Peter Vilhelm Frederiksen (Maribo, Denmark)

[Kirsten Tatt]

1760-1812 Bogø, Mønbo, Præstø - opslag 132

Christen's parents: Peder Kristensen and Maren Mortensdatter.

venlig hilsen Kirsten



Samtlige personer i husstanden

Præstø, Mønbo, Bogø, Nyebye, Gaard, 69, FT-1834, B9341
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Peder Christensen 34  Gift  Gaardmd 
Maren Mortensdatter 49  Gift  hans Kone [Peder Christensen] 
Christen Pedersen 26  Ugift  deres Børn. Søemd [Peder Christensen og Maren Mortensdatter] 
Anders Pedersen 24  Ugift  deres Børn [Peder Christensen og Maren Mortensdatter] 
Ane Marie Pedersdatter 19  Ugift  deres Børn [Peder Christensen og Maren Mortensdatter] 
Else Kirstine Pedersdatter 17  Ugift  deres Børn [Peder Christensen og Maren Mortensdatter] 
Hans Pedersen 15  Ugift  deres Børn [Peder Christensen og Maren Mortensdatter] 
Rasmus Pedersen 12  Ugift  deres Børn [Peder Christensen og Maren Mortensdatter] 
Jens Pedersen 12  Ugift  deres Børn [Peder Christensen og Maren Mortensdatter] 
Niels Pedersen 9  Ugift  deres Børn [Peder Christensen og Maren Mortensdatter] 
 
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[Kirsten Tatt]

- you could contact Bogø Tidende:

http://www.bogoetidende.dk/index.html

About BOGO Journal

BOGO Journal is an Internet-based newspaper for information exchange between the inhabitants on the island.
Besides the usual announcements from associations and the like. Brings a weekly newspaper articles about local events and interesting anecdotes from Bogo long history.
You can find every week 8 new current photos taken by a handful of photographers with a love for their island. During ASSOCIATIONS can see the names and contact phone numbers and addresses of any web pages, and about Bogø give via an interactive map a good overview of the island's attractions and sites.

We welcome your posts and hope to receive a wealth of exciting, funny, quirky and serious expressions of opinion, so the newspaper come alive to visit.

mail@bogoetidende.dk
Kirsten

[Anna Elmhorst]

Jensen & Co.  by Lis B Jensen     Global Tree Clubs  My GenCircles SmartMatching
Christen Sønneberg    
Birth:    July 27, 1808 in Bogo, Bogo Parish Mønbo District, Præstø County
Death:    
Sex:    M
Father:    Christen Christensen Senneberg b. July 1762 in Bogo, Bogo Parish Mønbo District, Præstø County
Mother:    Anne Lisbeth Hendrichsdatter b. 6 Oct 1761 in Bogo, Bogo Parish Mønbo District, Præstø County,
Christening: July 31, 1808 Bogo City, Bogo Parish Mønbo district, Præstø County
Changed: 4 May 2008 13:52


Found this posting by Lis. B. Jensen on GenCircle from 2008.  So someone else has researched him, but I still would like to find those records and verify...  I am going to try an access those records today, now that my partner is back and can help me with the JAVA problem. 

Jane, I did note that Christen Sønneberg (father of Peter, and *hopefully* Christian) was a corporal.  There is a rumor in the Sonderberg family that we are descended from a famous sea captain in Denmark. (This rumor comes from my grandpa, great grandson of Peter Sonderberg)  Seeing all of these boatmen does make me smile.  :-)  I do love the fact that the sea has "flowed through their lives", as you put it.  I've always loved great bodies of water.  In fact, I am now living on the Mississippi river (up in Wisconsin) and can see it flowing outside my window as I type. 

Is it unusual, in the mid-1700's, that Christen uses the name "Sønneberg" instead of a patronymic name?

Maybe that is a question for the pastor in Bogø?

