Emil Pabst Randers Köpenhamn och Carlo Engvej Kolding Köpehamn Hjörring

[Conny Karlsson]

I am search for information about

Emil Pabst
Born in Randers - no further information available
died in Copenhagen 1935 or 36

Emil was married to
Hilda Ingeborg Nilsson
*   29 Jan 1902 in Vollsjö, Malmöhus, Skåne, Sweden
+ late 1960is or early 70ies in Copenhagen

They had no children

I would like to know more about Emil, his parents and sibblings.

Carlo Engvej
* 23 OCT 1898 in Kolding, Brusk, Vejle, Denmark
+ Hjorring
was married to
Johanna Antonia Nilsson (Hilda's sister)
*  11 Feb 1900 in No 6, Vollsjö, Malmöhus, Skåne, Sweden
+ Hjorring

She was married before and had a child from this marriage, Emil born around 1920/21

After the family moved from Copenhagen to Hjorring my father-in-law lost contact with his
aunt.

I hope to find more information about these two families. Help is much appreciate. Unfortunately
I cannot read the Danish churchbook  ???

Thank you very much in advance

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Conni,

Here is Hilda in the København police registry http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2117227&searchname=polit_simple.  I will try to find more information for you.

Sincerely,
Paul

[Conny Karlsson]

Thank you Paul.

In the second line from below
1923 2nd Mars ???   -> 5/3 Bock

this sounds like it might have been the man that became her first husband.
Very curious about this part of the family.

Thanks again

[Mette R Francke]

Hei

Maybe ?
Holger Emil Adam Pabst , 3-11-1900 , Kongenslev
Stillinger: Maskinarbejder

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=1847885&searchname=polit_adv

Mette

[Eva Morfiadakis]

Hej,

She was a maid. Probably the names after the adresses are those of her employers.

I think it says Bach fra Sverige.

Eva M

[Conny Karlsson]

If I look at the photo I have from Emil from 1935 I do have the feeling he is older.
He is riding a motorbike

[Conny Karlsson]

Eva could it be wrong transcripted?

[Gitte Johansen]

Holger Emil Adam Pabst is from Kongensbro.

Viborg, Grønbæk.

[Eva Morfiadakis]

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=1526640&searchname=polit_adv

She is staying with her sister.

Eva M

[Mette R Francke]

Hei

Do you know if he was much older than Hilda?

Randers, Gjerlev, Enslev, Enslev Sogn og Bye, en Gaard, 23, FT-1880, C6263
Navn:    Alder:    Civilstand:      Stilling i husstanden:      Erhverv:      Fødested:
F. Pabst    56    Gift    Gaardeier       Randers
A. Pabst    56    Gift    hans Kone       Kjøbenhavn
A. Pabst    21    Ugift    deres Barn       Østertørslev Sogn, Randers Amt
L. Pabst    16    Ugift    deres Barn       Østertørslev Sogn, Randers Amt
A. Pabst    19    Ugift    deres Barn       Østertørslev Sogn, Randers Amt
E. Pabst    9    Ugift    deres Barn       Enslev Sogn, Randers Amt
A. Jensen    22    Ugift    Tjenestekarl       Kalø. Randers Amt
J. Madsen    21    Ugift    Tjenestekarl       Kalø. Randers Amt
M. Christensen    21    Ugift    Tjenestepige       Tversted Sogn, Hjørring Amt
A. K. Haunsen    21    Ugift    Tjenestepige       Sverrig

Mette

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej,

The E. Pabst in the 1880 census is Emma so that is not the one we are looking for.

Med venlig hilsen
Paul

[Eva Morfiadakis]

Karlo was bon in Kolding Sct Nicolaj 23 Oct. 1898, image 199. He was born as Karlo Ejns Mor Slangerup.

In 1930 Nov. he got permission to change Slangerup to Engvej by the Copenhagen Overpraesidium.

His parents were shoemaker Marten Laurids Martensen and his wife Lovise Sophie Jensen, 35.
Married in Kolding on 5 May, 1883.

Eva M

[Eva Morfiadakis]

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=1867910&searchname=polit_adv

Here he is as Slangerup.

Eva M

[Conny Karlsson]

Hej,

The E. Pabst in the 1880 census is Emma so that is not the one we are looking for.

Med venlig hilsen
Paul

It was a family from Randers. We have heritage from them marked Randers.

Thank you very much for you kind assistance Paul

[Conny Karlsson]

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=1526640&searchname=polit_adv

She is staying with her sister.

