help with Ellis Island

[Lis Nielsen]

I can not get into Ellis Island even though I am a member, and I now have three times tried to get a new password, but it just will not succeed.
Is there someone who will find the surname HYNDING, I know it shows 2 documents but can not be allowed to see them, and would you tell me what is on them so I can move forward, there should be more people, the woman I look after have 5 children. I am not fully aware of all the children traveled to the United States. They traveled via Hamburg, i think, so I can not find them in our DK archive.
Mother named Anna Christina Diederichsen but the children all called Hynding.
Anna and her children immigrated in America after Lauritz (her husband) passed away in 1869.
Anna would be dead in Humboldt County, California but when I do not know.
Mange tak Lis

[Inger Buchard]

I sent you a mail with the files

Inger

[Homer Ficken]

Hi Lis,

The two Hynding's listed by Ellis Island are a Christ 37 who arrived 1892 and a Hans M. 20 who arrived 1903, so not Anna.

Anna listed 1878 as immigration year in the US censuses:

1880 Humboldt County California
Anna Hynding 53 Denmark, Cook
Nick John Hynding 19 Denmark, Laborer

1900 Humboldt County California
John P. Hynding, widow, Jul 1864 Germany, parents born Denmark, to US 1878
Jenny L. Hynding, daughter, Apr 1887 Calif
Annie C. Hynding, mother, Oct 1824 Denmark, to US 1878

1910 Humboldt County California
Elle P. Nisson 65 Denmark, to US 1870
Marie Nisson 56 Denmark, to US 1877
Anna C. Hynding 85 Denmark, to US 1878

This must be Anna and her son:

Hamburg passenger lists, ship Herder, departed 8 May 1878 for New York:
Anna Heynding 40
Joh Heynding 9

New York arrivals, ship Herder, 21 May 1878
Anna Heyding 40 Prussia
Johann Heyding 9 "

Maybe a daughter:
ship Herder, arrived New York from Hamburg 25 Apr 1877
Anna Hynding 20, unmarried, Germany

[Lis Nielsen]

mange tak.....thank you so mutch...

vh lis

[Jane C]

Some more....

Christian Johansen Hynding b April 1844 in Slesvig is in Redwood City, San Mateo, California
to USA 1867
married to
Hansena C. Hynding b about 1841 in Denmark children Andreas, Secilia, Annie (Dagmar later born, married Willim J. Plump)

1880 Bear River and Eagle Prairie, Humboldt, California
Fred Richardson 36
Sarah A. Richardson 30
Willis L. Richardson 15
...more Richardson children...
Jessie Hynding 22 born in Denmark * Dairyman
James Nisson 26 born in Denmark * Dairyman

1888
Jesse Johansen Hynding age 29,
And
John Nicholas Hynding
are registered voters in Santa Cruz, California


1900
Island, (Ferndale), Humboldt, California
Jesse Hynding 41 born June 1858 in Denmark to USA 1874
Matilda Hynding 36 married 1888
Louridge Hynding 10
Hans Hynding 8
Edward Hynding 8
John Hynding 6
Annie Hynding 3

1910
Pacific, Humboldt, California
Jess P. Hynding 51
Matilda Hynding 44
John Hynding 15
Annie Hynding 13

as posted above
1910
Pacific, Humboldt County, California
Elle P. Nisson 65 Denmark, to US 1870
Marie Nisson 56 Denmark, to US 1877
Anna C. Hynding 85 Denmark, to US 1878 widowed, mother-in-law


1920
Eden, Alameda, California
William Bockman 39
Jennie Bockman 32
Harold Bockman 8
John P. Hynding 55 father-in-law widowed to USA 1878

1930
Ferndale, Humboldt, California
J. P. Hynding 65 b Denmark to USA 1877 naturalized USA citizen,, school bus chauffeur
Rosmini Hynding 63 b Denmark

(Find-a-Grave has Rasmine Jansen Hynding 1866-1936 buried in Ferndale Cemetery, Ferndale, Humboldt, California)

1930
San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Anna Doody 33
John W 9
Mary E 8
Mathilda Hynding 65

1930
Eureka, Humboldt, California
Jesse Hynding 71 born about 1859 in Denmark married 41 years came to USA 1874 carpenter, buildings
Hannie Hynding 61 wife born in Minnesota dressmaker


Jesse J. Hynding 1858-1932 buried Myrtle Grove Memorial Cemetery in Eureka, Humboldt, California.

