Looking for descendants of Neble family from Stubbekøbing, Falster, Denmark,

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hej Mia,

I have found the following information on two of the daughters of Alexander Neble.

Elvina Neble married married Adolph Groetzinger in Brooklyn, New York on 11 Dec 1920.

I found Adolph and Elvina in the 1930 census living at 2453 Snyder Street, Pittsburgh, Alleghany County, Pennsylvania.  Both Adolph and Elvina are 30 years old.  Two children are listed - Margrette E., 8 years old, born in New York and Norman R., 4 4/12, born in Pennsylvania.  

Elvina died in Wexford, Alleghany County, Pennsylvania on 29 Dec 2000.  She was born 20 Apr 1899.

I have found a Norman R. Groetzinger living in Pittsburgh.  Please e-mail me at PLondahlsmid snabel ()lexcominc.net and I will send you his address and telephone number.

According to a record I found, Lillian Neble married Thorvald Rasmussen on 2 May 1934 in Brooklyn, New York.  However, I think this may be a transcription error and they may have been married on 2 May 1924.

I did find a Thorvald and Lillian Rasmussen in the 1930 census.  They were living in the Bronx, which is part of New York City.  All the information on Lillian matches the information on Lillian Neble.

1930 United States Federal Census about Thorvald Rasmussen
Name:    Thorvald Rasmussen
Birth Year:    abt 1897
Birthplace:    Denmark
Home in 1930:    Bronx, Bronx, New York
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Relation to Head of House:    Head
Spouse's Name:    Lillian Rasmussen

Household Members:    
Name    Age
Thorvald Rasmussen    33
Lillian Rasmussen    26
Walter Rasmussen    5
Richard Rasmussen    2
Dagmar Rasmussen    

Med venlig hilsen
Paul

[Jane C]

Hi Helge,

Some more

1840
Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Stubbekøbing Købstad, Stubbekøbing Købstad, Møllegade, 80, FT-1840, C8188
Jens Neble 52 Gift skomager
Frederikke Lund 46 Gift hans kone
Frederick Neble 23 Ugift svend, deres barn
Emilie Neble 16 Ugift deres barn
Anette Neble 10 Ugift deres barn
Nicoline Neble 7 Ugift deres barn
Elisa Neble 5 Ugift deres barn
Juliane Øst 64 Enke konens moder, lever af pension og sine midler
Christian Jensen 28 Ugift svend
Carl Møller 21 Ugift svend
Pernille Pedersdatter 21 Ugift tjenestefolk

1845
Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Stubbekøbing Købstad, Stubbekjøbing Kiøbstad, Møllegade no 80, 1, FT-1845, B7928
Jens Neble 57 Gift skomager -"- [Stubbekjøbing]
Frederikke Lund 51 Gift hans kone Maibølle, Mariboe Amt
Emilie Neble 21 Ugift deres børn Stubbekjøbing
Annette Neble 15 Ugift deres børn -"- [Stubbekjøbing]
Nicoline Neble 12 Ugift deres børn -"- [Stubbekjøbing]
Elise Neble 10 Ugift deres børn -"- [Stubbekjøbing]
Juliane Øst 73 Enke(mand) mandens svigermoder Kjøbenhavn
Christian Jensen 33 Ugift skomagersvend Stubbekjøbing
Carl Andreasen 20 Ugift læredrenge Nykjøbing paa Falster
Christian Meyer 21 Ugift læredrenge Kjøbenhavn
Anne Pedersdatter 17 Ugift tjenestepige Baagøe, Præstøe

1855
Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Stubbekøbing Købstad, Vestergade 126 st., stuen, 14 - F1, FT-1855, C8084
Antom Frederik Strate 36 Gift husfader og Købmand Rødby
Anette Rasmine Kirstine Neble 25 Gift hans kone Stubbekøbing
Sophie Catrine Neble 2 Ugift deres datter Stubbekøbing
Elise Hansine Neble 20 Ugift husjomfru Stubbekøbing
Jensine Rasmine Amalie Mode 25 Ugift tjenestepige Bogø

[Jane C]

Elise Hansine Neble's mother as a little girl in 1801:

Maribo, Musse, Majbølle, Hjelms Bye, , 56, FT-1801, b8275
David Lund 50 Gift husbond skoleholder
Julian Øest 25 Gift hans kone
Frideriche Margrete Lundsdatter 8 Ugift deres datter
Svend Lund 4 Ugift deres søn

[Jane C]

This could be Elise's father:
1801 CENSUS
Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Stubbekøbing Købstad, Stubbekjøbing Kiøbstad, Møllegade No 98, 74de familie, FT-1801, B8941
Rasmus Neble 57  Gift Husbonde Skomager  
Anna Sand 55  Gift Hans kone  
Jens Neble 13  - Deres søn  


