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« Dato: 26 Apr 2022 - 01:18 »
Mads Nielsen was born in 1775 to Niels Jørgensen and Mette Marie Madsdatter in Seest parish, Ribe Amt.
There appears to be two entries for his baptism.
I assume that the first entry on 9 Apr 1775 was for a home baptism soon after birth.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=168542#168542,28301379
And that the second entry on 1 Sep 1776 was for the church baptism/presentation.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=168542#168542,28301380

Thanks for any clarification,
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« Svar #1 Dato: 26 Apr 2022 - 19:33 »
To expand this a bit, there appears to be an older child named Maren listed twice, 8 May 1768 and 30 Jun 1771.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17126092#168542,28301372
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17126092#168542,28301375
The second record is with other baptisms on the same Sunday, so I wonder if that one was in church even if no witnesses are listed.  There doesn't appear to be any other Niels Jørgensen in Seest parish during this time.
This could be the common practice of reusing a child's name after a child's death, but I find no matching death records in the parish.

Also, I am trying to determine if the Mette Maria Madsdatter in the 1801 census is the same person that was married to Niels Jørgensen who died in 1789, and then remarried to Christian Pedersen?  But I haven't found marriage records for either marriage.

Thanks for any help,
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« Svar #2 Dato: 30 Apr 2022 - 01:26 »
Also, I am trying to determine if the Mette Maria Madsdatter in the 1801 census is the same person that was married to Niels Jørgensen who died in 1789, and then remarried to Christian Pedersen?  But I haven't found marriage records for either marriage.

Could someone try to transcribe/translate the marriage record for Christian Pedersen and Mette Marie Madsdatter 29 Jan 1793 in Seest?
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17126092#168542,69364185

Thanks for any help,
Art

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« Svar #3 Dato: 30 Apr 2022 - 10:21 »

For det Ægteskab i Dag imellem den Velagte Unge Karl Christian Peder-
sen, og den dydelskende Enke Mette Maria Mads Datter begge af Seest, ere vi an-
svarlige, at de ey ere Beslægtede i nogen af de forbudne Leed, som Hr Majestæts
Lov og Forordinger forbyde, at de ere frie for Aabenbare Ægteskabs Løf-
ter andensteds, og der er intet som kand hindre deres Ægteskabs fore-
ning Seest den 29 Jan. 1793
                                Jens Schautrup         Niels Andersen

.. and my best shot in english:

For the marriage today between the well esteemed bachelor Christian Peder-
sen and the virtue loving widow Mette Maria Mads Datter both of Seest, we are re-
sponsible that they are not related in any of the forbidden generation which is prohibited
as per Mr. Majesty’s Law and Order, that they are free of known promises of marriage
elsewhere, and that there is nothing that can prevent the union of their marriage.
Seest, Jan 29th, 1793   
                                Jens Schautrup          Niels Andersen


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« Svar #4 Dato: 30 Apr 2022 - 14:46 »
Bjarke, thank you for your work!

The handwriting on this one was such that I could only make out a few key words.  It is a very lovely statement.

I think this re-enforces the likelihood that this was a second marriage for my 4th-great-grandmother.

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« Svar #5 Dato: 30 Apr 2022 - 17:50 »

Art, here you will find the probate after Niels Jørgensen.

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=22743171#475841,85135630

It is mentioning five under aged children:
- a son Jørgen 16 years old
- a son Mads 13 years old
- a daughter Kirsten Maria 20 years old
- a daughter Maren 18 years old
- a daughter Anna 10 years old


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« Svar #6 Dato: 30 Apr 2022 - 21:02 »

Art, here you will find the probate after Niels Jørgensen.

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=22743171#475841,85135630

It is mentioning five under aged children:
- a son Jørgen 16 years old
- a son Mads 13 years old
- a daughter Kirsten Maria 20 years old
- a daughter Maren 18 years old
- a daughter Anna 10 years old

Thank you Bjarke.

I already had those 5 children (plus one stillborn) and their birth/baptism records.

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