RASMUSSEN

[Lissa Pedersen]

Hi,

Could this be the emigration record for Hans S(øren) Rasmussen, if he is the right one:

Name:  Rasmussen, Hans Søren Occupation:  Tyende (m/k land)
Age:  26 Destination:  New York
Contract no.:  37300 Registration date:  3/13/1889
Birth place:  ? Birth place:  ?
Last res. parish:  ? Last res. county:  Sorø
Last residence:  Taarnby Mølle (mill), Sorø Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  New York City Destination state:  New York State
Name of ship:  Denmark
Remarks:  SOS: Tårnby Mølle kan ikke lokaliseres i (cannot be located in) Sorø Amt (county). IDcode:  D8789R1715

Lissa
Lissa

[Lissa Pedersen]

Hans Søren Rasmussen born 30 December 1862 in Kirke Helsinge parish, his parents were young/unmarried girl Ane Hansdatter in Helsinge and alleged father bachelor Rasmus Sørensen from ??? (cannot read it). The churchbook is very difficult to read.

He was bapt. 15 March 1863 - cannot read when he was bapt. at home.

Lissa

[Lissa Pedersen]

"Last residence:  Taarnby Mølle (mill), Sorø Destination country:  USA"

There was a mill, Tadse or Tase Mill, in Sorø county:

Tase Mølle (Mill) Tystrup Øster Flakkebjerg Sorø (from www.krabsen.dk)

Perhaps not a mill? but a place name?

Lissa

[Jane C]

Hi Lissa -

Good find!!!

That could be the right Hans. I hope you'll look for more facts about that Hans (in the emigration record) and about Hans Rasmussen in Minnesota. And that some others in the forum will help.

At least one Hans Rasmussen who is NOT our Hans Rasmussen fits the emigration record you found:

"Hans Rasmussen born about 1863 became naturalized US citizen 20 JUN 1896. Arrival in Philadelphia USA 7 May 1889. Title and location of court where petition for naturalization was filed: Kings County, New York."

Hans Soren from Kirke Helsinge could still be the right guy - I'm just saying the record also seems to fit this other man.

I wish we could connect Hans Rasmussen in Minnesota with some brothers, sisters, or other family in Minnesota and ditto for Jensine (Sine) Molstad. If we could collect more names from their birth families, would help to find a more certain match in earlier years in Denmark.

[DALE RASMUSSEN]

You all are wonderful!  Thank you very much for taking the time to research.  I was disappointed today to receive the Sept. 28, 1918 death certificate from the MN Historical Society.  This Hans had cancer and kidney disease and appears to have died at Northwestern Hospital.  There are just 4 Hans Rasmussen's listed from 1910 to 1920.  There is another in Hennepin County who died in 1916.
Hans Soren...  The only place I've ever noticed a middle initial is in the 1905 MN Census and it was an "S".
You may have found him Lissa.

[Kirsten Tatt]

Name: Marie Elenora Rasmussen Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:  
Baptism/Christening Place:  
Birth Date: 13 Apr 1897
Birthplace: Saint Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota
Father's Name: Hans Rasmussen
Father's Birthplace: Denmark
Father's Age:  
Mother's Name: Jensine Milsted
Mother's Birthplace: Denmark
Mother's Age:  
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C74778-8
System Origin: Minnesota-EASy
Source Film Number: 1309128
Reference Number:

Back in Denmark,
Census 1870;

A house in Eriknauer, Hatting parish, Vejle
Jørgen Christian Jensen Mølsted,52, married,born Ølsted,housefather, carpenter
Mette Marie Andersdatter, 50, married, Tandrup[?] housemother
Mariane Noring[?] Jørgensen, 13,Hatting,daughter
Christian Jørgensen, 9, Hatting, son
Jensine Petrea Jørgensen,6, Hatting, daughter

Opslag 50

- and back to USA,

Could this be a sister to Jensine.
Jensine is born 18 feb 1863 as the youngest child - her mother was then 44

1. MARIAN MOLSTED - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Marriage: 08 MAR 1882 , Ramsey, Minnesota   

Kirsten

[Homer Ficken]

Dale, are there no family documents that tell where the family was living ca 1918?   There should be a probate, and a gravestone with dates.    Also, if they were Lutheran, the local church records of immigrants who died sometimes noted birth date and place when deaths were recorded.

[Jane C]

I haven't made any progress on Hans Rasmussen - Have we looked at both of the Hans Rasmussen's born December 1862? Hans Soren in Denmark fits with the 1905 census in Minnesota for Hans S, but that census taker also made his daughter "Florence S" when in fact her name is Florence Cecelia (per a finding posted by Dale).