Elise Hansine's family before her birth
1834 CENSUS
Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Stubbekøbing Købstad, Møllegade No 80, 1. familie, 104, FT-1834, B8126
Jens Neble 47 Gift Skomagermester
Fredericha Magrete Lund 40 Gift Hans kone  
Frederich David Neble 17 Ugift Deres søn
Emilie Juliane Neble 10 Ugift Deres datter
Rasmine Kirstine Neble 4 Ugift Deres datter
Nicolie Sophia Neble 1 Ugift Deres datter
Erents August Smidt 32 Ugift Skomagersvend
Juliiane Chalena Lund 60 Enke har sit ophold hos Neble
Chan Christian Jensen 22 Ugift Lære dreng Hans Vilhielm Kvasse 19 Ugift Lære dreng


The following are posted in IGI and should be checked against churchbooks.

Jens Rasmussen Neble of Stubbekobing b abt 1758 died 16 Jul 1848 in Stubbekobing
Frideriche Margrete Lund born 13 Oct 1793 at Hjelm, Majbolle, Maribo died 18 Feb 1867 at Stubbekobing
married 15 Nov 1816

Frideriche's parents
David Kjeldsen Lund b abt 1767 Hjelm, Majbolle, Maribo
Juliane Catrine Oest b abt 1771 Hjelm, Majbolle, Maribo

Jens's parents
Rasmus Jensen Neble of Stubbekobing b abt 1762
Anne Olsdatter of Stubbekobing b abt 1766

[Jane C]

In the 1855 census record posted above, Elise is living with her sister Anette and brother-in-law Anton:
1855
Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Stubbekøbing Købstad, Vestergade 126 st., stuen, 14 - F1, FT-1855, C8084
Antom Frederik Strate 36 Gift husfader og Købmand Rødby
Anette Rasmine Kirstine Neble 25 Gift hans kone Stubbekøbing
Sophie Catrine Neble 2 Ugift deres datter Stubbekøbing
Elise Hansine Neble 20 Ugift husjomfru Stubbekøbing
Jensine Rasmine Amalie Mode 25 Ugift tjenestepige Bogø

Again, per IGI, this couple -
Anton Frederik Strate b 1819 in Rodby, Maribo, and
Rasmine Kirstine Annette Neble born 20 Nov 1830 in Stubbekobing -
had a son who went to America:

Herman Behrendt Strate born 1862 in Stubbekobing christened 07 Sep 1862
died 5 Apr 1937 in Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA and is buried at Forest Lawn Cemetery.
Herman married
Mary Josephine Snell or Schnell born 10 May 1870 in Houghton, Michigan, USA
and died 18 Nov 1935 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, USA.

Ancestry.com says this couple married in Ontario.

Here's Herman in 1930:

1930
Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
Herman B Strate 67 b Denmark immigrated 1881 pump operator, city water board
Josephine Strate 59
Donald S Strate 22
Herman B Strate 20

[Jane C]

Herman B. Strate passport application 1920, attached

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[Mia Gerdrup]

After a long time being busy, then sick and then busy again, - i'm have worked with the Neble-family-tree.

I must say that's it's some kind of a job, - so many persons! Sometimes i'm loosing overwiev.....
And then you're - and others - write again.....

Don't misunderstand this - i'm very happy about everything you send.

I'll try to finish the family-tree in the weekend, and then you will see.......

I have found this amacing site at the internet http://picasaweb.google.com/ritalockhartphotos/RitaSLineage#
Wonderfull pictures, enjoy!
- and I think that I have being able to place most of the persons in the tree.

[Helge Nordstrand Nielsen]

Hi Jane,

Thank you very much for spotting my great grandparents and family. This is really fascinating.

I will write to Mia to see if she has further information.

regards/Helge
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[Jane C]

Hi Helge,

More about great-grandmother Elise Hansine Neble's ancestors from:
http://www.kislingmoller.dk/633.html

Elise Hansine Neble > Jens Rasmussen Neble > Rasmus Jensen Neble > Jens Rasmussen Nebølle

Jens Rasmussen Nebølle died 1792 in Stubbekøbing. Married Magrethe Hansdatter 22 February 1743 in Stubbekøbing. Margrethe died 1791. Children Rasmus Jensen Neble b 1745 and Jørgen Jensen Neble b 1752

[Lars must be another son: 27 Maj blev Jens Skomagers liden søn døbt og kaldet Laurits. Stubbekøbing Kirkebog 1750. In 1787 census in Stubbekobing called Lars Nebbølle]

1787 CENSUS
Maribo, Falsters Nørre, Stubbekøbing Købstad, Stubbekiøbing, Vestergade, Nordre Side, , FT-1787, B8940
Jens Nebbølle 69 Gift Hosbonde Skoemager
Magrete Hansdatter 70 Gift hans Kone

[Jane C]

Hi Mia,

Haven't posted this because I can't see where this guy fits into the Danish family. Maybe you will know. So here he is.

