Chris Larsen

[Jane C]

Looking for Lars Jørgensen Fynboe in 1801 census, I found only one Lars Jørgensen of the right age in Hunseby. He has a different wife, not Sophie Knudsdatter. Sophie is so much younger than he is, that certainly she could be a second wife (in 1834). I didn't check the church records.

1801
Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Hunsebye Bye, , 5, FT-1801, b9295
Lars Jørgensen 40 Gift Hosbonde
Anne Madsdatter 33 Gift Madmoder
Jørgen Larsen 11
Maren Larsen, twins 11
Mads 3
Karen 1

This could be Lars and also it could be Anne:
1787
Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Hunseby Bye, Gaard, 5, FT-1787, B4956
Mads Larsen 56 Gift Bonde og Gaardbeboer
Maren Pedersdatter 58 Gift Madmoder
Anna Madsdatter 19 Ugift datter
Lars Jørgensen 26 Ugift Tjenestekarl, Geverbe Dragon
Ebrahim Rasmussen 12 Ugift Tjenestekarl

[John Wrenholt]

Marriage of Lars Jørgensen to Sophie Knudsdatter is 16th of May, 1828.

1814-1833 Hunseby,Musse,Maribo ops 188, last entry.

Marriage of Lars Jørgensen to Ane Madsdatter is 30th of March, 1789.

1735-1814 Hunseby,Musse,Maribo ops 119, 2nd column, 4th item.

[Ruth Becker Morenz]

Thank you John and Jane for this latest information.  I get so confused now with the names and how the children in this line took the father's first name as their last name, etc.  I did not have that with my Becker side in Denmark.  I think that is because they had immigrated to Denmark from Germany but I have not found that yet.

Thanks again for all this info. 

Respectfully,
Ruth Becker Morenz

[Jane C]

Thank you so much John for verifying that.

Below, in 1850 census, could be family of Maren Hansen.
Maren = mother to  Hans Christian Larsen ("Chris Larsen") born 17 January 1887 in Bland, Stokkemarke, Lolland Sønder, Maribo, Denmark.

In the 1880 census posted in the forum, she is Maren Hansen age 32 born in Hunseby Sogn, Maribo Amt. Therefore she's born about 1848, and in 1850 she's about age 2. It all gets confusing - as you say Ruth - that is why I am spelling out the details.

1850 Census
Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Maglemer, 1 Gaard, 151, FT-1850, B9421
Hans Steen 43 Married, Gaardmand, Husfader, born here in this parish
Anne Madsdatter 33, born here in this parish
Jørgen Hansen 15
Poul Hansen 10
Anne Hansdatter 7
Maren Hansdatter 2
plus 4 Tjenestefolk

[Homer Ficken]

Thank you so much John for verifying that.

Below, in 1850 census, could be family of Maren Hansen.
Maren = mother to  Hans Christian Larsen ("Chris Larsen") born 17 January 1887 in Bland, Stokkemarke, Lolland Sønder, Maribo, Denmark.

In the 1880 census posted in the forum, she is Maren Hansen age 32 born in Hunseby Sogn, Maribo Amt. Therefore she's born about 1848, and in 1850 she's about age 2. It all gets confusing - as you say Ruth - that is why I am spelling out the details.

1850 Census
Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Maglemer, 1 Gaard, 151, FT-1850, B9421
Hans Steen 43 Married, Gaardmand, Husfader, born here in this parish
Anne Madsdatter 33, born here in this parish
Jørgen Hansen 15
Poul Hansen 10
Anne Hansdatter 7
Maren Hansdatter 2
plus 4 Tjenestefolk

I believe you just found where the name STEEN came from that Hans Christian Larsen used on the passenger list:  He had added his maternal grandfather's name.