Going along with Kirsten's post of the possible Jensine Molstad family in Hatting in 1870, I found this -

Vejle, Hatting, Ølsted, Ølsted Udflyttere, et Huus, 40, FT-1834, C4373
Jens Rasmussen Wilsted 61 Gift Tømmermand
Mariane Nørring 62 Gift hans Kone
Jørgen Christian Jensen 16 Ugift deres Søn
Marianne Pedersdatter 6 Ugift deres Pleiedatter
Else Marie Jensdatter 22 Ugift For Tiden under Fattig forsørgelsen


Bjerre herred [Vejle amount] Gejstlig skifteprotokol 1778-1817 C35A-4 1806 Marianne Jepsdatter g.m. Jens Mølsted, tømrer i Ølsted.

The name Jørgen also repeats in the New World (GEORGE Raymond Rasmussen).

Has anyone found a USA immigration record for Jensine Molstad that fits with the Danish emigration record Kirsten found? I haven't. I'll post Kirsten's record again here:

Name:  Mølsted, Jensine Occupation:  Tyende (kv. by)
Age:  21 Destination:  New York
Contract no.:  176200 Registration date:  6/25/1884
Last res. parish:  Horsens Last res. county:  Århus
Last residence:  Horsens Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  New York City Destination state:  New York State
Name of ship:  Thingvalla
Remarks:  ANM: Thingv. IDcode:  D8385M1306

http://www.emiarch.dk/search.php3?l=en

[Hanne Bjørn]

Jane have this sencus:
Vejle, Hatting, Ølsted, Ølsted Udflyttere, et Huus, 40, FT-1834, C4373
Jens Rasmussen Wilsted 61 Gift Tømmermand
Mariane Nørring 62 Gift hans Kone
Jørgen Christian Jensen 16 Ugift deres Søn
Marianne Pedersdatter 6 Ugift deres Pleiedatter
Else Marie Jensdatter 22 Ugift For Tiden under Fattig forsørgelsen

Jens Rasmussen Mølsted was born in Klakring parish. After his wife Mariane Nørring died 1836 in Ølsted op 213 he married again and moved to Hedensted parish. Mariane Nørring was daugther of a teacher  in Stenderup parish therefore she is mentioned in Gejstlige skifter. I have not found the marriage for Jens and Mariane because the churchbooks are very bad at that time for the parish both in Stenderup and Ølsted.
regards
Hanne Bjørn

[Homer Ficken]

Has anyone found a USA immigration record for Jensine Molstad that fits with the Danish emigration record Kirsten found? I haven't.

Jensine emigrated with her mother and brother:

Name:  Mølsted, Mette Occupation:  Hustru
Age:  65 Destination:  New York
Contract no.:  176300 Registration date:  6/25/1884
Last res. parish:  Horsens Last res. county:  Århus
Last residence:  Horsens Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  New York City Destination state:  New York State
Name of ship:  Thingvalla
Remarks:  ANM: Thingv. IDcode:  D8385M1307

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Name:  Mølsted, Jensine Occupation:  Tyende (kv. by)
Age:  21 Destination:  New York
Contract no.:  176200 Registration date:  6/25/1884
Last res. parish:  Horsens Last res. county:  Århus
Last residence:  Horsens Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  New York City Destination state:  New York State
Name of ship:  Thingvalla

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Name:  Mølsted, Marius Occupation:  Tyende (m. by)
Age:  32 Destination:  New York
Contract no.:  176100 Registration date:  6/25/1884
Last res. parish:  Horsens Last res. county:  Århus
Last residence:  Horsens Destination country:  USA
Destination city:  New York City Destination state:  New York State
Name of ship:  Thingvalla
Remarks:  ANM: Thingv. IDcode:  D8385M1305

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Attached is their listing on the Thingvalla, which arrived NY 12 July 1884
(Jensine is mislisted as Densine in Ancestry's index)

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[Jane C]

Hi Homer - well thank you! Amazingly, even now when I use "Densine" to search, with the exact date you've provided, and ship name - I still can't find her on Ancestry!

[Jane C]

I see them now on the Thingvalia! Marius is 11 years older than Jensine, so he's born about 1852.

Can the following man be this brother to Jensine Molstad from Hatting? In the churchbook - when does it say Jensine's brother Marius is born? This one is born December 1851.