Hans Nebel Sorensen born 11 August 1851, Denmark, died 22 July 1905 in probably Perth Amboy, New Jersey, USA.
Married Karen.
Next married Christine Marie Clausen
Married August 31, 1894 at Perth Amboy, Middlesex, New Jersey (per Danish Archives Northeast)
Christine Marie Clausen born 12 April 1860, died 15 March 1947 in probably Perth Amboy.
Hans and Kirsten/Christine buried Alpine Cemetery, Perth Amboy, Middlesex, New Jersey, USA. (birth/death dates per Find-A-Grave).

Ship’s passenger manifest
26 March 1894 arriving New York on the ship Venetia
Hans Nebel Sorensen age 43 years 6 mo carpenter b Denmark destination Perth Amboy
Christine Maria 36 wife
Ellen 9 years 4 months

[Paul Londahl-Smidt]

Hans Nebel Sørensen was born 11 Aug 1851 and baptized in Smidstrup, Holmans, Vejle on 31 Oct 1851, parents Søren Nielsen and Barbara Marie Hansen, opslag 34 nr 16. 

Here is his emigration from Denmark in 1894.  It seems that he was already in the USA
Name:    Sørensen, Hans Nebel   Occupation:    Snedker
Age:    42   Destination:    NY.
Contract no.:    55000   Registration date:    3/6/1894
Birth place:    ?   Birth place:    ?
Last res. parish:    ?   Last res. county:    - Amerika
Last residence:    Amerika   Destination country:    USA
Destination city:    New York City   Destination state:    New York State
Name of ship:    Indirekte

mvh
Paul

[Jane C]

Thanks Paul!

So this could be an entirely different family, right?

[Homer Ficken]

Hans Nebel Sørensen was born 11 Aug 1851 and baptized in Smidstrup, Holmans, Vejle on 31 Oct 1851, parents Søren Nielsen and Barbara Marie Hansen, opslag 34 nr 16.  

Here is his emigration from Denmark in 1894.  It seems that he was already in the USA
Name:    Sørensen, Hans Nebel   Occupation:    Snedker
Age:    42   Destination:    NY.
Contract no.:    55000   Registration date:    3/6/1894
Birth place:    ?   Birth place:    ?
Last res. parish:    ?   Last res. county:    - Amerika
Last residence:    Amerika   Destination country:    USA
Destination city:    New York City   Destination state:    New York State
Name of ship:    Indirekte

mvh
Paul

A bit more:

Hans arrived New York from Helsinger 26 Mar 1894 on ship Venetia, his destination Perth Amboy (New Jersey).

1900 Perth Amboy, Middlesex County, NJ
Hans Sorensen, Sep 1851 Denmark, Saloon Keeper, to US 1883
Sophia Sorensen, Oct 1849 Sweden, to US 1883, married 23 years
Soren A Sorensen, May 1879 Denmark, to US 1883
Annie Sorensen, Jan 1888 New Jersey

Hans 31, Sophie 38, and Soren 3 arrived New York 23 Apr 1883 on ship Suevia from Hamburg.

His gravesite, he must have remarried:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=sorens&GSfn=hans&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=33&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=74626758&df=all&

[Mia Gerdrup]

Jane and Homer,

I'm quite sure, that Hans Nebel Sorensen don't belong to the Neble-family!!!

[Homer Ficken]

Jane and Homer,

I'm quite sure, that Hans Nebel Sorensen don't belong to the Neble-family!!!

No, but the grave marker confirms he was the one Paul found in Smidstrup, so maybe useful information to someone.

[Jane C]

Thanks Mia. You are becoming quite an expert on the Stubbekoebing Nebels!

I agree Homer. Others may google for names on their family tree and find something helpful here.

Although it's not relevant for Mia, I'm curious: Do you really think that's them in 1900? Christine's name would have to be alternately Sophie, since Christine was on the ship with Hans in 1894 (per ship manifest) and died 1947 per Find a Grave (per her grave marker).

Neble seems to be a place name, and more than one place in Denmark is called that. Is that right?

[Homer Ficken]

Although it's not relevant for Mia, I'm curious: Do you really think that's them in 1900? Christine's name would have to be alternately Sophie, since Christine was on the ship with Hans in 1894 (per ship manifest) and died 1947 per Find a Grave (per her grave marker).