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[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Lis,

This site has a picture of Jesse's grave.  http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Hynding&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=6&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=64774982&df=all&

Med venlig hilsen
Paul

[Jane C]

Found this photo on "Billion Graves."
ANNA HYNDING
1824-1914

This website says Anna Hynding is buried at Ferndale Cemetery.  So is Mathilda Christine Hynding (1867-1891) and as noted above Rasmine Jansen Hynding (1866-1936)


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An Anna Hynding is listed in this book:

St. Mary's Episcopal Church, Ferndale, Calif: Methodist-Episcopal Church, Ferndale, Calif. [and] Danish-Lutheran Church, Ferndale, Calif

If this is "our" Anna, she may be in their cemetery.

Link to the book (which apparently can be purchased):
http://books.google.com/books?id=I9oOGwAACAAJ&dq=inauthor:%22Anna+Hynding%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ybURT_eDAYf9ggevm9XdAw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA

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Also google ALAN A. HYNDING an author who has written some history books about this area of California.

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[Lis Nielsen]

Hi.....

Homer: Johan Hayding looks as he could be Johan Peter Hynding born 9 juli 1864.
            Anna must be Anna Maria Hynding born 4 februar 1854.
            nick must be Johan Nikolaj Hynding born 18 maj 1861
Jane: have no idea who Christian Johansen Hynding b April 1844 in Schleswig is, I currently have
        no one who suits just roughly on the person.
Paul:   
then there is just one child left, I wonder where she is? Johanne Nikoline Petrine Hynding born 28 december 1855
vh lis

[Lis Nielsen]

there is a Mary in 2001 who have posted a note at RootsWeb it seems to be my Hyndings must see if she still "present." I have mail`d her

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS/2001-09/0999578544

Jane the book you mention could well be our Anna, if the link I have found fits.

here is the man who is the father of Alan hynding
http://articles.sfgate.com/2004-04-25/news/17421699_1_girls-club-cypress-lawn-dorothy
lis

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

From the records of Billion Graves it looks as if Anna, Mathilda, and Rasmine are all buried at Ferndale Cemetery, Humboldt County, California.  Here is the address of the cemetery
   
755 Bluff Street
Ferndale, Humboldt, California
United States, 95536

Med venlig hilsen
Paul

[Jane C]

Hi Lis - it could be Christian's name of Johansen Hynding is just a coincidence. I thought you might have him on your larger family tree.

Found on Ancestry.com

Anne Christine Diedrickson (1824 - 1914).  Born in Denmark in 1824. Anne Christine married Lauritz Hynding and had 5 children. She passed away on 14 Nov 1914 in Ferndale, California, USA.
CHILDREN:
Jesse
John
Nick
Nicoline
Anna Marie


Anna Marie Hynding (1854 - 1947) Born in Schleswig-Holst, Denmark on 1854 to Lauritz Hynding and Anne Christine Diedrickson. Anna Marie married Elle Peter Nissen. She passed away on 31 Dec 1947 in Ferndale, California, USA. Anna's spouse = Elle Peter Nissen 1844-1922

No more info on the other children.

http://records.ancestry.com/Anne_Christine_Diedrickson_records.ashx?pid=148740379

[Jane C]

In 1910 there's a Nicolina Symmonds in San Mateo County, California, same place as that Christian Johansen Hynding. She was born in Denmark in 1851 and immigrated 1878. Spouse is Edward Symonds.
(name spelled both ways in the various censuses)

[Jane C]

I'm not finding a marriage record for Nicoline.

More for Marie Hynding Nissen.

1920
Ferndale, Humboldt, California
Elle P. Nisssen 75
Marie Nissen 65

1930
Palo Alto, Santa Clara, California
Christine Cummings 51
Marie E Cummings 21
Helen S Cummings 15
Marie Nisson 76, mother


California Death Index
Name: Marie Nissen
[Marie Hynding] Sex: Female
Birth Date: 4 Feb 1854
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 28 Dec 1947
Death Place: Santa Clara
Mother's Maiden Name: Diericksen
Father's Surname: Hynding

[Jane C]

I don't see Nicolina in 1880 census for Bear River/Eagle Prairie.

The other four children are all here with their mother.

