Looking for Karl Larsen

[colleen stafford]

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I am looking for information on my Great Grandfather Karl Larsen. Family garden sagde the spelling of Larsen var changed and it Could be Laursen.
I know att han was born about the 1860th Han er two married Mary Hansen. He immigrated To The U.S. in the 1885th He started hans life in Minnesota and just flyttede two Wisconsin.
I know att Mary's mother immigrated two också the U.S. and her name var Mattie Hansen.
Hope somebody can-one help.

[Lissa Pedersen]

Hi Colleen,

I have made a reference to this posting on the other forum.

Have you checked any American censuses and do you have the wedding certificate? .. and do you have any place names - in Denmark? Did the wedding take place in Minnesota?

Lissa

[colleen stafford]

Thank you!

[Lissa Pedersen]

Hi Colleen,

The only one I could find in the Danish emigration database (www.ddd.dda.dk) is:

Name:  Larsen, Carl Occupation:  Tyende (m. by)
Age:  21 Destination:  Alb. Lea, Min.
Contract no.:  122900 Registration date:  5/26/1885
Last res. parish:  København Last res. county:  København
Last residence:  Kbhvn. Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  Albert Lea Destination state:  Minnesota
Name of ship:  Geiser
Remarks:  ANM: Geiser. IDcode:  D8385L2606

Did he go to stay with family and/or friends in Minnesota, and have you tried to find his emigration on Ellis Island?

Lissa

[colleen stafford]

Thanks for your help. I will look into Ellis Island. Possible family in Albert Lea, MN makes some sense because I found my Grandmother, Sena Larsen in the censes there.

I am really lost with this part of the family. 

Another possible clue, my father always said that his mother's family were low danes. Does that make any sense?

[Lissa Pedersen]

Could you give some more info from the census?

Lissa

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Colleen,

I think this is the family in the 1920 census
1920 United States Federal Census about Mrs. Metta Hansen
Name:    Mrs. Metta Hansen
[Mrs. Mattie Hansen]
Age:    82
Birth Year:    abt 1838
Birthplace:    Denmark
Home in 1920:    Luck, Polk, Wisconsin
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
Immigration Year:    1880
Relation to Head of House:    Grandmother
[Granddaughter]
Marital Status:    Widowed
[Widow]
Father's Birthplace:    Denmark
Mother's Birthplace:    Denmark
Able to Read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
Neighbors:    View others on page
Household Members:    
Name    Age
Carl Larsen    61
Mary Larsen    52
Ber* Larsen    19
Soren Larsen    14
Louis Larsen    11
[17]
Metta Hansen    82

The census says that both Carl and Mary emigrated in 1880 and became US citizens in 1899.

mvh
Paul

[colleen stafford]

You have the correct censes information, thank you.  I have that as well. Any way that you could find ancestors further back in Denmark?

Colleen

[Lissa Pedersen]

Paul,

Do you have access to other censuses?

Lissa

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Lissa,

I have access to all the censuses up to and including 1930.

mvh
Paul

[Lissa Pedersen]

Could you perhaps try to find them in other censuses?

Lissa

[colleen stafford]

Name: Mary Larson
[Mary Hansen] 
Census Date: 1 Jun 1905
Residence County: Polk
Residence state: Wisconsin
Locality: Luck
Birth Location: Denmark
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Race: White
Relation: Wife
Mother's Name: Matha M Hansen
Spouse's Name: Carl Larson
Line: 31
Roll: CSUSAWI1905_23
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Carl Larson 46
Mary Larson 35
Laura Larson 17
Myrtle Larson 15
Line Larson 11
Fred Larson 9
Annie Larson 7
Gothart Larson 6
Bertha Larson 5
Matha M Hansen 68

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Family in 1910 census
1910 United States Federal Census about Laura Lawra
Name:    Laura Lawra
[Laura Larsen]
[Laura Larson]
Age in 1910:    19
Birth Year:    1891
Birthplace:    Minnesota
Home in 1910:    Luck, Polk, Wisconsin
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
Relation to Head of House:    Daughter
Marital Status:    Single
Father's Name:    Call Lawra
Father's Birthplace:    Denmark
Mother's Name:    Mary Lawra
Mother's Birthplace:    Denmark
Neighbors:    View others on page
Household Members:    
Name    Age
Call Lawra    51
Mary Lawra    40
Laura Lawra    19
Myrtle Lawra    17
Sing Lawra    16
Fred Lawra    14
Annie Lawra    12
Gandro Lawra    11
Bertha Lawra    9
Soren Lawra    5
Louie Lawra    2

Paul

[Lissa Pedersen]

A marriage license or papers, if Carl was a soldier, would perhaps help?