Kirsten, thanks for the link to Bogø Tidende!  That looks very interesting and I would love to see the photographs of the island and learn more about the history.

[Homer Ficken]

 

I would love to see the photographs of the island and learn more about the history.

Some links:

http://www.visitvordingborg.dk/international/en-gb/menu/turist/inspiration/bogoe/bogoe.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog%C3%B8

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Bog%c3%b8+denmark&qpvt=Bog%c3%b8+denmark&FORM=IGRE

[Jane C]

Hi Anna!

Very fun to hear more about the family in New Orleans, earlier, and now as you expand with this story from Denmark. I can visualize you (not in sharp focus) : D with the great Mississippi below you, its current pulling you to the sea captains of your past.

About this: "Found this posting by Lis. B. Jensen on GenCircle from 2008.  So someone else has researched him, but I still would like to find those records and verify..."

Kirsten DID look at the records and posted one. I think Kirsten is saying no such person (Christen as brother to Frederik Christensen) is found in the churchbook. She does find another Christen, Christen Pedersen, born 1808. He is in Nyebye in 1834, and Frederik is too. So maybe that is the Christen who becomes Christen Sonderberg in New Orleans. He still can be a relative. At least a neighbor/friend.

You ask, "Is it unusual, in the mid-1700's, that Christen uses the name 'Sønneberg' instead of a patronymic name?" Seems normal to me.

[Anna Elmhorst]

I just found this record for Christian Sonderberg on ancestry.com.

This would confirm that he is a brother to Frederik Christensen and uncle to Peter Sonderberg... probably the Christian Sonderberg that died in New Orleans in 1866 at "56 years" (per his grave stone)


Denmark Births and Christenings, 1631-1900s about Christen Sonneberg
Name:    Christen Sonneberg
Gender:    Male
Birth Date:    27 jul 1808
Cristening Date:    31 jul 1808
Christening Age:    0
Christening Place:    BOGO, PRAESTO, DENMARK
Father:    Christen Sonnerberg
Mother:    Anne Elisabet Henrichsdr

Source Citation: Bogo; Den Danske Folkekirke (Bogo, Praesto, Denmark), Christening 1760 - 1822, Microfilm nr. 50532

Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Denmark Births and Christenings, 1631-1900s [database on-line].

Could it be that this record has not yet been added to the online database?  I know it is still a work in progress...

[Jane C]

Well, Anna, Ancestry doesn't lie. You solved the riddle - Yeah!
Good ole Uncle Chris probably helped Peter get started in the USA.

[Anna Elmhorst]

I hope so    I am going to continue researching Peter Sonderberg and hopefully dig up some more records to add to the pile of evidence.  I've ordered a look-up of his naturalization records from the public library in New Orleans.  Maybe they will specify where in Denmark he came from?

Thanks for those links Homer.  On the first link was the line "Take a walk in the town of Bogø. Begin at the church. Notice the many sailors' graves in the church yard,­ we are on a sailors' island."  I wonder if any of these people we have been researching could be buried there... I'm going to write to the current pastor and see if there is any way to look that up.

[Jane C]

Hi again Anna,
Sounds like a good plan.

We haven't found the ancestors for Frederik Christensen's wife (Ane Margrethe Christiansdatter).
1850 census says she's born at Damsholte on Møen.
1845 census says she's born at Møen, Stege.
Damsholte is a village near the larger town of Stege. I think that's the place that's meant. (I find the reference a little confusing though, since Damsholte and Stege are also sogns).
Her birth year varies a little in the census data from 1796-1799.

In 1801 I have so far found only one girl with the right name in Mønbo herred.

1801
Præstø, Mønbo, Fanefjord, Dame, , 18, FT-1801, b9310
Christian Michelsen 61 Gift Mand Huusmand med Jord
Kirsten Sindelsdatter 36 Gift hans Kone [Christian Michelsen]
Ane Margrethe Chr:Datter 4 - deres barn [Christian Michelsen og Kirsten Sindelsdatter]

A family with a possible connection (a Sindel Zacariesen) lives in Gammelbye in 1801, where Peter Vilhelm's grandparents (Kristen Kristensen Sønneberg family) also lived in 1801.