1880
Bear River and Eagle Prairie, Humboldt, California
Peter Elle Nisson 36
Annie M. Nisson 26
Annie C. Nisson 1

as posted before
1880 Bear River and Eagle Prairie, Humboldt, California
Richardson family
Willis L. Richardson 15 oldest son (Nicolina is not here)
Jessie Hynding 22 born in Denmark * Dairyman
James Nisson 26 born in Denmark * Dairyman

1880
Bear River and Eagle Prairie, Humboldt, California
Anna Hynding 53 born Denmark
Nick John Hynding  19 born Denmark

1880
Bear River and Eagle Prarie, Humboldt, California
John P. Hynding  15 born Germany mother born Denmark father born Denmark

[Jane C]

John Hynding (son of Jesse Hynding) registers for the draft (World War I) in
Gonzalez, Monterey, California.
His registration says he was born 24 December 1893 in Ferndale, California.
He is single, a farm laborer.

John's mother is Mathilde. (1900, 1910 census etc) (obviously not the Mathilde who died 1891).

John could be the grandfather to the woman who posted this note online in 1998:
"My great grandmother Mathilde Nielsen Hynding died in Gonzales [in Monterey County, California] on December 11, 1935. Is there anyway I could get her obituary from the newspaper there? Any information you can send me will be greatly appreciated."

Link:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8wv6zE__JbMJ:cagenweb.com/monterey/queryarchives1.shtml+Mathilde+Nielsen+Hynding&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

So there's a living descendant who was working on the family history....



John Hynding b. 1893 died 29 Oct 1975 in Monterey County.

[Jane C]

Lis - thanks for the link to the father of Alan Hynding (Norman). Obit says Norman Hynding is the son of Andrew Hynding. Looks like Andrew is the son of that Christian Johansen Hynding we found earlier. See 1900 census in Redwood City, San Mateo, California (Christian's children Andrew, Cecelia, Dagmar). San Mateo County is also where Andrew Hynding registered for the draft WWI.

[Jane C]

Anna Marie Hynding married Elle Peter Nissen
19 OCT 1877  Eureka, Humboldt, California (per IGI)
and she immigrated April 1877 (as Homer posted).
Thus the mother and other children are likely to have headed straight for Humboldt County, California, when they followed in 1878. So Nicoline, if she came to USA, should most likely be in the area too.
So it's surprising not to find her. Did she maybe stay in Denmark, Lis? I guess you are wondering too...

[Jane C]

I think the records below are Nicoline, and that she was called Lena, maybe Line in Denmark. She is called Lisse in 1880 census in Bear Creek, so that is why we missed her. (Lena and LEE-sa can sound alike).



HYNDING, NICOLINE married 29 Aug 1875 in LIVINGSTON COUNTY, ILLINOIS, U.S.A.  a groom named EDLEF CHRISTENSON.  (Sorted-by-Name website)

CHRISTENSON, EDLEF marries HYNDING, NICOLINE in LIVINGSTON county Illinois
08/29/1875 F /145
SOURCE: Livingston County, Illinois Marriages Up to 1900, Brides D-H
LINK:
http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=292&p=localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.livingston

1880
Bear River, Humboldt, California
Edlef Christensen 33 DAIRYMAN
Lisse Christensen 24
Henry L. Christensen 3 born in Illinois
Laura A. Christensen 1 born in California
Andrew Christensen 31 (brother)

1900
Norway [now Myrtle Point], Coos, Oregon
Edlef Christensen 53
Lena Christensen 44 born DEC 1855 Denmark to USA 1873 married 24 years, 7 children 6 living
Henry L. Christensen 23 born JAN 1877 in Illinois
Laura A. Christensen 2X born in California
Annie C. Christensen 16 b California
Augusta C.. Christensen 11 b California
Lena G. Christensen 16 b California
Edward W. Christensen 8 b Aug 1891 California


1910
Hydesville, Humboldt, California
Edley Christensen 63 born in Denmark farmer to USA 1870
Lena Christensen 59 born in Denmark 7 children 6 living to USA --nothing
Anna Christensen 26
Edward Christensen 18

1918
Edward William Christensen registers for draft WWI, in San Pedro, California.
Says he's born August 7 1890 in Ferndale, [Humboldt], California
He's a fireman.

HYNDING, LENA (mother) , and EDLEF CHRISTENSEN who was born in DENMARK, had a baby EDWARD W CHRISTENSEN born Aug 1891 in CALIFORNIA.  (Sorted-by-name website)

[Jane C]

Henry Louis Christensen age 21 born in Illinois is a dairyman in Ferndale in 1898 (voter registration list).