Lissa

[colleen stafford]

I believe they married in Minnesota, because it appears that Mary Hansen immigrated when she was about 10 years old.

I think that her father's name was Soren Hansen

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hi Colleen,

You might want to contact the Luck Lutheran Church which started as a Danish Evangelical Lutheran Church  http://www.lucklutheran.org/history.html.  They might have records of the Larsen family or tell you where they are located.  I suspect they might hold the key to the family in Denmark.

Sincerely,
Paul

[colleen stafford]

You are good Paul! I know that Carl is buried there.  Many, many years ago I visited the cemetary with my father and found his grave. I went back several years ago and could not find it. I will try to contact them.

Thanks for your efforts!

Colleen

[Lissa Pedersen]

Could you try to find a Soren Hansen and his wife Met? and daughter Mary, b. approx. 1870, in the US 1880 or 1890 census? Could perhaps give a clue. I have found a Søren Hansen, his wife Maren and a son Peter, but no Marie/Mary, emigrating in 1878 from Give, Vejle county .... ? So I guess not the right persons.

Lissa

[colleen stafford]

I just sent an email to the Bone Lake Luthern Church. 

Have you looked at the spelling of Larsen? I always heard that they changed it from Laursen or something like it.

[colleen stafford]

View image Save imageSearch collectionAbout this collectionName: Carl Christian Larson
Titles & Terms: 
Event: Marriage 
Event Date: 24 Aug 1885 
Event Place: Blue Earth, Minnesota 
Age: 26 
Estimated Birth Year: 1859 
Father: 
Father's Titles & Terms: 
Mother: 
Mother's Titles & Terms: 
Spouse: Maren Christine Hansen 
Spouse's Titles & Terms: 
Spouse's Age: 21 
Spouse's Estimated Birth Year: 1864 
Spouse's Father: 
Spouse's Father's Titles & Terms: 
Spouse's Mother: 
Spouse's Mother's Titles & Terms: 
Reference Number: 
Film Number: 1309280 
Digital Folder Number: 4540649 
Image Number: 00604 
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[Homer Ficken]

View image Save imageSearch collectionAbout this collectionName: Carl Christian Larson
Titles & Terms: 
Event: Marriage 
Event Date: 24 Aug 1885 
Event Place: Blue Earth, Minnesota 
Age: 26 
Estimated Birth Year: 1859 
Father: 
Father's Titles & Terms: 
Mother: 
Mother's Titles & Terms: 
Spouse: Maren Christine Hansen 
Spouse's Titles & Terms: 
Spouse's Age: 21 
Spouse's Estimated Birth Year: 1864 
Spouse's Father: 
Spouse's Father's Titles & Terms: 
Spouse's Mother: 
Spouse's Mother's Titles & Terms: 
Reference Number: 
Film Number: 1309280 
Digital Folder Number: 4540649 
Image Number: 00604 

Colleen, I think this is their marriage (see census that follows):

Minnesota, Marriages Index, 1849-1950
Name: Carl Larson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 6 Aug 1887
Marriage Place: St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota
Spouse's Name: Mary Hanson
Spouse Gender: Female

1895 St Paul, Ramsey County, Minn
Carl Larsen 35 Denmark
Mary " 26 Denmark
Laura " 6 Minn
Myrtle " 5 "
Lettie " 3 "
Ansena " 1 "
(Mary's mother not yet listed with them)

The 1905 Wisc. census shows next two children Fred and Anna also born Minnesota, but I can't find the family in 1900 census, Minnesota or Wisconsin.

This may be Karl's burial, but it shows 1862 birth:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=larsen&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=51&GScnty=3040&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=44086161&df=all&

[Lissa Pedersen]

Hi,

I found that burial too but wasn't sure.