[Jane C]

An online genealogy refers to Hans Steen as Hans Jørgensen Steen 1806-1882
gives his WIFE  as Ane Madsdatter 1815-1884
CHILDREN  
Jørgen 1836
Inger Kirstine 1838
Poul 1840
Ane 1842
Maren 1847

Per this genealogy son Jørgen Hansen (Steen) 1836 married Julie Caroline Larsdatter 1845 and they had children Hans Christian 1880 and Poul Hansen (Steen)

Son Poul Hansen Steen 1840 married Ane Jensdatter (Holtze) 1851
THEIR CHILD  b. Ane Kirstine 1879 If I read the pdf correctly she married Carl Georg Baad and they had children Harald Steen 1897 and Ellen Kirstine 1909

Daughter Maren Hansen, per the online genealogy:

Lars Nielsen (Steen) 1847-1915
married to
Maren Hansdatter 1847-1928
CHILDREN
Inger Sofie 1869 to USA
Hans Peder 1871-77
Karl Anton 1873 to USA
Niels Vilhelm 1875-76
Niels Peder 1877
Hans Vilhelm 1879
Thomas 1882-94
Anna Kathrine 1884
Hans Christian 1887 to USA

[Jane C]

"I believe you just found where the name STEEN came from that Hans Christian Larsen used on the passenger list:  He had added his maternal grandfather's name -- Homer"

Yes! Although I don't see why.

Can you understand why, in my last post, why Lars Nielsen is given the name Steen? It's his wife Maren Hansdatter who is daughter to Hans Steen.

The link - It's a pdf, so I don't know if the link will work:

http://www.hensch.dk/pdf/Stokkemarke%20sogn.pdf
Source:
GREVSKABET KNUTHENBORGS GÅRDE OG HUSE
Brugere og ejere ca. 1750-2000
STOKKEMARKE SOGN
Henning Steen Christensen

[Jane C]

Same source, Henning Steen Christensen genealogy, but for Hunseby Sogn:
http://www.hensch.dk/pdf/Hunseby%20Sogn.pdf

Mads Larsen 1731-1795 MARRIED Maren Pedersdatter 1729-1789
CHILD Anne [Madsdatter] 1768

svigersøn Lars Jørgensen (Fynbo) 1761 (*gyldensteen/fyn)-1845

WIFE 1 Anne Madsdatter 1768-1809
CHILDREN Maren 1790, Jørgen 1790, Mads 1797, Karen 1800

WIFE 2 Ane Sophie Knudsdatter 1785-1852
CHILDREN Hans 1812, Knud 1817, Ane Kathrine 1819

svigersøn Niels Hansen (Fynbo) 1815-1890
WIFE Ane Kathrine Larsdatter 1819-1893
CHILDREN Frederikke Margrethe 1845, Lars 1847, Hans Peder 1848, Knud 1849, Ane Sofie 1852-1900 ug, Maren Kirstine 1854, Peder Christian 1858

So the line of ancestors goes:
Chris Larsen in Illinois (= Hans Christian Larsen b 1887 Blands, Denmark)
His father Lars Nielsen
Lars Nielsen's mother Ane Kathrine Larsdatter 1819-1893
Her father Lars Jørgensen Fynbo

[Jane C]

These documents from Henning Steen Christensen are long and complex - and written in Danish - I haven't stopped to figure them out but looks like transcriptions of original records (land ownership)?

Perhaps some other kind soul who reads Danish can learn more from them?

And I am interested to hear about that.

His home page:
http://hensch.dk/

[Jane C]

Previous post (to help make the thread clear): Marriage of Lars Jørgensen to Sophie Knudsdatter 16 May 1828. (1814-1833 Hunseby, Musse, Maribo ops 188, last entry)

This Lars = Lars Jørgensen Fynboe

This couple in 1834, as previously posted:
Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Hunsebye, Gaard, 63, FT-1834, B9326
Lars Jørgensen Fyenboe 74 Gift Gaardmand
Sophie Knudsdatter 50 Hans kone [so born about 1786]
Hans Larsen 22 Ugift deres Børn
Knud Larsen 16 Ugift deres Børn
Katrine Larsdatter 15 Ugift deres Børn
Karen Hansdatter 9 Ugift Pleiebarn

In the 1840 census Sophie Knudsdatter is married to Hans Jørgen Fynbo rather than to Lars. Yet in the 1845 census (as previously posted) she is with Lars. So may be a transcription error at ddd.dda.dk
  .
1840 census:
Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Hunseby, Gaard, 18, FT-1840, B8943
Hans Jørgen Fynbo 72 gift gaardmand
Anne Sophie Knudsdatter 58 gift hans kone
Ane Chathrine Larsdatter 25 deres datter
Hans Larsen 29 Gift Bestyrer gaarden, Indsidder [= son to Sophie Knudsdatter, brother to Ane Chathrine]
Ane Kirstine Rasmusdatter 25 Gift hans kone
Knud Hansen 2 ugift deres barn

