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« Svar #30 Dato: 23 Apr 2022 - 22:32 »
I might have tracked down Margarete Jensdatter's baptism, daughter of Jens Nielsen in Bielcherup, on Dom. 17 Trinit. (5 Oct 1732), 2nd entry on right:  https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17118800#156879,26303070.  Could I get a transcription?  Thanks.

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« Svar #31 Dato: 24 Apr 2022 - 13:02 »
Dom. 17. Trinitatis = 5. Oktober 1732.

"Døbt samme dag [same day] Jens Nilsens [normally Nielsens] barn Margarete [Jensdatter] af Bielcherup.
 Margarete Keys..? af Holtug baar det. [So she is the "Gudmor"]
Faddere: Hans Svendsen, Lars Henrichsen, Jens Cristoph[ersen's] søn Søfren, Dorthe Nielsdatter, Maren Nielsdatter."

NB: Søfren (/Søvren/) is the older form of modern Søren. [from Latin Severinus]

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« Svar #32 Dato: 24 Apr 2022 - 13:04 »
What does it say before Jens Hansen's name in this baptism record for Hans, 2 Jun 1771?  Young or old Jens?  3rd column, #6:  https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17118800#156880,26303212

I think it says "Den frie" [the free].
This could mean that this Jens Hansen was a self-owner and not a fæster!

Caution is short for Cautionist = Forlovere.
In Denmark you had one "Forlover" for the Groom [Groomsman] and one for the Bride (often her father or a brother) [Bridesman??]

Your question: "What is the word before Jens Hansen in this 17 Dec 1779 baptism of Maren?
I think it also says "Frie" at the beginning!
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« Svar #33 Dato: 24 Apr 2022 - 13:13 »

What does it say about Karen's baptism on 2 Feb 1763:  Column 2, #3, https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17118800#156880,26303195.  FS has the father indexed as Jens Hansen, but that's unclear to me:  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYN1-7ZF

"Jens Hansen, Universitetsbonde, hans datter Karen af Bielcherup d. 2. September."

Så this Jens Hansen has a fæste at the land owned by the Copenhagen University (which owned land in different parts of Denmark).

So we have a difference between a "free" (self-ower?) Jens Hansen and a "fæster" (at the Universitets Gods) Jens Hansen.

Your question: "Anything about young or old Jens Hansen in this 15 Sep 1776 baptism of Peter".
Sadly no information. It is also written "død", so this Peder died as a baby.

Your question: "This Hans bapt. 9 Oct 1768 was clearly identified as son of gl Jens Hansen, so unless he died, the other might be young Jens."
Correct. This child Hans also is stated as "død", so also died young as a baby.
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« Svar #34 Dato: 24 Apr 2022 - 13:53 »
Københavns Universitets Gods, III. Godsforvalterdistrikt
Register til skifteprotokol for universitetets gods i Præstø Amt (1755-1818).
Jens Hansen i Bielkerup. Pagina 307.
Kilde (s. 6): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=22806246#482781,33801640
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Københavns Universitets Gods, III. Godsforvalterdistrikt
Skifteprotokol for universitetets gods i Præstø Amt (1755-1818).
Skifte efter gaardmand afgangne Jens Hansen i Bielkerup.
Anno 1788, den 7de (?) September.
..efterladte enke Anna Jørgensdatter og den ?eneste? datter nafnlig Karen gift med frie mand Emanuel Pedersen. [he is perhaps a self-owner?]
Kilde (s. 311, venstre): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=22806242#482779,33801195

Folketælling 1787: Præstø, Stevns, Store Heddinge Landsogn, Bjelkerup, , 12. familie, FT 1787, A3914
Jens Hansen     60     gift     Husbond     Bonsk Gårdbeboer       [Fæster at Universitets Gods]
Anne Jørgensdatter     48     gift     Madmoder           
Emmanuel Pedersen     32     ugift     Tjenestekarl           
Karen Jensdatter     21     ugift     Tjenestepige    [So she must be the daughter of Jens Hansen & Anne Jørgensdatter]       
Jørgen Andersen     17     ugift     Tjenestedreng           
Ursula Jensdatter     79     enke     mandens moder     på aftægt      
Christen Gregersen     57     gift     Mand     Inderste      
Else Marie Andersdatter     49     gift     hans kone           
Karen Christensen     2     ugift     deres barn 
Kilde: Dansk Demografisk Database.
NB: Så Emanuel Pedersen & Karen Jensdatter is married between 1787-1788. 
This Jens Hansen has a mother Ursula Jensdatter who is still alive and "på aftægt".

So this Jens Hansen must be the "young" Jens Hansen, but definitely not the "gamle" Jens Hansen.
The one who as 60 years old is registred in the Folketælling 1787 as older, than "gamle" Jens Hansen!
Beware that both Jens Hansens have a daughter called Karen!
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« Svar #35 Dato: 24 Apr 2022 - 21:30 »
Niels, that's really incredibly helpful information.  Great find on the Skifteprotokol which clarifies the frie vs. fæster Jens Hansen.  I've written up Wikitree profiles for the two men and given you credit in the Acknowledgements: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hansen-18638 and https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hansen-18673.  Now it's on to Hans Jensen.  Since you mentioned how common is the name Ane Jensdatter, I'm guessing that Hans Jensen and Jens Hansen are right at the top of the list for men.  Thanks co much for everything.  Kerry     

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« Svar #36 Dato: 25 Apr 2022 - 19:19 »
Thank you! Just keep asking here if you have questions.
Yeah, Hans Jensen and Jens Hansen er among the most common male names!
Good hunt
Niels