Mvh

P.S. My Danish Roots is a good intro to various resources as you continue:
http://mydanishroots.com/home.html

Damsholte church:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damsholte_Church

Bogoe church:
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Bog%C3%B8_Kirke.jpg

[Anna Elmhorst]

Thanks Jane!  I'll look more into that later this week -- right now I'm getting ready to be out of town for a few days for work.  I'll hopefully be back to the research on Thursday.  Thanks for all your help with this.  I really appreciate it and it is more fun to be working on this with someone else.  :-)

Anna

[Kirsten Tatt]

The local historical associaton of Bogø, (Bogø Lokalhistoriske Forening)

Mr Ejler Svan

ejinsvan@hotmail.com


Its aim is to bring together local and family history buffs, both by individual effort, informative lectures, courses, etc. to raise awareness of local history in Bogo and contribute to research. This includes collecting materials about BOGO (google-transl.)

[Lis B. Jensen]

Hi Anna

You can send me a mail - anf i will Provide You with the informations i have. Not all is at gencircles.

[Anna Elmhorst]

 Thanks Lis! 

I would really enjoy looking through your information. 

I tried to find your email on the web page but couldn't figure it out... if you want to send anything to my personal email it is:  anna.mae5@gmail.com

Are you a descendant of Frederik Christensen?

Anna

[Lis B. Jensen]

Hi Anna

Sorry I didn't see Your post before - but now I will send You a Mail with more information.

I am not directly a relative to Friderich - but his sister Maren's one Child Marries into My line.

To get an email adress - Click at the small icons left to the messages.

[Lis B. Jensen]

Hi Anna

Hi Anna

I have found the probate after Friderich Christensen Sønderberg.
www.sa.dk/ao  Click "Andre Arkivalier"  - choose "Skiftearkivalier"  
Select :  Maribo – Herredsfoged – Stubbekøbing Herred
First look at: Skifteprotokol, registreringsprotokol for sognefogderne 1859 – 1917 – lookup 73 and 74
Next look at: Skifteprotokol Stubbekøbing Herred 1869 – 1879 – lookup 246, 267, 268, 407

I have Extractes the names here bolow:
Heirs
 A. Arbm. Hendrik Frederiksen bosiddende i (=living in) St Fransisko
 B. Sønderberg Frederiksen boende i (=Living in) Kjøbenhavn, Muregade?? Nørrebro 3
 C. Hendrik Kehling Frederiksen boende i Valpariso
 D. Peter Vilhelm Frederiksen i Newarleans
 E. Hansine Frederiksen gift med (=married to) Skibsfører (=Shipscaptain) C. F. Eliersen paa (=at) Bogø
 F. Kirstine Frederiksen gift med Tømrer (=Carpenter) L. Hermansen i Stege
 G. Karoline Sofie Frederiksen var gift med Væver (=Weaver) Jensen i
     Ullersløv, Lollands Nørreherred, er ved Døden Afgaaet
     og har efterladt sig en Datter (=is dead and have left a Daugther) Ane Margrete Jensen, 15 Aar (=Years)
Heritage: 397 Kr. 72 Øre.

A Proof of your Relations to Denmark

[Anna Elmhorst]

Thanks Lis!!!

It is so very very exciting to see that document.  Thanks so much for thinking to look for the probate and for sharing it with me. 

I did get your email (I've been away working the past 3 days) and will take some time to look through the information. 

I would be happy to share with you more about my family line.

Will be in touch soon,

Anna

[Lis B. Jensen]

Hi Anna

Thanks for answering.
Glad I can help You. If I find More You will get it.

Look foreward to hear from You again - and please ask if there is anything in my files You do npt understand.