Eva M

So it is true he was a musician. Thank you Eva, that's him. Thank you so much.

[Eva Morfiadakis]

Johanna A is not married to Engvej on the registerblade. If she was married to him it must be in a second marriage.

Eva M

[Verner Bentsen]

Hej

Military records for Holger Emil & Carlo.
--------------------------
Holger Emil Adam Pabst: Levy number: 1 tilgang 1920 S, nr. 4599
Register: http://www.sa.dk/ao/billedviser?epid=2967034#28988,3214096

Tilgang 1920, omskrevet 1930 (still in Copenhagen in 1930)
http://www.sa.dk/ao/billedviser?epid=16481033#18812,1211312
Born 3 nov 1900, Grønbæk, father Købmand K.A. P.
In the navy.
--------------------------
Carlo Einar Mor Slangerup: Levy number: 1 tilgang 1919 R, nr. 5106
Register: http://www.sa.dk/ao/billedviser?epid=2967034#28987,3214018

Tilgang 1919, omskrevet 1929 ( still in Copenhagen in 1929 )
http://www.sa.dk/ao/billedviser?epid=16481033#18807,1208220
Born 23 okt 1898, Kolding, father Skomager Martin L Mortensen;
Ej indkaldt. (not in the army)
Name changed to Engvej.
------------------------------

mvh Verner

[Inger Toudal]

Carlo Mor Slangerup's confirmation is seen in Kolding Sct Nikolaj, Brusk, Vejle 1904-1913, opslag 233, No 152.

Strange that his second given name Ejnar is not recorded here.

His father Martin Mortensen/Martinsen was called Slangerup, but it was not his official surname.

Best regards,
Inger Toudal

[Conny Karlsson]

oh it seems that my family had a wrong information about Emil

Holger Emil Adam Pabst went to sea as a maskinest and in 1956 as a Chief Ing.
att Ellis Island he is mentioned as Helger Emil Aadam (transcription error) as well

Helger Emil Aadam Pabst//    Holger Emil Adam Pabst





Sep 26, 1922    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States engineer assistent
Nov 06, 1922    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
Aug 14, 1922    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
Jun 04, 1923    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
Jul 17, 1923    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
Aug 27, 1923    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
Oct 09, 1923    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
Nov 19, 1923    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
Feb 29, 1924    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
Apr 15, 1924    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
May 27, 1924    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States engineer assistent
Jul 20, 1924    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
Aug 31, 1924    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
Oct 14, 1924    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
Nov 25, 1924    Copenhagen  Vessel The United States
Oct 12, 1930     Bremen         Vessel Kentucky              3rd engineer
Jul 4, 1945        Copenhagen  Vessel Virginia                 2bd engineer
Feb 02, 1949     Copenhagen  Vessel Uruguay               2nd engineer
Apr 30, 1949     Copenhagen  Vessel Uruguay               2nd engineer
Jul 27, 1949       Copenhagen  Vessel Uruguay              2nd engineer
Dec 22, 1949     Copenhagen  Vessel Uruguay              2nd engineer
Mar 15, 1950     Copenhagen  Vessel Uruguay              2nd engineer
Dec 27, 1956     Copenhagen  Vessel Samos                Chief engineer

so it seem the family didn't know he was at sea an a tale was made up to explain why he never was at home when they came to visit.

[Gitte Johansen]

Are you sure, that he is the right person?


Look here

http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/index.php?option=com_sfup&controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=1726253&backside=0&searchname=polit_adv

His name is Pabst, not Pabit, and he is from Randers.


Parents: Jens Martin Emil Nielsen and

Elisabeth Johanne Adamine Pabst.

[Conny Karlsson]

no now that I see Pabst and Nielsen it fits much better
as it always was spoken of two names.
Yes that age differents fits more to the picture I have
and the information we have.

[Gitte Johansen]

I have sent the page to you.

[Gitte Johansen]

Randers, Støvring, Randers Købstad, Kvarter/Rode114, Lergravsfaldene, Matr. 302 forhuset stuen, 281 F1, FT-1880, d2583
Navn:   Alder:   Civilstand:   Stilling i husstanden:   Erhverv:   Fødested:
Johan Adam Pabst    46    Gift   bryggeribestyrer husfader      Tyskland
Frederikka Vilhelmine Pabst født Bauer    43    Gift   hans kone      Randers Randers Amt
Elisabeth Johanne Adamine Pabst    14    Ugift   deres datter      Randers Randers Amt

[Gitte Johansen]

I have sent a marriage in 1887.