1845
maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Hunseby, , en gaard, 46.36, FT-1845
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Niels Hansen 30  Gift  gaardmand (farmer) Vaabensted
Catterine Larsdatter 26  Gift  hans kone (his wife) Hunseby
Lars Fynbo 83  Gift  hans svigerfader (his father-in-law), aftægtsmand Fyen
Sophie Knudsdatter 62  Gift  hans kone (his wife)Vaabensted
Christopher Jensen 29  Ugift  tjenestekarl Utterslev

1850
Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Hunseby By, en Gaard, 58, FT-1850, B9421
Niels Hansen 36
Catrine Larsdatter 30
Frederikke Nielsdatter 6
Lars Nielsen 4
Hans Nielsen 2
Knud Nielsen 1
Sophie Knudsdatter 68 Enke Svigermoder, som der forsørges born in Vaabensted s. [Maribo amt]
+ tienesfolk

HCS says Sophie died 1852.

I haven't found her parents.

[Ruth Becker Morenz]

Oh my gosh.  I don't know what to say to all of you that have found so much for me.  Thank you just isn't enough.  I will have to write this down very carefully so I don't get everyone confused and/or in the wrong family.

Jane, Home and John,
Thank you for this latest info.  You are all amazing to say the least.

ETERNALLY GRATEFUL,
Ruth

[John Wrenholt]

If Ane Sophie Knudsdatter was born 1785 in Våbensted, then I think her birth record is found:

1784-1814 Våbensted, Musse, Maribo ops 3, 4th item in 2nd column.

Her parents would be Knud Jacobsen & Kirstine Hansdatter. You can confirm by looking at 1787 census data.

Most likely Knud Jacobsen was born in 1740 and birth record is found:

1734-1784 Våbensted, Musse, Maribo  ops 11, first item in 3rd column.

[Ruth Becker Morenz]

John,

Simply amazing and so very exciting!

Respectfully,
Ruth

[Jane C]

Yeah! Thank you John! I think I'm almost as excited as Ruth.  
So Ane Sophie Knudsdatter's family is found in 1787 here:

1787
Maribo, Musse, Vaabensted, Kraarup Bye, , 62, FT-1787, B9288
Knud Jacobsen 48 Gift Hosbonde, Bonde og Gaardbeb
Kirsten Hansdatter 42 Gift
Karen Knudsdatter 16 deres Børn af sidste egteskab
Ingeborre Knudsdatter 15 deres Børn af sidste egteskab
Dorte Knudsdatter 11 deres Børn af sidste egteskab [must be twins]
Jacob Knudsen 11 deres Børn af sidste egteskab
Hans Knudsen 8 deres Børn af sidste egteskab
Lars Knudsen 7 deres Børn af sidste egteskab
Anne Knudsdatter 2 deres Børn af sidste egteskab = Anne Sophie Knudsdatter wife #2 to Lars Jørgensen Fynbo
Maren Knudsdatter 1 deres Børn af sidste egteskab

So apparently there is an error in the census or the transcription - presuming this is the same Kirsten Hansdatter who is mother to Ane Sophie.

*********************************************************************

On another subject - I've looked at Gyldensteen Gods on Fyn on internet - is this an estate/manor to which Lars Jørgensen (Fynbo) was born? (b. 1761 in gyldensteen/fyn -1845 in probably Hunsey, Musse, Maribo - per HSC) Why/how did Lars come to the island of Lolland?

And since Lars is "svigersøn" to Mads Larsen 1731-1795 (per HSC), then am I reading it right that he is inheriting a farm from his father-in-law, since he has married Mads Larsen's daughter Anne Madsdatter?

