Hans Christian Juul, Præstø, Mern - Children emigration - where did they go?

Startet af Lis B. Jensen, 10 Nov 2011 - 12:50

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Homer Ficken

Here is Niels, buried in the same cemetery as his sister Christine:

Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths Index, 1916-1947
Name:Niels Hanson
Birth Date:1 Dec 1863
Birth Place:Denmark
Death Date:8 Aug 1934
Death Place:Wood River, Madison, Illinois
Burial Date:10 Aug 1934
Burial Place:St. Louis, St. Louis, MO
Cemetery Name:New St. Marcus
Death Age:70
Occupation:Teamster, General Hawling
Race:White
Marital Status:M
Gender:Male
Residence:Lebanon, Ill
Father Name:Costine Hanson
Father Birth Place:Denmark
Mother Name:Marie Nielson
Mother Birth Place:Denmark
Spouse Name:Ella Hanson

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1930 census Lebanon, St Clair County, Illinois:
Nielson Hanson 66 Denmark, age at first marriage 60 (1924?)
Ella Hanson 63 Indiana, age at first marriage 17 (so Niels married a widow in his old age)

Location:  Texas USA
Areas of interest:  Tønder county,  Brede, Daler, and Visby parishes
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=-skow-

Homer Ficken

Here is Niels' widow, maiden name Barnes:

Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths Index, 1916-1947
about Ella Hanson Name: Ella Hanson
[Ella Barnes] 
Birth Date: 25 Oct 1866
Birth Place: Clarkbury, Indiana
Death Date: 13 Aug 1936
Death Place: Lebanon, St Clair, Illinois
Burial Date: 15 Aug 1936
Burial Place: Lebanon, St. Clair, Illinois
Cemetery Name: College Hill
Death Age: 69
Occupation: Housewife
Race: White
Marital Status: W
Gender: Female
Residence: Lebanon, St. Clair, Illinois
Father Name: Barnes
Spouse Name: Nells Hansen
Comments: 2 yrs at this place

Location:  Texas USA
Areas of interest:  Tønder county,  Brede, Daler, and Visby parishes
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=-skow-

Homer Ficken

Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths Index, 1916-1947
Name: Christian Julius Hanson
Birth Date: abt 1862
Death Date: 15 Apr 1940
Death Place: St Jacob, Madison, Illinois, United States
Death Age: 78
Gender: Male
Father Name: Christ Hanson
Spouse Name: Arra Townsend Hanson

Location:  Texas USA
Areas of interest:  Tønder county,  Brede, Daler, and Visby parishes
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=-skow-

Lis B. Jensen

Hi Homer

You are so Gourdious - thanks for these two informations
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Lis B. Jensen

Hi Homer

Now I am confused
In Another link from find a grave - that You placed -  it says something else or is it because i don't understand?
However - Thanks
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Homer Ficken

Citat fra: Lis B. Jensen Dato 07 Dec 2011 - 22:48
Hi Homer

Now I am confused
In Another link from find a grave - that You placed -  it says something else or is it because i don't understand?
However - Thanks

Christian's death record does not list his burial place and residence as Niels' record did:

He and Niels both died in Madison County, Illinois for some reason, but Niels was buried in St Louis and Christian in Lebanon.

Madison County adjoins St Clair County; maybe they died in a hospital there.
Location:  Texas USA
Areas of interest:  Tønder county,  Brede, Daler, and Visby parishes
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=-skow-

Lis B. Jensen

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Line Thorngaard

Hi Lis,

This is could be Anna Hansen's marriage in Amerika:

Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index, 1871-1920 about Annie Hanson
Name: Annie Hanson
Age: 24
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1860
Birth Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Marriage Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 22 Nov 1884
Spouse Name: Thomas E. Lindley
Spouse Age: 46
Spouse Gender: Male
Spouse Birth Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
FHL Film Number: 1030143

According to churchbook 1892-1905 Mern, Baarse, Præstø, look up 148, she was married to Thomas Eduard Lindley in St. Louis, Missouri, but they were divorced in 1890.

