Larsen relatives

[Richard Johnson]

I am looking for information on my great grandfather Lawerence Emil Larsen.  Items I have found are:

Marriage record lists:
   his name as Lawrence E. Larsen
   Fathers name as Frederick Larsen
   Mothers name as Ellen M. Nielsen
   born in Helsinger Denmark

His obituary lists:
   born on Sjoelland Island, Denmark on February 28, 1863
   Immigrated to the United States in 1879.

I have found other records after his arrival in the United States, but have no information about his family or life in Denmark.

Thank you,

Richard Johnson

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Perhaps this is your Lawrence
Name:    Larsen, Lauritz Emil   Occupation:    Arbejder
Age:    18   Destination:    Grand Island, Nebr.
Contract no.:    107800   Registration date:    6/20/1881
Last res. parish:    København   Last res. county:    København
Last residence:    Kjbh.   Destination country:    USA
Destination city:    Grand Island   Destination state:    Nebraska
Name of ship:    Thingvalla
Remarks:    ANM: Thingvalla. BEM: se D8182L0203 - muligvis samme person - data ens, bestemmelsessted forskellig.   IDcode:    D8182L0207

Sincerely,
Paul

[Jens Thomassen]

Hi

Found on www.familysearch.org


Name: Lauritz Emil Larsen
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 May 1863
Baptism/Christening Place: SANKT OLAI, HELSINGOR, FREDERIKSBORG, DENMARK
Birth Date:  
Birthplace:  
Death Date:  
Name Note:  
Race:  
Father's Name: Jens Larsen
Father's Birthplace:  
Father's Age:  
Mother's Name: Ellen Nielsen
Mother's Birthplace:  
Mother's Age:  
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C22066-3
System Origin: Denmark-ODM
Source Film Number: 300694

The church in Helsingoer is Sankt Olai.

His first name was Laurits (Lawrence) and he was born february 28. 1863.

[Homer Ficken]

Richard, did you know he was a twin?  Their births are recorded at Skt Mariæ and the baptisms at Skt Olai, in Frederiksborg, attached (Skt Mariæ 1843-1863 opslag 137 and Skt Olai 1861-1874 opslag 30)



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[Homer Ficken]

And a puzzle:  Lauritz Emil must have left his parents' household early, as his twin Heinrich John was confirmed at Skt Olai 1877, but L. E. is not listed there (attached):



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[Verner Bentsen]

More informtions here:

http://www.dis-danmark.dk/forum/read.php?11,536915,537632

Mvn Verner

[Jens Thomassen]

Hello

Please tell the full story next time.!

....but have no information about his family or life in Denmark.

[Richard Johnson]

Hello

Please tell the full story next time.!

....but have no information about his family or life in Denmark.

Dear Jens Thomassen,

The information that is on Ancestry.com was from information prior to finding the marriage record and obituary which shows that his fathers name in not Jens, but Fredrick.  I have been unable to change the data on Ancestry and am working with them on updating the old information with the new.  At the time this information was put on Ancestry it was assumed that his fathers name was Jens Larsen, but the marriage certificate now shows that this was wrong and thus it is true that I don't have any accurate information on his family or life in Denmark.

Thank You,

Richard Johnson

[Richard Johnson]

Perhaps this is your Lawrence
Name:    Larsen, Lauritz Emil   Occupation:    Arbejder
Age:    18   Destination:    Grand Island, Nebr.
Contract no.:    107800   Registration date:    6/20/1881
Last res. parish:    København   Last res. county:    København
Last residence:    Kjbh.   Destination country:    USA
Destination city:    Grand Island   Destination state:    Nebraska
Name of ship:    Thingvalla
Remarks:    ANM: Thingvalla. BEM: se D8182L0203 - muligvis samme person - data ens, bestemmelsessted forskellig.   IDcode:    D8182L0207

Sincerely,
Paul

This makes sense that it is the right person since Grand Island is only about 30 miles from where he ended up living.  Also even though his obituary states that he arrived in 1879 the 1900 and 1910 US census states that he arrived in 1882, thus this immigration record appears to be accurate.

Thank you,

Richard Johnson

[Richard Johnson]

Hi

Found on www.familysearch.org


Name: Lauritz Emil Larsen
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 May 1863
Baptism/Christening Place: SANKT OLAI, HELSINGOR, FREDERIKSBORG, DENMARK
Birth Date:  
Birthplace:  
Death Date:  
Name Note:  
Race:  
Father's Name: Jens Larsen
Father's Birthplace:  
Father's Age:  
Mother's Name: Ellen Nielsen
Mother's Birthplace:  
Mother's Age:  
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C22066-3
System Origin: Denmark-ODM
Source Film Number: 300694

The church in Helsingoer is Sankt Olai.

His first name was Laurits (Lawrence) and he was born february 28. 1863.

Dear Jens Thomassen,

This record does appear to look like it may be his and even though the birth date matches the one given on his obituary I don't know how to explain the  difference in the name of the father which  is shown on his marriage certiificate as Frederick Larsen?

Thank you,

Richard Johnson

[Richard Johnson]

And a puzzle:  Lauritz Emil must have left his parents' household early, as his twin Heinrich John was confirmed at Skt Olai 1877, but L. E. is not listed there (attached):

Dear Mr. Ficken,

This information may not be accurate since it is based on the assumption that his fathers name was Jens Larsen and not Frederick Larsen.  That is why I'm trying to straighten this out with more research based on the new information found on his marriage certificate.

Thank you,

Richard Johnson

[Richard Johnson]

More informtions here:

http://www.dis-danmark.dk/forum/read.php?11,536915,537632

Mvn Verner

Dear Verner Bentsen,

This was a line of research that was originally done, but I now think is was based on the wrong assumption that his fathers name was Jens Larsen and not Frederick Larsen as is given on his marriage record I found in St. Paul, Nebraska.  That marriage record is why I am trying to find out if there is any information on his Danish ancestry based on this new information which should be different than what was found based on the original assumptions.

Thank you,

Richard Johnson

[Homer Ficken]

The odds are extremely slim that there were two Lauritz Emil Larsens with the same birth date, both born in Helsingor, and mother's name of both Ellen Nielsen.  On the other hand, odds of errors such as father's name recorded in another country years later are pretty good.

The extensive data on the old forum (which you should have reminded us of) indicates that by at least the time Lauritz was 14, his father had abandoned the family, and Lauritz was living with foster parents.  He may thus have had dim or unpleasant memories of his father.  The only error was probably his marriage record, which was later copied for his obituary.