World War I registration in Forest Grove, Washington County, Oregon
12 September 1918
Born 20 January 1877
Wife Harriet
He's a Mechanic

1920
Hillsboro, Washington, Oregon
Henry L. Christensen 42
Hattie Christensen 37
Frances Christensen 13
Robert Christensen 12
Edlef W. Christensen 10
Kenneth C. Christensen 9

1930
Hillsboro, Washington, Oregon
Henry L. Christensen 53 b Illinois parents b Denmark, machinist in a machine shop
Flemie V. Christensen 37
William E Christensen 21

I was looking for a death record of one of the children to verify Nicoline's maiden name....no luck, but the Ancestry.com record should be enough.

[Lis Nielsen]

Holy..........Jane you have been buzy


I will spend the next couple hours to put everything you have found in the system and that is what has come out of Anna Christine Hynding.


After Laurits was dead Anna came to America, most of her kids are at that time already in America. She uses the name in America Hynding and give up in the censuses that she arrives in the U.S. the 1878th Something Tryde that she traveled with the ship Herder from Hamburg May 8, 1878 and arrived in New York May 21, 1878, she traveled with Johan Peter Hynding nine years. The first time we encounter her in the census 1880 Humbolt County, California, where she works as a chef. In 1900, she lives with John and his daughter and in 1910 she lives with Anna Marie and her husband, it does not look that Anna Christine get married again in America. Anna Christina died in 1914 and is buried in the Danish-Lutheran Church, Ferndale, Calif..

[Lis Nielsen]

Johan Nikolaj Hynding


Johan Nicholas also travel to America. The first time we encounter him in 1880 in the censuses of Bear River and Eagle Prairie, Humboldt, California,Where he calls himself Nick John Hynding and is an laborer. In 1888, he registered to vote in Santa Cruz, California.

[Lis Nielsen]

Jes Johansen Hynding.

Jes Johansen also travel to America. In America, he called himself Jessie Hynding, evidence suggests he traveled to America in 1874. The first time we find him in 1880 in the censuses of Bear River and Eagle Prairie, Humboldt, California. Because he lives with Fred Richardson and his family and works as a dairyman. In 1888, he registered to vote in Santa Cruz, California. In 1900 we find him in the census of Iceland Ferdale, Humbolt, California where he is married to Mathilda Hynding and they have at the time 5 children. In 1910, they still live in Humbolt and still live at home 2 children (John and Annie). In 1930, he is 71 years and resides in Eureka, Humbolt, Califorien together with his wife, who is he Building carpenter. Jes door panel 20 June 1932 and is buried at Myrtle Grove Memorial Cemetery, Eureka, Hombolt, California.

[Lis Nielsen]

Johan Peter Hynding.


Evidence suggests that Johan Peter traveled with his mother to America May 8, 1878 via Hamburg by ship Herder and they arrived in New York May 20, 1878. 1880 he lives in Bear River and Eagle Prairie, Humboldt California.
In 1900 we find him in the census of Humbolt County, California with his daughter and mother. In 1920, he lives with his daughter and her husband in Eden, Alameda, California and there he is a widow. 1930 he is in Ferndale, Humbolt, California with Rosmini Hynding and there he Buschaufør.

[Lis Nielsen]

Anna Marie Hynding


It seems that Anna travels to America by ship Herder from Hamburg on 25 April 1877. 1910 Anna Marie lives with her husband and her mother in Humbolt County, California. 1920 lives in Ferndale, Humboldt, California. 1930 Anna lives in Pale Alto, Santa Clara, California, along with Christine, Marie and Helen Cummings.Anna dies in 1947, Santa Clara, California.

[Lis Nielsen]

I've been looking for a database where I can find all the information you have found. Is there a link i can give me so I can manage.
birth data, 1 world war and so on.....

vh Lis

[Jane C]

Hi Lis - You have written a very good summary of what the team found! I like the way you write it - makes the information "come together."

About sources - Ellis Island did not open until 1892, so to find the earlier immigration record, Homer must have looked at Ancestry.com.

Ancestry.com had all the census records I posted and probably the same for Homer. That's a subscription site (pay to use it). www.ancestry.com It's not too expensive to join if just for a short while.

Ancestry.com lets us see original records for census, immigration, draft registration, and others. It is hard to upload them to DIS-Danmark though.