Here is Jens Juul Hansen's death:

Montgomery County, Missouri Deaths 1898-1952 about John J. Hanson
Name: John J. Hanson
Age or Birth Date: 7 Jan 1866 * st
Death Date: 23 Feb 1903
Issue Date: 13 Mar 1903

Best regards,
Line Thorngaard

Lis B. Jensen

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Lis B. Jensen

Hi

While i was reading the probate for the parents i found out they had a halfsister Anna Kirstine Hansen married to Hans Hansen Sioux Fall, Montcalm County, Michigan - She is dead 19/4-1901 in Sioux Fall and she probably emigrated abt. 1881. Unitill now ske was unknown to me. They had 4 children. Can anyone help me finding them - and maybe her deathrecord.
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Homer Ficken

Citat fra: Lis B. Jensen Dato 09 Dec 2011 - 21:27
Hi

While i was reading the probate for the parents i found out they had a halfsister Anna Kirstine Hansen married to Hans Hansen Sioux Fall, Montcalm County, Michigan - She is dead 19/4-1901 in Sioux Fall and she probably emigrated abt. 1881. Unitill now ske was unknown to me. They had 4 children. Can anyone help me finding them - and maybe her deathrecord.

Michigan, Deaths and Burials Index, 1867-1995
Name: Christine Hansen
Birth Date: abt 1851
Birth Place: Denmark
Death Date: 19 Apr 1901
Death Place: Belvidere, Montcalm, Michigan
Death Age: 50
Occupation: Housewife
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Female
Father Name: Hans Hansen

Her grave:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=hans&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSdy=1901&GSdyrel=in&GSst=24&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=45298039&df=all&

1900 Belvidere Townshio, Montcalm County Michigan
Hance Hancen, Aug 1852 Denmark, married 24 years, to US 1880
Annie K Hancen, Jul 1850 Denmark, 9 children, 4 living, to US 1880
Emma Hancen, Apr 1887 Mich
Hannah Hancen, Jan 1889 Mich
Mary Hancen, Jun 1891 Mich

Hans remarried:

1910 Belvidere Townshio, Montcalm County Michigan
Hans Hansen 57 Denmark, 2nd marriage, 5 years, to US 1882
Ellen Hansen 36 Denmark, to US 1891
Astriod Hansen 2 Mich, daughter
Location:  Texas USA
Areas of interest:  Tønder county,  Brede, Daler, and Visby parishes
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Homer Ficken

Here is their emigration registration:

Name:  Hansen, Hans Occupation:  Arbejder
Age:  28 Destination:  Greenville, Mich.
Contract no.:  113200 Registration date:  4/7/1881
Last res. parish:  Mern Last res. county:  Præstø
Last residence:  Sageby, Præstø Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  Greenville Destination state:  Michigan
Name of ship:  Indirekte

Name:  Hansen, Anna Christine Occupation:  Hustru
Age:  30 Destination:  Greenville, Mich.
Contract no.:  113200 Registration date:  4/7/1881
Last res. parish:  Mern Last res. county:  Præstø
Last residence:  Sageby, Præstø Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  Greenville Destination state:  Michigan

Name of ship:  Indirekte Name:  Hansen, Hans Chr. Occupation:  Barn
Age:  04 Destination:  Greenville, Mich.
Contract no.:  113200 Registration date:  4/7/1881
Last res. parish:  Mern Last res. county:  Præstø
Last residence:  Sageby, Præstø Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  Greenville Destination state:  Michigan

Name:  Hansen, Ane Christine Occupation:  Barn
Age:  00 1/2 Destination:  Greenville, Mich.
Contract no.:  113200 Registration date:  4/7/1881
Last res. parish:  Mern Last res. county:  Præstø
Last residence:  Sageby, Præstø Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  Greenville Destination state:  Michigan

They arrived New York 22 April 1881 on ship 'City of Brussels' (listed erroneously as Swedish)

Greenville is in Montcalm County

Location:  Texas USA
Areas of interest:  Tønder county,  Brede, Daler, and Visby parishes
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=-skow-

