Help with Translation

Startet af Dixie MacFarlane, 02 Jan 2013 - 15:58

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Dixie MacFarlane

Could someone please translate Opslag 77, 1892-1898 Essenbæk Parish, Sønderhald, Randers, Denmark for me?  Specifically, I'm trying to determine which town and parish Frans Johan Karlsson was born in.  It gives me a date of Jun 22, 1868 for his date of birth.  Also, I believe his parents are named Karl Johan Svendsen & Ane Kathrine Sammelson.  Can you also tell me where the marriage took place.  Thank-you.
- Dixie MacFarlane

Eva Morfiadakis

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He was born in Vraa/Vrå parish in Kronobergs län in Sweden.

Karl Johan Svensson and Ane (Anna) Kathrine (Kathrina) Samuelsson i Stroholt.

I will check the Swedish places/villages. They are written in Danish.

He was born in a village called Singsjö. His parents lived in Stråhult.


Eva M
Eva M

Bente Wanning

hi
Frantz Johan is born in Lingsjø, Vraa forsamling, Kronoborgs len, Sverige (Sweden)

Wedding day:  August 4th, 1893 with Kongebrev (Royal License) because the bride is under 21 years old.
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Lissa Pedersen

#3
Hi Dixie,

Frans Johan Karlsson is from Singsjö, Vra, Kronobergs Län in Sweden. His parents are: smallholder Karl Johan Svensson and wife Ane Kathrine Samuelsson in (perhaps) Stråhult (Sweden) xxx.

Try www.maps.google.com to find the places.

The couple was married according to Royal permission of 27 July.

Frans was a brickworks laborer.

Lissa


Eva Morfiadakis

http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenb%C3%A6k_Kirke

The marriage took place in the parish church which seems to be in the village of Assentoft.

Eva M
Eva M

Inger Toudal

#5

Ungkarl, Teglværksarbejder Frans
Johan Karlsson født i Singsjø,
Vraa forsamling, Kronobergs
Len d 22 Juni 1868, søn af Hus-
mand Karl Johan Svensson og
Hustru Ane Kathrine Samuelsson
i Stroholt (Sverige). Floes.

Pige, Sy(?)pige Ane Kirstine Nielsen
født i Drastrup d 25 Maj 1873,
Datter af Husmand Niels Niel-
sen og Hustru Ane Nielsen
i Drastrup. Drastrup.


[bondsmen/sponsors:]
Teglværksarbej-
der Noah Samuel-
sen og Husmand
Jens Anker Jensen
begge af Floes
.

[banns:]
Kongebrev.

4 Au-
gust
1893.

Sognepræsten Østergaard
I Kirken.
Kongebrev af 27 Juli
Ægteskabsattest af 3 Juli.
Hjemstedsbevis af 21 Juli.


Floes is a placename in Virring parish, Sønderhald district.

Kongebrev, also called Kongelig bevilling ("royal license/permission") is, in my opinion, not required because of the bride's age, but because the banns were not announced on three successive Sundays prior to the wedding (note the dates in the other records). Please refer to https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Denmark:_Engagement_/_Marriage_Records.

At that time, the groom should be over 20, the bride over 16 years. See e.g. http://www.h58.dk/Kirke-Religion/Pr_opg_v_Vielser.pdf.

This was changed to 23 and 21 years respectively in 1922, and in 1969 to 18 years for both groom and bride (http://www.denstoredanske.dk/Samfund,_jura_og_politik/Sociologi/Organisationer_og_institutioner/%C3%A6gteskab/%C3%A6gteskab_%28Retshistorie%29).

Best regards,
Inger Toudal

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Inger Toudal

Inger Toudal


It seems the couple was in a hurry to get married. About three weeks after the marriage a son was born (Virring, Sønderhald, Randers 1892-1897, opslag 14, # 13).

The sponsor Jens Anker Jensen was married to Ane Kirstine Nielsen's older sister Karen:

Randers, Sønderhald, Virring, Virring sogn, Floes, Hus 2, 1, FT-1890, C5543
Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Position in household:      Occupation:      Birthplace:
Jens Anker Jensen   32    Gift   Husfader   Arbejder ved Teglværk   Voldum
Karen Nielsen   28    Gift   Husmoder      Essenbæk sogn Randers amt
Drengebarn Ennu Uden Navn      Ugift   Barn      Virring sogn Randers amt
- - - - -

Randers, Sønderhald, Essenbæk, Drastrup Mark Essenbæk Sogn, en gaard, 102 (3) F1, FT-1880, c7579
Name:    Age:    Marital status:      Position in household:      Occupation:      Birthplace:
Niels Nielsen   48    Gift   husfader gaardejer      Ulstrup Sogn Randers Amt
Ane Nielsen   43    Gift   hans hustru      Her i Sognet Randers Amt
Karen Nielsen   18    Ugift   deres børn      Her i Sognet Randers Amt
Niels Anton Nielsen   13    Ugift   deres børn      Her i Sognet Randers Amt
Nielsine Severine Nielsen   9    Ugift   deres børn      Her i Sognet Randers Amt
Ane Kirstine Nielsen   6    Ugift   deres børn      Her i Sognet Randers Amt
Nielsine Nielsen   3    Ugift   deres børn      Her i Sognet Randers Amt

Among the witnesses at the baptism in Virring 1893 are Niels Nielsen's widow Ane Nielsen, and  Severine Nielsen, Drastrup Mark.

Best regards,
Inger T.
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Dixie MacFarlane

How interesting.  I thank all of you for your help!! - Dixie