Ancestry.com doesn't let me see original records for death and birth and marriages. So  only see a transcription of some (not all) of the information on the record. So in that case, the DIS posts for you are the same as what I see on Ancestry. (I don't know if that's true for everyone - because Ancestry has different "levels" of membership.)

Ancestry.com also includes information from people - and that kind of information is not reliable.

Another good site, free, is Family Search:
https://www.familysearch.org/

The IGI record I found - that is International Genealogical Index. Family Search site includes it. This is not reliable information - so we need real records to confirm the information. Here is a link:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=search_all1.asp&clear_form=true

Ancestry.com had the voter registration lists. The Hynding men are listed in more years. I only named one or two years to show they were citizens and voted in America. Women could not vote in the USA at that time.

Ancestry.com had the draft records.

Find a Grave was another source. Below is a link to the burial of Morris Hynding. A Morris Hynding lived in Illinois when Nicoline married Edlef Christensen there, yet this Morris Hynding is buried in California. Maybe you know if he is a cousin or not. It would be interesting to know why Nicoline headed to Illinois.The link:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Hynding&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=6&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=79472632&df=all&

The Sorted-by-Name site - again, not reliable and we need real records to confirm. The link:  http://sortedbyname.com/index.html

Here's a Rootsweb family tree for Anna Marie Hynding/Elle Peter Nissen:
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~banister/wc51/wc51_404.htm

I have the following notes I don't think I gave to you? from Ancestry.com

CALIFORNIA DEATH RECORD
Name: John Peter Hynding
Father: Hynding
Birth: 9 Jul 1864 - Other Country
Death: 26 Sep 1951 - Santa Clara [Santa Clara county, California]

Oregon DEATH RECORD
Name: Jesse Hynding
Spouse: Fannie
Death: 20 Jun 1932 - Umatilla (you have his burial info)

California DEATH RECORD
Name: Marie Nissen
[Marie Hynding]
Father: Hynding
Birth: 4 Feb 1854 - Other Country
Death: 28 Dec 1947 - Santa Clara

In 1882 and 1884 John Nicolai Hynding is a cooper in Redwood City, San Mateo County, California, in 1882 and 1884 (voter list).

In 1888 John Nicolas Hynding and Jesse Johansen Hynding are carpenters in Watsonville, Santa Cruz, California.

19 JAN 1883 Jesse became a US citizen (Humboldt County, California records).
17 FEB 1882 John Nicolas became a US citizen (Humboldt County, California records).

I will see if I can post some Ancestry.com records for you in the forum.

Mvh

[Jane C]

Anna Hynding 1878 immigration

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[Jane C]

Did that work? Can you read it? Usually a small piece of a record is easier to read.


This record is available from the Latter Day Saints (LDS) files. You can order microfilm to see it.
Alameda County, California
24-Apr-1893 (Buried)
J. N. Hynding
Burial at Lone Tree Cemetery
LDS #1033875
Male, single, born about 22-Apr-1861 in Denmark

1920
Ferndale, Humboldt, California
Elle P. Nisssen 75
Marie Nissen 65

1930
Palo Alto, Santa Clara, California
Christine Cummings 51
Marie E Cummings 21
Helen S Cummings 15
Marie Nisson 76, mother

[Jane C]

I cropped the immigration record. (Anna and son are almost at the bottom - three people are below them on the list). Then I resized the image to "blow it up." I don't think this is working very well for you to see. This record is very very hard to see on Ancestry.com.

Here are the questions and the answers on the record:
Name: Anna Heyding
Arrival Date: 21 May 1878
Birth Year: abt 1838
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Prussian (German)
Place of Origin: Prussia
Port of Departure: Hamburg, Germany and Le Havre, France
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Herder


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[Jane C]

About the ship, from Ancestry.com:
Ship Name: Herder
Years in service: 1873-1882
Funnels: 1 ( think this means smokestacks)
Masts: 2
Shipping Line: (a) Adler (Eagle), (b) Hamburg-American
Ship Description:
Built by Alexander Stephen & Son, Ltd., Glasgow, Scotland. Tonnage: 3,494. Dimensions: 375' x 40'. Single-screw, 14 knots. Compound engines. Two masts and one funnel. Iron hull.
History:
Maiden voyage: Hamburg-New York, January 8, 1874. Acquired by Hamburg-American Line in 1875. Wrecked near Cape Race, October 10, 1882, with no loss of life. Running mates: Gellet, Goethe, Lessing, Klopstock, Schiller and Wieland.