[Jane C]

Apparently another name for Knud Jacobsen is Knud Sømod; as that is the name by which his enke (widow) is called in 1801:

1801
Maribo, Musse, Vaabensted, Kraarup Bye, , 74, FT-1801, b9304
Knud Sømods Enke 57 Huusmoder
Dorte Knudsdatter 25 hendes Døttre
Hans Knudsdatter 24 hendes Søn
Maren Knudsdatter 15 hendes Døttre
Kistine Nielsdatter 9 Datter Datter (granddaughter)
Jørgen Friderichsen - tieneskarl

Find this family here:
http://www.familyaffairs.nl/UK/OurAncestors/StrygerJensen.html
Knud Jacobsen Sømod, born on 27 Dec 1739 in Våbensted, he died on 4 Aug 1797. He was married with
Kirsten Hansdatter, born about 1745, she died in 1824.

As for the identifier "Sømod," any one know what that is? Gramtrans translates as "sea-courage." Seems to me it is "seaman/sailor"?

[Jane C]

This could be Sophie:

1801
Maribo, Musse, Vaabensted, Kraarup Bye, , 58, FT-1801, b9304
Niels Jørgensen 34 Gift Huusbonde Bonde og Gaardbeboer
Karen Knudsdatter 31 Gift hans kone
Dorte Nielsdatter 6 Ugift Deres Børn
Anne Nielsdatter 4 Ugift Deres Børn
Knud Nielsen 2 Ugift Deres Børn
Jens Jørgensen 26 Ugift tienestekarl
Sophie Knudsdatter 17 Ugift tienestepige

According to this link -

http://www.familyaffairs.nl/UK/OurAncestors/StrygerJensen.html

- Sophie's sister Karen Knudsdatter (1770-1803) married a Niels Mortensen Bagger, but one wonders, because this certainly looks like Sophie's sister Karen.

[Jane C]

1801
Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Hunsebye Bye, , 26, FT-1801, b9295
Peder Rasmussen and Maren Sørensdatter family....plus
Sophie Knudsdatter 12 Tienestefolk

So this earlier post is wrong - NOT our Sophie

[Ruth Becker Morenz]

Thank you Jane for your continual search.  I am at work right now and cannot do anything but respond, no research.  Will get back on it when I get home.

THANK YOU!
RUTH

[Jane C]

I've gotta go too - but I am curious to check back later and see if John or Homer or anyone answered:

Is Gyldensteen Gods on Fyn an estate/manor to which Lars Jørgensen (Fynbo) was born? (Henning Steen Christensen info has him born 1761 in gyldensteen/fyn.

This place would be in Odense amount I think - on the northern coast of the island of Fyn.

Why/how did Lars come to the island of Lolland?

Lars married Anne Madsdatter, and became son-in-law to Mads Larsen 1731-1795 (per HSC), then am I reading it right that Lars inherited Mads Larsen's farm or copyhold or...?

I'm pretty sure I don't have enough sleuthing skills to answer my own questions...

"Gyldensteen, about 5 km east of Bogense on the island of Funen, was built in the year 1640. The main building with it's curved gables and moats is really quite well preserved. The castle is a quadrangular building with a Renaissance main wing from 1640 and later additions framed a courtyard."

[John Wrenholt]

Here's the 1787 census data showing who's living at Gyldensteen.  It's interesting to find a Lars Jorgensen listed but I don't see conclusive proof that he's the Lars we're searching for.

Odense, Skovby, Nørre Sandager, Hovedgaarden Gyldensteen, , , F 1, FT 1787

Johan Henrich von Knuth 40  g Herre Greve til Grevskabet Gyldensteen.Kammerherre og Ridder.Envoye ved det Cuur ?? 
Constantia Alexandrina fød Comtesse af Cofell 36  g Frue   
Constantia Frideriche Henriette 15  u Deres barn - 
Isidore Margarethe 14  - Deres barn - 
Frideriche Christiane 10  - Deres barn - 
Lovise Charlotte 8  - Deres barn - 
- -  - - - 
Thomas Ole Brandt 43  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Avlings Forvalter. 
Malene Kiærulv 61  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Huusholderske i Hollænderiet. 
Mette Marie Madsdatter 28  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Mejerske. 
Ingeborg Rasmusdatter 20  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. KokkePige. 
Marie Larsdatter 25  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. BryggePige. 
Ane Dorothea Pedersdatter 24  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Malkepige. 
Catrine Pedersdatter 22  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Malkepige. 
Mette Pedersdatter 33  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Malkepige. 
Ane Jensdatter 31  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Malkepige. 
Ane Nielsdatter 24  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Malkepige. 
Giertrud Ibsdatter 23  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Malkepige. 
Jørgen Larsen Friis 26  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Ladefoged. 
Mads Larsen 36  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Ladekarl. 
Anders Rasmussen 22  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Humle Planteur. 
Christen Hansen 20  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Hauge Karl. 
Ole Jensen 36  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Muurmester. 
Anders Nielsen 25  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Staldkarl. 
Niels Nielsen 26  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Staldkarl. 
Knud Friderichsen 23  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Staldkarl. 
Hans Pedersen 26  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Staldkarl. 
Lars Jørgensen 22  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Staldkarl.  -------------------------------------------->>>
Lars Larsen 32  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Staldkarl. 
Hans Hansen Fyhr 26  u - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Røgter. 
Hans Hansen 50  e - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Røgter. 
Jens Larsen 45  g - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Røgter. 
Martin Willer 40  e - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Cuur Smed. 
Sophie Dorothea Handatter 49  - - I Hr. Grevens Tieneste. Stue Pige.