Found a possible Marius Mølsted
1895 Minnesota State Census, St. Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota, USA
Maurice Milsted 43
Emma Milsted 30
Rudolph 9 months

and in 1900:
Maurice MILSTED 48, born December 1851 in Denmark. Immigrated 1886. 14 years in this country. Naturalized citizen. Carpenter.
Emma 35 born Minnesota
Rudolph 5
Maurice 4
Henry 2
Myrtle born just before the census

In 1910 Emma Milsted is a widow. She lives in Canemah, Clackamas, Oregon. Rudolph, Maurice, Henry, Myrtle, Lottie (=Charlotte), and Johnnie are with her.

In 1920 Emma MILSTEAD is a widow. She lives in Clackamas, Oregon with son Maurice 23, Myrtle 19, Charlotta 16, and John 13.

[Lissa Pedersen]

Hi,

There is a Marius Jørgensen Mølsted born 25 Dec 1851 in Hatting parish, Vejle county - born to Jørgen Christian Jensen Mølsted and Mette Marie Andersdatter, 32 yrs. old. It's opslag No. 7 (1851-1866).

The 1880 census is here:

vejle, Hatting, Hatting, Eriksnauer By, Hus, 3, FT-1880, C9912
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Mette Marie Andersen 60  Enke (widow) Husmoder  Tamdrup Sogn Skanderborg Amt
Marius Jørgensen Malsted 28  Ugift Søn  Hatting
Christian Jørgensen Malsted 19  Ugift Søn  Hatting

Lissa

[Jane C]

Yeah!

Vejle, Hatting, Hatting, Eriksnauer By, Hus, 3, FT-1880, C9912
Mette Marie Andersen 60  Enke Husmoder  Tamdrup Sogn Skanderborg Amt
Marius Jørgensen Malsted 28  Ugift Søn  Hatting  - he's born 25 December 1851 per Lissa
Christian Jørgensen Malsted 19  Ugift Søn  Hatting

So we can be pretty sure that Jensine Mølsted of Eriknauer in Hatting sogn immigrated with her brother Marius Jørgensen Mølsted and Marius went to Minnesota.

We find a birth record with Marius as father - important clue, because here he has the middle initial J.

M. J. Milsted
Minnesota Births and Christenings, 1840-1980
Spouse: Emma Milsted
Baby girl, 12 May 1900 (no name, but must be Myrtle)

Makes it likely that Jensine also came to Minnesota - and can well be the same woman as "Melstead" found as mother on the birth record for George Raymond Rasmussen!

Would really be great to get that death record for Jensine Rasmussen - it might confirm this.

[Lissa Pedersen]

Jørgen Kristian Jensen Mølsted died 27 April 1878, bur. 4 May, Hatting parish, opslag 6 (1874-1892).

Lissa

[Jane C]

Name: Sine G Milsted
Location 1: 412 St Anthony avenue
Occupation: housekpr
Year: 1890, 1891
City: St. Paul
State: MN (Minnesota, USA)

Ancestry.com. Original data:
•St. Paul City Directory, 1889-1890. St. Paul, MN: R. L. Polk and Co., 1890.
•St. Paul City Directory, 1890-1891. St. Paul, MN: R. L. Polk and Co., 1891.
Description:
Directory listing for some residents of St. Paul, Minnesota between 1889 and 1891

[Jane C]

Jørgen Kristian Jensen Mølsted died 27 April 1878, bur. 4 May, Hatting parish, opslag 6 (1874-1892).

Lissa

Ahhhh....Father to Jensine and Marius Jørgensen Mølstad and husband to Mette Andersdatter.
This is another "fit" between the family in Eriknauer, Hatting, and the family on the Thingvalla - that his wife/their mother would immigrate with her immigrating children.

[Lissa Pedersen]

Mariane Nørring died 25 July 1836, bur. 31 July, Ølsted parish, Vejle county - opslag 213 (1814-1840). She was 64 years old.