Lis B. Jensen

Hi Homer

Thanks - I Will have to look more at these two people - which are quite new information for me.
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Line Thorngaard

Hi Lis,

This is possible Ane Christine Hansen:

1900 United States Federal Census about Christene Hansen
Name: Christene Hansen
[Christine Hansen] 
Age: 19
Birth Date: Jul 1880
Birthplace: Denmark
Home in 1900: Home, Montcalm, Michigan
[Edmore, Montcalm, Michigan] 
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Servant
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Denmark
Mother's Birthplace: Denmark
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Druar 42
Nettie A Druar 37
Neva L Druar 10
Christene Hansen 19

Best regards,
Line Thorngaard

Line Thorngaard

Hi Lis,

This could be Hans Chr. Hansen:

Michigan, Deaths and Burials Index, 1867-1995 about Hans C. Hansen
Name: Hans C. Hansen
Birth Date: 23 Sep 1876
Birth Place: Denmark
Death Date: 27 Jun 1955
Death Place: Centerville, St.Joseph Co., Mich.
Death Age: 78
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Male
Father Name: Hans Hansen
Spouse Name: Euphemia Hansen
FHL Film Number: 1940445

Churchbook 1859-1878 Mern, Bårse, Præstø, look up 41,
Hans Christian Hansen
born 23 September 1876.

1930 United States Federal Census about Hanse C Hansen
Name: Hanse C Hansen
Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Denmark
Home in 1930: Sturgis, St Joseph, Michigan
View Map
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Euphenia E Hansen
Occupation:
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page  
Household Members: Name Age
Hanse C Hansen 53 
Euphenia E Hansen 45
Marvin Bonnett 79 - Mother-in-Law

Year of immigration: 1883.

Best regards,
Line Thorngaard

Lis B. Jensen

Hi Line

Thanks - I will see if I can find more information abt the birth.
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Homer Ficken

Is the entry a mistake or did they change her name?

Mern 1879-1891 opslag 35 no. 10, Maren Kirstine Hansen born 9 Sept 1880,
parents Hans Hansen and Ane Kirstine Hansen 30
(same parents as Hans C. born 1876)

Also, in the 1900 census Ane Kirstine listed that she was mother of 9 children, but only 4 living:
Daughters Emma, Hannah, and Mary are listed with them and Line has found the son Hans C. so this would mean Anna (Maren?) born 1880 had died before 1900.

There must have been other children stillborn or who died young.
Location:  Texas USA
Areas of interest:  Tønder county,  Brede, Daler, and Visby parishes
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=-skow-

Lis B. Jensen

Hi Homer

I have looked through the records  - and more informations indicates that Maren is the child related to the family. I Think they have changed the name or the person that have transcribed these informations have misread them - how to find out I don't know for now.

I Think maybe some of the kids are dead - but i havent looked in Census 1890 how many children they had then.

By the way - whaich dates are these Census made?
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Homer Ficken

Here is one of those who died:

Maren Kirstine Hansen born 7 Oct 1877 - died 14 Feb 1878
(Mern 1859-1878, opslags 103 and 239)

So Maren Kirstine born Sept 1880 was named for her, and they must have changed her name to Ane at time of emigration.

The U.S. censuses were taken in June or later, and the 1900 census of the "Hance Hancen" family was taken 22 June.

The 1900 census that Line listed for a Christene Hansen born July 1880 was taken June 29th, so she was a different person.  There were many Hansen's in Montcalm County.
Location:  Texas USA
Areas of interest:  Tønder county,  Brede, Daler, and Visby parishes
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=-skow-

Homer Ficken

Citat fra: Lis B. Jensen Dato 10 Dec 2011 - 14:51
I Think maybe some of the kids are dead - but i havent looked in Census 1890 how many children they had then.