[Jane C]

Fascinating to see that Gyldensteen census! At the estate of Johan Henrich von Knuth, Herre Greve til Grevskabet Gyldensteen.

Now here's a rambling post - sorry it is so long - just info I don't understand.

Henning Steen Christensen's data is titled "GREVSKABET KNUTHENBORGS GÅRDE OG HUSE." Knuthenborg is on the island of Lolland near Sakskøbing, but perhaps was connected with the family or ownership of Gyldensteen?

HSC states that Grevskabet Knuthenborg's area included at one time Hunseby, Bandholm, Østofte, Hillested and Stokkemarke parishes (with some exceptions at the margins of these parishes). So perhaps the same family has estate lands both on Fyn and on Lolland...? Probably the Danes in the forum versed in Danish history know the answer or can come by it readily (perhaps in HSC's website itself - wish I read Danish!). Anyway, would that make it possible that Lars Jorgensen Fynbo got "transferred"?

HSC further states "In 1997 I retired, and then I could realize an old dream of writing a list of users of properties under Grevskabet KNUTHENBORG that existed as an administrative unit from 1715 to 1924."

About Lars Jorgensen Fynbo in 1787 census: Belatedly, I'm now realizing that "our" Lars in 1787 is more likely the Lars at the home of Mads Larsen in Hunseby Bye (see census posted above) since wife #1 of Lars Jorgensen Fynbo is Anne Madsdatter, and Anne's father is Mads Larsen born 1731.

[Ruth Becker Morenz]

John and Jane,

Oh my gosh.  Where are you finding all of this.  I'm still back with the family in the 1840's trying to get my head around who is who.  You are amazing.  I know I will have questions about some of these names because they are all starting to run into one another for me.  Can I let you know if I have a problem deciphering all of this??

Ruth

[Jane C]

Hi Ruth - of course someone here will help if you have questions! I ask a lot of questions and the forum is so helpful.

[Jane C]

Some Census Info re. the Hans Jorgensen (Steen) family.
At bottom I added info to show the line from Chris Larsen back in time - since, as you say Ruth, it all gets confusing.

1834
Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Maglemer Bye, en Gaard, 153, FT-1834, B9326
Mads Christensen 50 Enkemand Gdmd
Ane Madsdatter 19 hans datter [born about 1815]
Hans Jørgensen 28 Ugift Tjenestefolk [born about 1806]
Hans Andersen 29 Ugift Tjenestefolk
Karen Jensdatter 25 Ugift Tjenestefolk

1840
Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Maglemer, 45, Gaard, 141, FT-1840, B8943
Hans Jørgensen 34 Gift gaardfæster
Ane Madsdatter 25 Gift hans kone
Jørgen Hansen 4 deres barn
Inger Hansdatter 2 deres barn
+ three Tjenestefolk

1845
Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Maglemer By, en gaard, 107.12, FT-1845, B8340
Hans Jørgensen 38 Gift gaardmand born in Hunseby
Anne Madsdatter 29 Gift hans kone
Jørgen Hansen 9
Inger Hansdatter 7
Poul Hansen 5
Anne Hansdatter 3
4 Tienesfolk

