Finding the parents of Karen Larsdatter

Startet af Jan Nielsen, 23 Jan 2014 - 00:44

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Jan Nielsen

Hello Again,
Having difficulty finding the parents of Karen Larsdatter(my 4th great grandmother) b. abt 1772 in Vindinge, Roskilde amt. Died June 16, 1846. She was married to Peder Hansen b. abt. 1778 in Gadstrup, Roskilde amt. and died May 24, 1851 in Gadstrup.
So any information about the parents, birth dates and parish etc.
Dates and location of Karen and Peders marriage.
Thanks,
Jan Nielsen

Ralph Rasmussen

A little bit of an if - if there isn't a second Karen, missed by the census, she is here:

Lars Crestensen 45  Gift Husbonde Bonde 
Johanne Pedersdatter 35  Gift Madmoder   
Karen [ Larsdatter] 14  Ugift Deres børn (in her fourteenth year) 
Mette [ Larsdatter] 10  Ugift Deres børn   
Maren [ Larsdatter] 7  Ugift Deres børn   
Kirsten [ Larsdatter] 5  Ugift Deres børn   
Niels [ Larsen] 2  Ugift Deres børn   
Anna [ Larsdatter] 1  Ugift Deres børn

And in the Vindinge 1649-1804 parish register, opslag 72, February 7, 1773.

Septuagesima, d 7de Febr blev Lars Christensens
og Hustru Johanna deres datter døbt og
kaldet Karen, baaren af barnets Mor Mor
TT: ..... .... Povel Ibsen, Niels
........ Mette Hansdatter

At full enlargement, better minds than mine should be able to interpret the two missing witnesses.
Med venlig Hilsen
Ralph Rasmussen
<1850 Hammer herred, Præstø

Ralph Rasmussen

I think this is Peder.

Baptized Trinity XIV 1777, Gadstrup 1763-1814, opslag 19 bottom left.  Also Family Search image 19.

Peder is the son of Anna Margarete Hansdatter, who claimed she was assaulted by a stranger.

Dom: 14ta p: Trinit: døbt Anna Margareta Hans Datters
Uægte Søn i Gadstrup, kaldet Peder.  Christen
Mogensens Hustrue ibidm bar ham.  Fadderne:
Peder Sørensen og Hustrue, Hans Smeds Hustrue,
Peder Larsens Hustrue, alle af Gadstrup.

NB: til Barnets Fader blev ingen ved Navn udlagt;
Men alleneste at hun var af en ubekiendt Persohn
voldtaget paa ..........................

His baptism, entries in the census, and marriage would test this line of reasoning.
Med venlig Hilsen
Ralph Rasmussen
<1850 Hammer herred, Præstø

Jan Nielsen

Thanks Ralph,
How did you find karen in the census? I could not.
I looked at the church records you mentioned it seems to be correct. Thanks again.
Am I to understand that the mother is Anna Margarete Hansdatter and her husband is Christen Mogensen, but not the father?
Jan Nielsen

Ralph Rasmussen

The woman who 'carries' the child to the font is usually named.  That was the role of Christen Mogensen's wife.

Peder's mother was unmarried.  The record doesn't hint that her story was implausible, as it might have if she had a bad reputation.


Med venlig Hilsen
Ralph Rasmussen
<1850 Hammer herred, Præstø

Jan Nielsen

As a follow up I was checking other  possible options on for Peder Hansen,s parents and found this in the 1787 cunsus for Brordrup Bye, Gadstrup, Roslikde amt.
Hans Holgersen 56 years - 2nd marriage
Bodil Hansdatter 39 years
Jens Hansen 18 1st marriage
Peder hansen 8 2nd marriage
Niels Hansen 2 2nd marriage

Any chance this could be his parents?
Jan Nielsen

Ralph Rasmussen

This Peder Hansen was baptized Trinity Sunday 1780, opslag 23, upper left.

In 1787 and 1801, age is the year begun, later it is to be the years attained.  But the status fits better.

He is here in 1801:

Roskilde, Ramsø, Gadstrup, , , 34, FT-1801, B8768
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv

Hans Holgorsen 69  Gift Huusbond Bonde og Gaardbeboer 
Bodil Hansd: 48  Gift Hans Kone   
Peder Hansen 21  Ugift Deres Børn   
Niels Hansen 16  Ugift Deres Børn   
Karen Hansd: 8  Ugift Deres Børn   
Jørgen Hansen 22  Ugift Tjenestekarl

A good tie in would be if Peder and Karen had a daughter Bodil.
Med venlig Hilsen
Ralph Rasmussen
<1850 Hammer herred, Præstø