She could be here in 1787:

vejle, Hatting, Stenderup, Stenderup Sogn, , Stenderup Bye, 1, FT-1787
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Jeppe Nøhring 53  Gift Hosbonde Sogne Degn  (parish clerk)
Ellen Kirstine Borch 46  Gift Hans Kone  
Christian Nøhring 14  - Deres Børn  
Hans Nøhring 12  - Deres Børn  
Mariane Nøhring 16  - Deres Børn  
Friderike Nøhring 10  - Deres Børn  
Else Marie Nøhring 7  - Deres Børn  
Kirsten Olesdatter 35  Ugift Tieneste Pige

vejle, Hatting, Stenderup, Stenderup Sogn, , Stenderup, 1, FT-1801
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Jeppe Nøhring!! 66  Gift Mand Degn (clerk) og Skoeleholder  (schoolmaster)
Ellen Kirstine - Ellen Kirstine Borch!! 60  Gift hans Kone  
Charlotte Nøhring 32  Ugift Deres Børn  
Friderice Nøhring 24  Ugift Deres Børn  
Karen Christiansdatter 8  - Deres Børne Børn  (grandchildren)
Hansine Aagaard 1  - Deres Børne Børn (grandchildren)

Lissa

[Jane C]

Wonderful.

So looking upward at the discussion  , does anyone disagree that mother to George Raymond Rasmussen in Minnesota, USA, must be Jensine in the census below? Do we have enough evidence?

Census 1870
A house in Eriknauer, Hatting parish, Vejle
Jørgen Christian Jensen Mølsted,52, married,born Ølsted,housefather, carpenter
Mette Marie Andersdatter, 50, married, Tandrup[?] housemother
Mariane Noring[?] Jørgensen, 13,Hatting,daughter
Christian Jørgensen, 9, Hatting, son
Jensine Petrea Jørgensen, 6, Hatting, daughter

[Lissa Pedersen]

Jens Rasmussen Mølsted died 24 Sep 1847, bur. 1 Oct, in Hedensted parish, opslag 211 (1837-1853) - 73 yrs old. - smallholder n ? Dalby.

Lissa

[Lissa Pedersen]

On www.nygaards-sedler.dk you will find something about Jeppe Nøhring: http://nygaards-sedler.dk/viewpage.php?page_id=60&nr=3592&sort=e

Here is his daughter Mariane Nørring/Nøhring: http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=285477&sort=e

And here: http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=285478&sort=e

I cannot find Mariane in 1801 .. can anyone else?

Lissa

[Jane C]

That sounds like an interesting family. ; D

I think our evidence is strong!

For additional verification of the connection (between Eriknauer, Hatting sogn in Denmark) and Minnesota (Meeker County, Mille Lacs County, and the city of Saint Paul in Ramsey County) - Dale could seek:

1.  Jensine Rasmussen Minnesota death certificate brought up earlier
2.  Maurice Milsted death certificate (between 1900 and 1910)
3.  Jensine and Hans marriage record (perhaps on microfilm at Minnesota Historical Society, or in the churchbook of a Danish Lutheran Church, possibly in Saint Paul, but since we're not sure of location...)
4.  Contact with descendants who might know (this too is a long shot!) the Danish roots of the family

I think Florence Cecelia Rasmussen who married Harald/Henry Peter had a daughter Lois M. who married Milton F. Peper in Goodhue County, Minnesota. Not sure about that. If so, those descendants appear in an online obituary for Lois Margaret Peters Peper.

Here are some Milsted leads in Oregon (certainly and/or likely descendants of Marius/Maurice):

Milsted family members buried at Willamette National Cemetery in Portland, Oregon

Milstead, David Wayne, b. 07/20/1940, d. 05/26/1992, PFC USA, Vancouver; Clark; Washington, Plot: D 6714, bur. 06/02/1992, *
Milstead, James Clifton, b. 10/15/1922, d. 12/20/1981, S/SGT USA, Plot: C 1832, bur. 12/21/1981, *
Milsted, Helen June, b. 11/17/1919, d. 03/29/1984, Plot: 0 726, bur. 04/02/1984, *
Milsted, Henry James, b. 11/10/1942, d. 08/20/1964, SP-4 HQ TRP 9TH SQ 9TH CAV, Plot: F 5251, bur. 08/25/1964, *
Milsted, Henry William, b. 03/18/1898, d. 12/09/1980, PFC USMC, Plot: F 7125D, bur. 12/11/1980, *
Milsted, John H, b. 04/19/1906, d. 08/29/1977, PVT USMC, Plot: D 726, bur. 09/01/1977, *
Milsted, Mary M, b. 09/11/1907, d. 01/03/1992, Beaverton; Washington. Oregon, Plot: F 5858, bur. 01/06/1992, *
Milsted, Maurice C, b. 01/26/1896, d. 12/28/1965, PFC BTRY F 6TH FLD ARTY 1 DIV, Plot: F 5858, bur. 01/03/1966, *

[Hanne Bjørn]

Jens Rasmussen Mølsted lived at the sencus 1845 in Lille dalby, Hedensted parish.