Randers, Støvring, Randers Købstad, Kvarter/Rode 93, Nygade, Matr. 776 forhuset 1 sal, 417 F2, FT-1880, d2583
Navn:   Alder:   Civilstand:   Stilling i husstanden:   Erhverv:   Fødested:
Jens Martin Emil Nielsen    29    Gift   handelsagent husfader      Randers Randers Amt
Ane Bergithe Elisabeth Nielsen født Halvorsen    29    Gift   hans hustru      Randers Randers Amt

[Conny Karlsson]

thank you very much Gitte
I hope I find the rest now as well

[Gitte Johansen]

I found this

Google his name, and you can see photos of him.



http://www.myheritage.dk/site-family-tree-164303761/ovesen-familien?familyTreeID=5&rootIndivudalID=5000366#!profile-5000366-info


Johan Adam Emil Pabst Nielsen
   Født:   Okt 16 1888   I:   
    Vestergade 44, Randers, Sct Mortens, Støvring, Randers
   Døde:   Aug 29 1938 (49 år gammel)   I:   
    København

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Hilda Ingeborg Nilsson
Hans kone   

JENS MARTIN EMIL NIELSEN
Hans far   

ELISABETH JOHANNE ADAMINE PABST
Hans mor

Charlotte Cathrine Marie Ludovica Nielsen
Halvsøster   

Christian William Andre Pabst Nielsen
Hans bror   

CHRISTIAN WILLIAM ANDRE PABST NIELSEN
Hans bror

Poul Otto Martin Pabst Nielsen
Hans bror               
Biografi

Født 16 oktober 1888 i Vestergade 44, Randers, Sct Mortens, Støvring, Randers (57/1887-91)
Døbt 9 december 1888 i Sct Mortens Kirke. Faddere: Forældrene, fru Hansine Hoppe, brygmester Pabst, kommis Adam Pabst
Konfirmeret 5 april 1903 i Sct Mortens Kirke, Randers. Boende Vestergade 46. (Nr 2, 43/1901-10)
Viet 29 januar 1902 i Malmø
Død 29 august 1938 på Kommunehospitalet, København. Begravet 4 september 1938 fra Bispebjerg Krematorium, København, Nielsen, Johan Adam Emil Pabst. Beslysningsfunktionær. Faxegade 12, 2. sal, København. Gift med efterlevende Hilda Ingeborg, født Nilsson. Født 16 oktober 1888 i Randers, Sct Mortens sogn. Søn af handelsagent Jens Martin Emil Nielsen og hustru Johanne Elisabeth Adamine, født Pabst. 49 år, (1888, 16. oktober)
Toves notater: Viet til Hilda den 29 januar 1902 i Malmø. Hun døde 14 marts 1989 i København og blev begravet der. Han boede Ndr. Frihavnsgade (Rosenvænget sogn) Adam Emil: Død 29 august 1938 i København, begravet på Assistens Kirkegård
FT 1906, opslag 108, Kongenbro, 6. familie, Grønbæk, Lysgård, Viborg
               Adam Pabst, 6/8 1862, gift, husfader, købmand
               Cecilie Pabst, 11/2 1869, gift, husmoder
                Kristian Pabst, 31/5 1897, ugift, barn
                Viktor Pabst, 18/10 1898, ugift, barn
                Holger Pabst, 3/11 1900, ugift, barn
                Elna Pabst, 27/8 1902, ugift, barn
                Poul Kristian Nielsen, 3/2 1885, ugift, handelsbetjent
                Adam Emil Nielsen, 6/10 1888, ugift, handelslærling
                Johanne Jensen, 17(3 1885, ugift, tjenestepige
                Sofie Jensen, 4/6 1891, ugift, tjenestepige
                Niels Poulsen, 12/7 1869, ugift, tjenestekarl, købmandskarl
                Jens Kristian Madsen, 20/4 1880, ugift, tjenestekarl, købmandskarl
                Daniel Simonsen, 23/5 1888, ugift, tjenestekarl, arbejdskarl ved landbruget
                Johamia Hagemester Møller, 18/11 1886, ugift lærerinde i huset

[Conny Karlsson]

Thank you Gitte - I will get in touch with the owner. It is him - I recognize him on the last two pictures.

This mystery is solved. Thank you very much.