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I.M.

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« Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 10:02 »
Hi
I am looking for a birth record in 1849 from Silkeborg. The problem is that these books seem to start 1856. Does anyone know if they exist?

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« Svar #1 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 10:08 »
Strangely enough I think I have found the answer. It looks as though Linå Parish was included with Silkeborg.

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« Svar #2 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 10:11 »
Silkeborg Sogn er et sogn i Silkeborg Provsti (Århus Stift).

Silkeborg Handelsplads blev oprettet i 1846. Her blev Silkeborg Sogn oprettet i 1855 med Linå Sogn som anneks. I 1900 blev Silkeborg købstad, og sognet blev et selvstændigt pastorat. Købstaden hørte geografisk til Gjern Herred i Skanderborg Amt, og dens landdistrikt hørte administrativt til herredet. Ved kommunalreformen i 1970 blev Silkeborg købstad kernen i Silkeborg Kommune.

I Silkeborg Sogn ligger Silkeborg Kirke fra 1877.
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« Svar #3 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 10:21 »
Thanks Gitte.
Where would I have to look to find a birth from 1849 In Silkeborg?
The person I am looking for recorded that he was born in Silkeborg.

Ian

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« Svar #4 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 10:28 »
Can you give me a name and dates?
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« Svar #5 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 10:36 »
Lauritz Hermansen supposedly born 26 Apr 1855 in Silkeborg. But I think he was born in 1849. The same man in my other post.

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« Svar #8 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 10:42 »
So he was adopted.
What is his full name. I can't read the last part Trobösse?


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« Svar #9 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 10:43 »
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« Svar #10 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 10:47 »
Frøbøsse


His mother
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« Svar #12 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 10:54 »
Thank you Gitte.
I would never have found these records.


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« Svar #13 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 10:56 »
Yes thanks.
I have him with his daughter Signe in Them Parish and Almind Parish.


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« Svar #14 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 11:45 »
A child

nr. 41 Frøbøsse or Terkelsen

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16415220#25,19413




København, København (Staden), Udenbys Klædebo Kvarter, Udenbys Klædebo Kvarter, , 648, FT-1860, D9751

Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Peter Anton Martinus Blandt     35     G     Qvartermester ved Koppehospitalet          Aarhus 
Johanne Sophie Blandt     38     G     Kone. ...?? ved koppehospitalet          Kjøbenhavn 
Lovise Amalie Andersen     29     E     Gangkone i Koppehospitalet          Usserød Kjøbenhavn Amt 
Anna Petersen     38     U     Gangkone i Koppehospitalet          Sverig 
Christen Jensen     32     U     Portner ved Koppehospitalet          Tersløv Sorø Amt 
Jens Larsen     37     E     Portner ved Koppehospitalet          Suserød Bloustrød Sogn 
Nicoline Madsen     59     G     Kjøkkenkone ved Koppehospitalet          Søllinge Svendborg Amt 
Magdalene Amalie Torkildsen     30     U     ...?? ved Koppehospitalet          Kjøbenhavn 
Hansine Andrea Wennerstrøm     18     U     ...?? ved Koppehospitalet          Kjøbenhavn 
Hansine Christensen     31     U     ...?? ved Koppehospitalet          Kjøbenhavn 
Maren Elise Andersen     28     U     ...?? ved Koppehospitalet          Sverig 
   
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« Svar #15 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 12:47 »
Thank you again Gitte.


Inger Toudal

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« Svar #16 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 13:56 »

So he was adopted.
What is his full name. I can't read the last part Trobösse?


It doesn't say anywhere that he was adopted.

His full name was Laurits Hermann Frobøsse.

Could be his mother Magdalene Amalia Frobøs:
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/churchbook/sogn595/churchlisting141392/opslag15673723 - No 24

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« Svar #17 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 13:59 »
Samme mor som jeg har fundet.
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« Svar #19 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 14:01 »
Ok thanks.
I thought "Pleiestiftelsen" was for adoptive children.


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« Svar #20 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 14:03 »
12/82. Divorce

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=258413#258413,48192714

Great. Thank you.
That answers my query I posted about the marriage transcription. I thought I could read dissolved etc.


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« Svar #22 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 14:13 »

I thought "Pleiestiftelsen" was for adoptive children.


Fødselsstiftelsen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%B8dselsstiftelsen

- maternity institution where unmarried mothers could give birth anonymously.

1855 Census, Copenhagen, Hjortelængen 158: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid8331582

13105   Amalie Magdalene Terkelsen   Female   27   1828   Single   
13106   Lauritz Herman Terkelsen   Male   6   1849   Single   Hendes barn

- 1855 Census: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=120681#120681,17465903

Magdalene Amalia was born out of wedlock. Her mother's surname was Terkelsen.

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I.M.

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« Svar #23 Dato: 15 Jun 2022 - 14:38 »
Excellent. Thank you.

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« Svar #24 Dato: 11 Jul 2022 - 07:30 »
Just following on from this post, I am trying to put together a timeline for Lauritz, but I’m not entirely sure of my research (and may have also made some mistakes along the way). If anyone is really bored and looking for something to do (!) I would so appreciate it if you could have a look at the timeline below and confirm if I am on the right track (I have not included any birth facts or information after 1873 as I feel more confident about that).

1850 census
There is a woman by the name of Amalie Magdalene Pertrelsen and her child, Julius Lauretius, who are at chokolade fabrikket (a chocolate factory?) in Copenhagen. Would it be possible that these two are actually Amalie Magdalene Terkelsen / Frøbøsse and her son, Lauritz Herman Frøbøsse? Lauritz would have been around 6 weeks old at the time of the census (the child in this census is 1-year-old), so perhaps I have the wrong people?

