Fårevejle, Ods, Holbæk. 1812-1830. Opslag 361.

21. Johanne Jensdatter
b. ca. 1784. Fårevejle.

Parents of  #11. Bodil Larsdatter:
22. Lars Hansen
b. ca. 1781. Fårevejle.
(Census 1834. Fårevejle, Ods, Holbæk. http://www.ddd.dda.dk )

23. Sidse Larsdatter
b. ca. 1786. Fårevejle.
(Census 1834. Fårevejle, Ods, Holbæk. http://www.ddd.dda.dk )

Parents of #12. Peter Christian Jensen
24. Jens Andersen
f. 1788 (?)

25. Ane Pedersdatter
f. 1796. Dronningund, Hjørring. (?)

Parents of #13. Mariane Hansdatter
26. Hans Christensen Vestergaard
f. 1783. Vester Brønderslev, Børglum, Hjørring.
(Census 1845. Vester Brønderslev, Børglum, Hjørring. http://www.ddd.dda.dk )

27. Else Marie Christensdatter
f. 1794. Vester Brønderslev, Børglum, Hjørring.
(Census 1845. Vester Brønderslev, Børglum, Hjørring. http://www.ddd.dda.dk )

Parents of #14.Ole Jensen
28. Jens Pedersen
f. 1761.
(Census 1801. Ajstrup, Kær, Ålborg. http://www.ddd.dda.dk )

29. Ane Marie Oledatter
f. 1777
(Census 1801. Ajstrup, Kær, Ålborg. http://www.ddd.dda.dk )

Parents of #15. Mariane Nielsdatter
30. Niels Christensen
f. 1767
(Census 1834. Hallund, Dronninglund, Hjørring. http://www.ddd.dda.dk )

31. Ide Jørgensdatter
f. 1780
(Census 1834. Hallund, Dronninglund, Hjørring. http://www.ddd.dda.dk )

Parents of #29. Ane Marie Olesdatter
68. Ole Jørgensen
f. 1751
(Census 1801. Ajstrup, Kær, Ålborg. http://www.ddd.dda.dk )

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

Hi Kristjan

Based on records on Ancestry.com it seems, that Niels Christian Jensen, born on dec. 16th 1903 on Copenhagenm, arrived in N.Y. on May 20th 1925.
On September 03rd 1927 he got married to Gunna (Danish, born in Copenhagen on Feb 18th 1901).
And on Dec 27th 1937 he got a son, Norman C. in N.Y.
On June 10th 1940 he applied for US Citizenship.

/Ellen

[Ellen Steen-Petersen]

Hi Kristjan

Seems like Karlo Alex went to USA in 1924.
This can be found on http://www.ellisisland.org

First Name: Karlo Aleks
Last Name: Jensen
Ethnicity: Denmark, Scandinavian
Last Place of Residence: Copenhagen, Denmark
Date of Arrival: Feb 06, 1924
Age at Arrival:  23y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:  S   
Ship of Travel: Oscar ll
Port of Departure: Copenhagen
Manifest Line Number: 0013

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

I have found the following information on Niels Christian Jensen and Karlo Alex Jensen.

Karlo lived in New Jersey after he came to the USA. He was married to a British woman, Elsia or Elsie who as born about 1909.  They had two daughters, Audrey A. Jensen who was born in New Jersey in March 1930 and Barbara E. Jensen who was born c 1936 in New Jersey.  Karlo died in Millburn, New Jersey in March 1973.

Niels Christian Jensen married Gunna Hoyberg or Høyberg, who was born in Denmark, on 3 Sep 1927 in the Bronx, New York (part of New York City).  They lived in New York City. They had a son, Norman C. Jensen, who was born 27 Dec 1937.  I think he is still living and found this information on the  internet.
  Norman Christian Jensen
  30 Silverberry St.
  Georgetown, DE 19947
  (302)253-0696

Niels Christian Jensen died in St. Peterburg, Florida on 29 Sep 1979-
Gunna Jensen died in Pinellas, Florida on 25 Jan 1978.

If you want information on Gunna Hoyberg or Høyberg, just let me know.

Sincerely,
Paul
North Carolina, USA

[Kristján Unnar Ellertsson]

Ellen, I do not think I could thank you enough for all this information. You are so kind to take your time and help me so much.
Same thanks goes to everyone who contributed.

It's been fun seeing Alex's and Christian's adventures in USA.

Paul, I do not think I wouldn't like any more information about Gunna H. I've never really cared about the ancestry of the spouses, at least I wish to focus mainly on my family at the moment. Thank you though!
It would be great fun to get information about Alex's and Christian's descendants... Could that be done? I realize this is so much work for you, but you wouldn't mind?

I have a feeling the ancestors can not be traced any further back, am I wrong? I hope i'm wrong!  : )
You have all been such a great help. I mean it.
The fact that I could get up to great great grandparents of Else is marvellous.

I tried looking at the census 1801, with Zakarias's last name. Whoever wrote this.. did a pretty good job on impossible to read handwriting.

Now, if I would like to find something about the ancestors of my great grandfather, Erik, should I create a new topic or save space and just continue posting here? I got more information about him because I managed to trace something back, but not much.

Sincerely,
Kristján.

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

I would try writing to Norman Christian Jensen in Delaware.  Be sure to include you e-mail address.  As to Erik, I would start a new thread so we can concentrate on him.

Sincerely,
Paul

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Kristjan,

If anyone can help you find more information about Karlo Alexi Jensen it would be Wendy Hudson at danenj@aol.com.  Tell her that in 1930 he was living in Irvington, in 1940 in Newark, and in 1950 in Millburn.  In the censuses he is listed as Carlo A. Jensen.

Sincerely,
Paul

[Lise Østerberg Bahr]

Hallo - and to

John Wrenholt - hmm, I tried to contact you at the old Dis Forum some years ago -
Sorry, but no I don´t remenber what it was about !

maby i wrote to an old e-mail ?

Regards
Lise Østerberg Bahr