1850 (as previously posted)
Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Maglemer, 1 Gaard, 151, FT-1850, B9421
Hans Steen 43 Married, Gaardmand, Husfader, born here in this parish
Anne Madsdatter 33, born here in this parish
Jørgen Hansen 15
Poul Hansen 10
Anne Hansdatter 7
Maren Hansdatter age 2 (= mom of Hans Christian Larsen b. 1887 who went to USA)
plus 4 Tjenestefolk

Birth, marriage notes for Hans Jorgensen (Steen) family,
mostly from Susan Steen Mogensen (SSM) website:

Anna Thomasdatter married Jorgen Hansen 28 Dec 1803 in Hunseby per SSM.
Jørgen Hansen born in Østofte, Maribo.
Anna Thomasdatter born 1771 in Hunseby.
Their son = Hans Jørgensen (Steen) b 1806.

Hans Jørgensen b 1806 in Hunseby (son of Jorgen Hansen and Anna Thomasdatter). Christened at home 03 Oct 1806 and in church 23 Nov 1806, Hunseby Kirke.
He married Anne Madsdatter on 13 Jun 1835 in Hunseby kirke. Anne Madsdatter was born about 1815; her father is Mads Christensen b abt 1784 per 1834 census, above.

Hans Jørgensen b. 1806 in Hunseby
 + Anne Madsdatter b. 1815 in Hunseby
        Their daughter Maren Hansen b. 1847
             + Lars Nielsen (Steen) b. 1847
                    Their son Hans Christian Larsen b 1887 immigrated to Illinois, USA

[Jane C]

Remember in the birth record for Hans Christian Larsen b. 1887, that his father was called parcellist Lars Nielsen? I wish I understood all this...but I think families in this area are leasing or have purchased land carved out of the estates owned by the aristocratic Knuth family.

Ruth, I'm sure that genealogist online, Henning Steen Christensen, could explain. Unless some kind soul in the forum steps in.

A link that shows the lineage of the greves (count/countesses) at Knuthenborg:

http://www.roskildehistorie.dk/stamtavler/adel/Knuth/Knuth.htm

This link shows that Eggert Christopher, Greve Knuth-Knuthenborg, was Greve of Knuthenborg (in Hunseby on the island of Falster), Lerchenfeldt, Ravnstrup, and Greve of Gyldensten (on the island of Fyn). He lived 1722-1766. Lars Jorgensen Fynbo was born about 1760, wasn't he?

Henning Steen Christensen states, on his website, that Lars Jorgensen Fynbo was born at Gyldensten on Fyn. So there is a connection between Gyldensten on Fyn and the parish Hunseby on Falster. I still don't get why Lars moved from the one place to the other.

Perhaps some answer is found in these Salmonsens entries - one about the family Knuth and one about Knuthenborg Hovedgard in Hunseby: "Salmonsens store illustrerede konversationsleksikon: en nordisk encyklopædia..." edited by Johan Christian Blangstrup, Jens Braage Halvorsen, Karl Kristian Emil Fischer pages 687-688

http://books.google.com/books?id=rZAXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA687&lpg=PA687&dq=Knuthenborg+Hovedgaard&source=bl&ots=8zw22jop0u&sig=Rbg-L9MZFP7mIzezg9UIGsPOOIQ&hl=en&ei=-_bDTvXQE_HFsQKbkpCvCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&sqi=2&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Knuthenborg%20Hovedgaard&f=false

The census at Knuthenborg 1840, 1845 (I didn't find any others). Posting this to show that Knuthenborg is in Hunseby sogn:

1845 Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Hunseby, Knuthenborg Hovedgaard, 1, FT-1845, B8340
Frederich Marcus Knuth 33 Gift kammerherrer, lehnsgreve, besidder af grevskabet Knuthenborg
Karen Knuth 30 Gift hans kone København
.....together with a large household

1840 Maribo, Musse, Hunseby, Knuthenborg, Hovedgaard, 1, FT-1840, B8943
Frederik Marcus Greve af Knuth 28 GIft Besidder af Grevskabet Knuthenborg
Karen Grevinde af Knuth 25 Gift hans kone
...together with a large household

[Jane C]

oops

[Ruth Becker Morenz]

Jane,

You are amazing.  I am in awe of everything you have given me.  This is so much more than I ever hoped for.  THANK YOU.

Ruth