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid6810995

1860 census
Lauritz (Laurentz Terkildsen) is recorded as a foster child at Prindsessegade fh. Prindsensgade. Does anyone know much about this place? Is it just the name of a street or was there a workhouse there (I seem to recall reading something about Our Saviour’s workhouse or similar, being located in that area)?

https://ddd.dda.dk/asp/alle_opl_en.asp

1864 confirmation
Lauritz’s father is recorded as Anders Holgrd (is this a shortened form of Holdgaard / Holdgård)? I don’t imagine Anders is his real father though. I am having difficulty deciphering Lauritz’s residence — is it Grøndalsgaard (and is this where Anders is staying also)? Is Grøndalsgaard in Viborg?

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21585086#364658,70617455 #3

1870 census
I can’t find Lauritz anywhere, but I guess he must be in Viborg somewhere. I would really like to know who he is staying with!


The following is information from the moving books. I’m unsure if the 1873 record is a departure or arrival?

1 November 1870
Departure from Kragelund, Viborg.

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21585086#364661,70617532 #45

5 November 1870
Arrival in Svostrup, Viborg.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9ZX-WJKR #28

1873
Departure (?) from Kragelund, Viborg.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9ZX-ZW85 #14


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Inger Toudal

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« Svar #25 Dato: 11 Jul 2022 - 14:11 »
Not sure about the 1850 Census - the name of the son in the census is Julius, not Laurits.

Navn:   Laurentz Terkildsen   Køn:   M
Alder:   11   Civilstand:   Ugift
Stilling i husstanden:   ?? Pleiebarn   Fødested:   Kjøbenhavn
Kildehenvisning:   189   Trossamfund:   Lutheran
Kilde:    FT-1860   Husstands-/familienr:   2452
Matr.nr/adresse:   3. Sal
Sogn:    Christianshavn Kvarter   Herred:    København (Staden)
Amt:    København   Stednavn:    Prindsessegade fh. Prindsensgade, Matr. 292, Løbe no. 355-357
Indtastningsnr:    D6360   Løbenr.:    11763

- you cannot link to search results at ddd.dda.dk

FT-1860: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid14804809 - see Original Source, right page: Lauritz Terkildsen 

- as I read it, he is Interimistisk Plejebarn.

- the place is Frelsers Arbejdshus.

As for the confirmation, his mother is unmarried Amalie Magdalene, father is not stated (Barnefaderen ikke angiven).
- Placed as farm boy with Anders Holgaard (Udsat i Tjeneste hos Hmd Anders Holgrd. paa Grøndalsgrd).

Viborg, Hids, Kragelund, Klosterlund, Et Huus, 124, FT-1860, B5393
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birthplace:
Anders Christensen Holdgaard     56     gift      Huusmand, Huusfader            her i Sognet
Inger Marie Andersdatter     60     gift      hans Kone            [her i Sognet] 
Christen Andersen Holdgaard     31     ugift      [deres søn], tjener Forældrene            [her i Sognet] 
Birthe Marie Andersen     29     ugift      [deres datter], tjener Forældrene            [her i Sognet] 

- Kommentarer: Stedet kaldet: 'Grøndalsgaard'   

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« Svar #26 Dato: 12 Jul 2022 - 00:48 »
Thanks again for your outstanding research skills, Inger.  :)

You're right about Lauritz's name being very different in the 1850 Census. The main thing that led me to think it may be him was that one of the people mentioned in that particular census was Ravns Enke, a widower. There is a note on Lauritz's birth record that he and his mother, Amalie, stayed with the widow Ravn when they were discharged from Fødselsstiftelsen in 1850 (although I may not have translated that quite correctly and perhaps Ravn is a common name)!

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16415220#23,17651

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Inger Toudal

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« Svar #27 Dato: 12 Jul 2022 - 14:46 »
The address for widow Ravn in Udsætterprotokollen (Nr. 12) 5 Jan. 1850  is Rigensgade 164 (or 167).

In the 1850 Census 1 Feb. 1850, the address is Rosengade 437.

But the surname of Amalie Magdalene in the 1850 Census is probably Terkelsen (certainly not Pertrelsen).

 - the name of the child seems to be Julius Lauritsen.

Age 1 year in the censuses 1787 - 1860 meant between 0 and 1 y. old.

I would say it could be Amalie Magdalene with her child Lauritz Herman, born 22 Dec. 1849.

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« Svar #28 Dato: 13 Jul 2022 - 02:18 »
Fantastic. Thanks for clarifying the information, Inger.  :)
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« Svar #29 Dato: 18 Jul 2022 - 00:39 »

As for the confirmation, his mother is unmarried Amalie Magdalene, father is not stated (Barnefaderen ikke angiven).
- Placed as farm boy with Anders Holgaard (Udsat i Tjeneste hos Hmd Anders Holgrd. paa Grøndalsgrd).

Viborg, Hids, Kragelund, Klosterlund, Et Huus, 124, FT-1860, B5393
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birthplace:
Anders Christensen Holdgaard     56     gift      Huusmand, Huusfader            her i Sognet
Inger Marie Andersdatter     60     gift      hans Kone            [her i Sognet] 
Christen Andersen Holdgaard     31     ugift      [deres søn], tjener Forældrene            [her i Sognet] 
Birthe Marie Andersen     29     ugift      [deres datter], tjener Forældrene            [her i Sognet] 

- Kommentarer: Stedet kaldet: 'Grøndalsgaard'   


Just to clarify the above, Anders Holdgaard was living in Klosterlund, Kragelund Parish, Hids, Viborg at the time of the 1860 census, but Laurits worked as a farm boy with Anders in Grøndalsgaard (which appears to be in Aalborg)?
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