Jørgen Jørgensen

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

I am trying to find out any information on my 7th great grandfather Jørgen Jørgensen.  I know that his son Steen Jørgensen owned Aunsbjerg Manor in Sjørslev, Lysgård, Viborg.  Jørgen was born c 1608 and died in 1681.  Steen was born in 1677 and died in 1754.  From what I understand it would have been highly unusual for someone to move upward in society at that time.  Would someone look at the following records and translate them for me.

Birth of Steen Jørgensen in 1677 in Barløse, Båg, Odense, opslag 65.
Death of Jørgen Jørgensen in 1681 in Barløse, opslag 76.

Marriage of Steen Jørgensen to Agnete Cathrine Mortensdatter in Vejlby, Vends, Odense in 1706, opslag 25.

Death of Steen Jørgensen in Sjørslev, Lysgård, Viborg in 1754, opslag 3, 1754-1807.

A translation of these records would also be appreciated.  Mange tak.

Med venlig hilsen
Paul

[Inge Nissen]

Hej Paul

Do you know Nygårds Sedler? Nygaards notes on www.ddd.dda.dk (only on the Danish site?)
Wads Sedler - Wads notes - on www.sedler.dis-Danmark.dk (klik her)

There are a lot of notes about men called Jørgen Jørgensen, a very comman name, but not about "your" Jørgen Jørgensen, I think.

There a some notes about "your" Steen/Sten Jørgensen,

one says he had a son Georg Christopher Steensen, born 1736 on Aunsbjerg. Georg was "preussisk generalleutenant and gouverneur in Neisse"

Another that Steen Jørgensen was "fuldmægtig on Billeshave" when he married Agnete Cathrine Mortensdatter, 23.03.1706.

Agnete died 6.6.1722 and 1723 he married Marie Cathrine Balslev, born 05.03.1703, died 01.09.1744
Her parents was "Amtsforvalter in Odense Rasmus Andresen and Marie Elisabeth Bang".

Steen Jørgensen was "godsforvalter on Frederiksgave and Hindsgavl" and later on the owner of Aunsbjerg.
Commerceraad - died 30.11.1754.

He had brother Jørgen Jørgensen in Barløse and 2 sisters, Karen married to Claus Pedersen in Barløse and Cicel (Sidsel) married to Jens Jensen in Kerteminde.

2 children Peder born 04.08.1715 and Edel Marie born 22.08.1717.

Venlig hilsen Inge

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Inge,

Thank you so much for the information.

I know that Steen Jørgensen had at least three half brothers and sisters and possible a fourth half sister.  His father, Jørgen Jørgensen was married to Karen Clausdatter who died in Barløse in Dec 1659, opslag 6.  Their children were Jørgen, Anna, Claus, and possible Giertrud who died in Barløse in 1660, opslag 7.

Jørgen Jørgensen then married Ane Pedersdatter and had six children, all born in Barløse.
  Karen Jørgensdatter, my 6th great grandmother, born 1663, opslag 16.
  Lauritz Jørgensen, born 1661, opslag 12, died in 1674, opslag 55.
  Giertrud Jørgensdatter, born 1668, opslag 35.
  Sidtzell Jørgensdatter, born 1672, opslag 48.
  Anna Jørgensdatter, born 1675, opslag 58, died in 1675, opslag 59.
  Steen Jørgensen, born 1677.

I am familiar with Nygårds Sedler and often use it.  I still wonder whether Jørgen Jørgensen was an important person in Barløse.

Med venlig hilsen
Paul

[Inger Toudal]

Hi Paul,

http://am-aner.dk/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I408&tree=1942

The above link gives the following documentation for Jørgen Jørgensen ca. 1608 - 1681:

Notater     

-   1660: Jørgen Jørgensen for sig sin hustru - 2 Sønner och 1 pige [maid] - 2½ mk.

   film S 5946 matrikel* 1664: Barløse Jørgen Jørgensen 1 gård, HK 12.1.1.0. (* land registration)

   se også årb. bd. 2, s.108ff.

   årb. bd. 5, s.620: matrikel 1682: en gård, ejer Holger Rosenkrantz, bruger Jørgen Jørgensen, nu Claus Pedersen.

Kilder

-  Jørgen Jørgensen optræder som gift i mandtal* 1660 og må altså være gift samme år, men vielsen er ikke fundet i Barløse kirkebog som begynder 1659. (* tax list, for info see https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Denmark_Taxation - only persons over 12 years are listed.)

Two occupations are mentioned:

Stilling     delefoged* under Brahesborg gods (* a kind of sheriff acting on behalf of the estate owner)
Stilling     mlm.1634-1676     Barløse, Barløse sogn, Baag herred
                                            gårdfæster under Brahesborg gods

I think the farm registered in 1664 is of a considerable size.

- Jørgen Jørgensen in Barløse and Sten Jørgensen were witnesses at the baptism of Claus Pedersen's daughter Elisabeth 1696:

http://www.sedler.dis-danmark.dk/wad/vis_sedler.php?page_id=15&id_nr=42389&sort=e&vis=2&navn=J%C3%B8rgensen+Sten (scroll down)

- Steen Jørgensen's two marriages 1706 and 1723:

http://www.sedler.dis-danmark.dk/wad/vis_sedler.php?page_id=15&id_nr=43683&sort=e&vis=2&navn=J%C3%B8rgensen+Steen

- Sten Jørgensen in Barløse (brother Jørgen, sister Karen married to Claus Pedersen in Barløse, sister Cicel married to Jens Jensen Skrædder in Kerteminde):

Children: Peder 4 Aug. 1717, Edel Marie 22 Aug. 1717

http://www.sedler.dis-danmark.dk/wad/vis_sedler.php?page_id=15&id_nr=43688&sort=e&vis=2&navn=J%C3%B8rgensen+Sten

Best regards,
Inger Toudal

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Inge,

Mange tusind tak for din Hjælp.  I had found some of the information but you have helped me add much more to my family tree.

A Dane did find an 1651 Barløse court record that said Jørgen Jørgensen was the son of the late esteemed Jørgen Kjeldsen, so apparently Jørgen Kjeldsen died between 1629 and 1651.  Unfortuately the Barløse records don't go back that far.

Med venlig hilsen
Paul

[Inger Toudal]

The record you refer to is quoted here as well: http://am-aner.dk/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I1739&tree=1942

It seems that Claus Pedersen's and Karen Jørgensdatter's daughter Elisabeth was married to a man of considerable wealth - Hans Christensen Juul. Indicates that she was not without means?

Maybe Steen Jørgensen's wives were not without means, either?

I see I made a typo - Steen Jørgensen's son Peder was born 1715, not 1717.

Venlig hilsen
Inger T.

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Inge,

I wish that I was at my house.  In a copy of "En Gammel Baag Herreds Slægt", written in the 1910s, the author speculates that Jørgen Jørgensen was the illegitimate son of Jørgen Steensen Brahe.  One of the reasons is that there was a silver plate that celebrated the marriage of Jørgen Jørgensen and Ane Pedersdatter.  Of course, we know he was not Jørgen Steensen Brahe's son, but it indicates that Jørgen Jørgensen knew someone of wealth.  When I get home I will get the pages and post them.

Med venlig hilsen
Paul