I'd not looked at the 1894 manifest to see that Christine Marie and a daughter Ellen were with Hans.  Hans, Sophie, and Soren are almost certainly the ones on the 1883 passenger list, but Sophie was born 1849 and Christine in 1860.    Hans died 1905 and I don't find matches for Christine, Ellen, or a different Hans in Perth Amboy censuses.  Still, quite a coincidence that two Hans Nebel Sorensen's should both be there.

Christine Marie's marker lists Clausen as maiden name:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=sorens&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=33&GScnty=1918&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=74626689&df=all&

[Jane C]

Hi Homer,

The guy I had mentioned, Hans Nebel Sorensen, was born 11 August 1851.
The guy in 1900 census you posted was born September 1851, though I wouldn't rule him out based on that. I don't see the name Nebel in 1900 - just Hans Sorensen.

I couldn't find the right people in New Jersey in 1900 census either.

The quoted info shows why I think Hans has to be with Christine in 1900. And what you have just written points out that Sophie and Christine cannot be the same woman.

A mystery why Hans Nebel Sorensen disappears - I suppose he is just Hans Sorensen somewhere, and harder to spot. The 1894 manifest says he's going to Perth Amboy, and he's buried in Perth Amboy, but that doesn't prove he was living in Perth Amboy in 1900 I suppose.

Hi Mia,

Haven't posted this because I can't see where this guy fits into the Danish family. Maybe you will know. So here he is.

Hans Nebel Sorensen born 11 August 1851, Denmark, died 22 July 1905 in probably Perth Amboy, New Jersey, USA.
Married Karen.
Next married Christine Marie Clausen
Married August 31, 1894 at Perth Amboy, Middlesex, New Jersey (per Danish Archives Northeast)
Christine Marie Clausen born 12 April 1860, died 15 March 1947  in probably Perth Amboy.
Hans and Kirsten/Christine buried Alpine Cemetery, Perth Amboy, Middlesex, New Jersey, USA. (birth/death dates per Find-A-Grave).

Ship’s passenger manifest  
26 March 1894 arriving New York on the ship Venetia
Hans Nebel Sorensen age 43 years 6 mo carpenter b Denmark destination Perth Amboy
Christine Maria   36 wife
Ellen 9 years 4 months

[Homer Ficken]

The guy I had mentioned, Hans Nebel Sorensen, was born 11 August 1851.
The guy in 1900 census you posted was born September 1851, though I wouldn't rule him out based on that. I don't see the name Nebel in 1900 - just Hans Sorensen.

 

My error, he's also only listed as Hans Sorensen on the 1883 manifest.

There's a Sophie Sorensen born ca 1849 Sweden in later censuses of Plainfield, New Jersey who may be above Hans' widow.  She listed 1884 immigration date in 1900 and 1883 in 1920.

[Jane C]

Okay good, that's settled. I like the back and forth. Thanks for chatting about this Homer.

[Mia Gerdrup]

This got much much longer, that I ever thougt it was possible. And gave me so much more information than I could hope about.

What did we do before www???

Before I started this inquiry I had a large familytree with family Neble.
The Family Neble had lived in the city of Stubbekøbing since 1719 and there are many many descendants.
About late 1880 some of them left Denmark in the hope, that they could get a better life in USA,
I knew some of them, - especially Sophus Neble who became the well know editor of "The Danish Pioneer" in Omaha, Nebraska.
He startet as a typesetter at the newpaper in his hometown Stubbekøbing. Later he often came on visit to Denmark and Stubbekøbing - and Stubbekøbing newspaper allways wrote story's about him and his family.
Sophus was the first to leave Danmark, and then his brothes and his mother, who were widow. And then all the others.

But my problem were: What became of alle Neble's who left Denmark and began a new life in USA. I had found some informations about the first and second US-generation, but then I lost them.

You have all helped me quite a lot with new informations, and you inspired me too look for anymore informations at the world wide web.

I have thougt a lot how I could share all the informations with you.
I think it's interesting that it's not only one Neble family who's leaving Denmark, - but more Neble-family's - and some single young men. They were all related, all some kind of cousins.
 
And I got problems - the Neble familytree now includes 65 pages (Legacy)! A simple version includes 13 pages!

To much to bring here.....

But I think I owe some off you - Jane Christiansen, Homer Ficken and Paul Londahl Smidt - the possibility to see the result. Send me a private message, and I wil send you the Neble Familytree in the simple version.

To Helge Nordstrand Nielsen - I have sent some information to you, - I hope I was usefull.
To Flemming Willum Petersen - I will contact you some of thise days.