Lissa

[Homer Ficken]

This could be Mary's mother:

Name: Hansen, Mette Occupation: Enke
Age: 65 Destination: Minneapolis
Contract no.: 234400 Registration date: 6/25/1901
Birth place: Esbjerg
Last res. parish: LøsningLast res. county: Vejle
Last residence: Stobberup Destination country: USA
Destination city: Minneapolis Destination state: Minnesota
Name of ship: Indirekte
IDcode: I0102H0505

Arrived New York from Southampton on S.S. St Paul, 7 July 1901:
Matta Hansen 65 Denmark, going to son Christian Hansen, Minneapolis

[Homer Ficken]

Carl listed 1880 immigration in 1910-20 censuses, and if 1862 is correct birth date, this may be him:

Name:  Larsen, Carl Occupation:  Bødkersvend
Age:  18 Destination:  New York
Contract no.:  7500 Registration date:  3/8/1880
Last res. parish:  Ringsted Last res. county:  Sorø
Last residence:  Ringsted Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  New York City Destination state:  New York State
Name of ship:  Harald
IDcode:  D7181L1610

(Arrived New York 7 April 1880, listed Cooper as occupation)

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This is probably the daughter Ansena:

Minnesota, Births and Christenings Index, 1840-1980
Name: Hansena Fredricka Larsen
Birth Date:27 Aug 1893
Birth Place:Stillwater, Washington, Minnesota
Gender:Female
Father's Name:Karl Larsen
Mother's Name:Mary Hansen

(Stillwater is near St Paul)

[Lissa Pedersen]

Homer, you write:

Arrived New York from Southampton on S.S. St Paul, 7 July 1901:
Matta Hansen 65 Denmark, going to son Christian Hansen, Minneapolis - isn't he Carl Larsen?

Lissa

[Lissa Pedersen]

There is a Mette Hansen, age 73, widow, travelling in 1910 (Ellis Island). She is from Løsning. Nearest relative son-in-law Rasmus Bie, Stokkerup. Cannot read her destination.

In the 1901 on Arkivalieronline, opslag 247, there is a Rasmus Bie in Stokkerup. His wife is Ane Else Hansen b. 8 Apr 1866, and living with them is Mette Nielsen, born 4 Aug 1836 in ?, Vejle. She is a widow. Ane Else Hansen is born in Jerlev parish, Vejle county, opslag 106.

Lissa

[Homer Ficken]

Homer, you write:

Arrived New York from Southampton on S.S. St Paul, 7 July 1901:
Matta Hansen 65 Denmark, going to son Christian Hansen, Minneapolis - isn't he Carl Larsen?

Lissa

She was Carl's mother in law, not his mother.  If this was her she may have gone first to a son Christian's and joined her daughter Mary Larsen later.

[Lissa Pedersen]

Yes, yes I know ....

Ane Else Hansen's father was Hans Jørgen Hansen and Mette Nielsen.

Probably wrong persons, since no Maren ...

vejle, Jerlev, Jerlev, Meisling By Jerlef Sogn, , et Hus, 2, FT-1880
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Hans Jørgen Hansen 50  Gift Husfader Jordbruger Høker  Eritsø Sogn Veile Amt
Mette Nielsen 43  Gift Hustru  Ødsted Sogn Veile Amt
Anne Else Hansen 13  Ugift Deres Barn  Jerlef Sogn Veile Amt
Niels Chrestensen Hansen 8   Deres Barn  Jerlef Sogn Veile Amt
Rasmine Dorthea Hansen 8   Deres Barn  Jerlef Sogn Veile Amt
Frederik Ferdenandt Hansen 4   Deres Barn  Jerlef Sogn Veile Amt

Lissa

PS: In 1870 same family also has a daughter Johanne Marie Hansen, 8 years old. She is born 30 Aug 1861 in Jerlev parish, opslag No. 98. There is also a son Hans Christensen Hansen, 6 years old.

[Homer Ficken]

PS: In 1870 same family also has a daughter Johanne Marie Hansen, 8 years old. She is born 30 Aug 1861 in Jerlev parish, opslag No. 98. There is also a son Hans Christensen Hansen, 6 years old.

Mary's age in the U.S. censuses indicate she was born 1868-1870, so probably wrong family.

But I think the Matta Hansen 65 I listed 1901 and the Mette Hansen 73 you listed 1910 are the same person:

The second page of the 1910 passenger list indicates she was in U.S. before, 1901-1909 Minneapolis, and says she is joining a cousin Ole Nielsen in Brooklyn.

[colleen stafford]

Hansena Fredirika Larsen was my Grandmother and yes, she was born in Stillwater, MN. So this is correct.  Great work!

Thanks for all of the work!

Colleen