They had emigrated and would not be in the 1890 Danish census, and the 1890 U.S. census was destroyed.
Location:  Texas USA
Areas of interest:  Tønder county,  Brede, Daler, and Visby parishes
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=-skow-

Line Thorngaard

Hi Lis,

Hans Christian Hansen's wife:

Michigan, Deaths and Burials Index, 1867-1995 about Euphemia E. Hansen
Name: Euphemia E. Hansen
[Euphemia E. Bonnette] 
Birth Date: 31 Oct 1884
Birth Place: Mich
Death Date: 19 Mar 1963
Death Place: Sturgis, St Joseph Co., Mich
Death Age: 76
Race: White
Marital Status: Widowed
Gender: Female
Father Name: Thomas E. Bonnette
Mother Name: Mary Ann Bonn
Spouse Name: Hans C. Hansen
FHL Film Number: 1940451

Best regards,
Line Thorngaard

Lis B. Jensen

Hi Homer

Thanks for listing the dates of Census - and the informations abt Census 1890 US. I am aware that they not are in Denmark 1890.
Also the information abt. 1900 Census with is valuable informations.
I Know there are lots og Hansen in Michigan . and maybe allover America - so we have to be very careful. I have written a frien in Michigan if he knows if anyone have relation to this family - he is self a Hansen - and very proud of his danish heritage.

In Denmark the next child was named as the dead one when the newborn had same gender.

Lis
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Homer Ficken

Citat fra: Homer Ficken Dato 09 Dec 2011 - 23:22
1900 Belvidere Townshio, Montcalm County Michigan
Hance Hancen, Aug 1852 Denmark, married 24 years, to US 1880
Annie K Hancen, Jul 1850 Denmark, 9 children, 4 living, to US 1880
Emma Hancen, Apr 1887 Mich
Hannah Hancen, Jan 1889 Mich
Mary Hancen, Jun 1891 Mich

Hans remarried:

1910 Belvidere Townshio, Montcalm County Michigan
Hans Hansen 57 Denmark, 2nd marriage, 5 years, to US 1882
Ellen Hansen 36 Denmark, to US 1891
Astriod Hansen 2 Mich, daughter


Here is the daughter of Hans and second wife Ellen:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Hansen&GSiman=1&GScid=236&GRid=45298040&

(their 1910 census was taken 7 May)
Location:  Texas USA
Areas of interest:  Tønder county,  Brede, Daler, and Visby parishes
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=-skow-

Lis B. Jensen

Hi Homer

Thank You again - I struggle hard to keep following and place the informations right - and find Danish informations.
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Line Thorngaard

Hi Homer,

You are right that Christene Hansen, born in July 1880,  who I found in Census 1900 is the wrong person.

Best regards,
Line Thorngaard

Line Thorngaard

Hi Lis,

From Family Search, maybe the daughter Emma of Hans Hansen and Ane Kirstine Hansen:

Historical Records
Emma Hansen
Michigan Births, 1867-1902
birth: 10 Apr 1887 Belvidere,​ Montcalm,​ Michigan
parents: Hans Hansen,​ Anna J Hansen
 
name: Emma Hansen
birth date: 10 Apr 1887
birthplace: Belvidere, Montcalm, Michigan
gender: Female
father's name: Hans Hansen
father's birthplace: Europe
mother's name: Anna J Hansen
mother's birthplace: Europe
digital folder number: 4207544

Best regards,
Line Thorngaard

Line Thorngaard

Hi Lis,

From Family Search, maybe the daughters Hannah and Mary of Hans Hansen and Ane Kirstine Hansen:

Michigan Births and Christenings, 1775-1995 for Hanna Hansen
Name: Hanna Hansen 
Gender: Female 
Birth Date: 02 Jan 1889 
Birthplace: Belvidere, Montcalm, Michigan 
Father's Name: Hans Hansen 
Mother's Name: Hanna Hansen 
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02579-8 
System Origin: Michigan-ODM 
Source Film Number: 2321100 

Michigan Births and Christenings, 1775-1995 for Mary Hansen
Name: Mary Hansen 
Gender: Female 
Birth Date: 28 Jun 1891 
Birthplace: Belvidere, Montcalm, Michigan 
Father's Name: Hanss Hansen 
Mother's Name: Annie Hansen 
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02591-7 
System Origin: Michigan-ODM 
Source Film Number: 2321271 

Best regards,
Line Thorngaard

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