I any other find this site, and want to know anything about the family, your welcome to contact me, and I will help if possible.

At last - Big news!
2 weeks ago I recieved a mail from a direct descendant of Sophus Neble! The person have found my name at this site, but chose to contact me private. They have for some time been looking for persons in Denmark, who knew about Neble-family.
It was my great hope to get in touch with direct descendant's - and it happened.

Well I stop my searching now.
I'm so thankfull to everyone of you who helped!
Thank you so very much!!

[Jennifer Andrews]

Hi I don't know if you still check this site or not.   My name is Jennifer Andrews.   My grandmother was Ann Karen Neble, and her grandfather was John Louis Neble  (brother of Sophus F Neble), who came to Omaha from Denmark.   My grandmother's only brother died young.  I know she had an Aunt Ann, who also died young - I am not sure what happened to her son.

At any rate,  Ann Karen Neble moved to California as a child and married Harold Hansen (from Iowa, but his parents were from Denmark).  They had three children:  Kristine Louise Hansen (Durcan), Mark Hansen, and Martin Peter Hansen.  Kristine is my mother.

I live in Tacoma, Washington.  My Uncle Mark is still in Las Vegas, and my Uncle Marty is in Austin, Texas.

I hope that helps and please feel free to reach out if you have any questions!

Jennifer
(jenandrews76@gmail.com)

This page is normaly used to seek for danish ancestors.
With this I will try to use it to find descendants in US.

The Neble family lived for generations i Stubbekøbing, Falster, Denmark.
Neble's became at big familiy, - many of them shoemakers, or other craftsmen.
About 1880 -1905 many family members went to USA, - among them Sophus Neble, who became editor af "The Danish Pioneer".

I'm working on a family tree for the Neble-family, and I would like to get in contact with decendants in US.

My own connection to the family: my g-g-g-grandfathers sister married af Neble in 1811.

I have looked on FamilySearch, Ellis Island and US census, and have found some Neble's. But it's at bit difficult, becouse some Neble's change their danish birthname to something "american". Often the birth year isn't exactly.

I would be happy to get in touch with anyone who knows about any Neble from Denmark now living in US.

[Mia Gerdrup]

Hi Jennifer, - I have sent you an emali.

[Karin Andersen]

Hej 

Jeg kikkede efter noget andet og faldt over denne lille notits. Den hører vist hjemme her på tråden.


Næstved Tidende. Sydsjællands Folkeblad. (1866-1918)
Fredag den 27. Oktober 1905

Vrangt og ret

At en Mand skriver sin egen Dødsanmeldelse hører vistnok til Sjeldenhederne. Dette har imidlettid en af "Pioner"ens ældste Abonnenter, Søren Iverseni Salomon, Kansas, gjort, saaledes som det fremgaar af nedenstaaende Brev, der meddeles i "Den Danske Pioner" for 12 ds:

Salomon den 1. Februar.
Hr. Sofus F. Neble
Da jeg nu er bleven gammel, og snart skal dø, vil jeg lade Dig vide, hvor jeg er født, og lade dem sende det til Dig, naar jeg er død. Jeg er født i Waarst, Gundrup Sogn, Aalborg Amt, den 10. April 1827 og blev gift 1860 og rejste til Amerika 1863, levede først i Rymand, Racine County og siden i Minnesota, Nobles County. Jeg var med i den første Krig, jeg kom paa Skolen 1848 og kom til 11 Batailon, 3. kompagni, og var med i alle hovedslagene de sidste to Aar.
Søren Iversen
Senere var der tilføjet med utydelig Skrift, som kunde det være skrevet kort før Døden:

Jeg ønsker, De vil se til, at det ogsaa kommer i Aalborg Stiftstidende. Farvel.
Iversen

http://hdl.handle.net/109.3.1/uuid:717fd38f-3f9c-47f1-9a22-c9ec6d5d8a94


Hilsen 

Karin

[Niels Bach-Lauritsen]

Hi, Neble investigators. The Danish Emigration Archive has Alexander Cumann Neble (DDD Udvandrerarkivet) under contract no 177500 with Thingvalla. Age 21, slagter/butcher of Stubbekøbing. For New York.
New York Passenger Lists 1820-1891 also shows Alexander C, 21, butcher - just where the paper is folded, which makes it a bit blurred. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5BZ4-W?i=479&cc=1849782

This indicates, or so I think, that he arrived in New York safe and sound, not being marked in the "Dead on voyage" column. However, he probably died within a few years later, as a Stubbekøbing probate record after the death of his father did not mention him among the sons and daughters. http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=134136&side=380&height=636