Hans Søren Rasmussen born 1862 in Kirke Helsinge lived 1870 in Drøsselbjerg parish as fosterchild with Mads hansen and his wife op 26 and he was confirmed 1877 see Drøsselbjerg churchbook op 96.
Mads Hansen can be his mother´s brother and maybe his parents never married.
regards
Hanne Bjørn

[Kirsten Tatt]

Marius/Maurice's son Rudolph?

JACK R. MILSTEAD  Male    
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Event(s):
Birth:  About 1894   Saint Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota

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Parents:
 Father:  MEANINS MILSTEAD  Family
 Mother:  EMLIE  

___________________________________________________________________________
JACK R. MILSTEAD Pedigree
 Male   Family
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Event(s):
Birth:  About 1894   Saint Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota
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Marriages:
 Spouse:  MARIE LUCINDA SATTERWHITE  Family
 Marriage:  23 AUG 1919   Fredericksburg, Spotsylvania, Virginia  
 
A very short marriage:

Birth:  30 AUG 1884   Thornburg, Spotsylvania, Virginia

Christening: 
Death:  15 MAY 1921    , Spotsylvania, Virginia

Burial:  MAY 1921   , Spotsylvania, Virginia

   

[Jane C]

To Kirsten's question - Marius/Maurice's son Rudolph?

I think that Jack R. indeed could be the Rudolph - : D

[Lissa Pedersen]

Mariane Nøhring was born 1771 - date ? - in Svostrup parish, Viborg county, opslag 27 (1771-1795). Her father was Jeppe Nøhring, the mother not mentioned. As he was the schoolmaster in Svostrup according to the Nygaards Sedler, I tried that parish.

Take a look here: http://genealogy.hagerup.com/genealogy_base/fam/fam08195.html

More from Nygaards Sedler about Jeppe Nøhring: http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=285451&sort=f

And more: http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=285452&sort=f

and: http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=285453&sort=f

and: http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=285454&sort=f

and: http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=285455&sort=f

and: http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=285456&sort=f

and: http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=285457&sort=f

Lissa

[Ruth Steenberg Rasmussen]

Fault! - sorry

[Kirsten Tatt]

On the same day as Jensine sailed from Denmark these were also onboard:

Navn:  Mølsted, Bertha M. Stilling:  Hustru
Alder:  38 Bestemmelsessted:  St. Poul, Min.
Kontrakt nr.:  171400 Forevisningsdato:  6/25/1884 Sidste oph.sogn:  Kolding Sidste oph. amt:  Vejle
Sidste oph.sted:  Kolding Bestemmelses land:  USA
Bestemmelses by:  St. Paul Bestemmelses stat:  Minnesota
Skibsnavn:  Thingvalla
Bemærkninger:  ANM: Thingv. IDkode:  D8385M1303

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Navn:  Mølsted, Jørgine Stilling:  Barn
Alder:  00 3/4 Bestemmelsessted:  St. Poul, Min.
Kontrakt nr.:  171400 Forevisningsdato:  6/25/1884 Sidste oph.sogn:  Kolding Sidste oph. amt:  Vejle
Sidste oph.sted:  Kolding Bestemmelses land:  USA
Bestemmelses by:  St. Paul Bestemmelses stat:  Minnesota
Skibsnavn:  Thingvalla
Bemærkninger:  ANM: Thingv. IDkode:  D8385M1304


Bertha/Birthe is a sister of Jensine!!!

Birthe Marie Jørgensen f 1 jun 1845 Hatting sogn

Fruentimmer Mette Marie Andersdatter
..... pige i Erichnaur og snedkersvend
Jørgen Christian Jensen Mølsted som
skriftligt vedgik paterniteten.

opslag 61


Census 1 feb 1845
Samtlige personer i husstanden

Vejle, Hatting, Ølsted, Ølsted by, huus, 11, FT-1845, B2580
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Peder Sørensen Merring 51  Gift  huusmand og daglejer Korning sogn Vejle amt
Else Marie Sørensdatter 61  Gift  hans kone Hatting sogn Vejle amt
Mette Marie Andersdatter 26  Ugift  skæderpige Hatting sogn Vejle amt
 
Samtlige personer i husstanden

Vejle, Hatting, Ølsted, Ølsted by, gaard, 15, FT-1845, B2580
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Lauritz Jensen Vendelbo 63  Gift  gaardmand her i sognet
Mette Elisabeth Nielsdatter 60  Gift  hans kone her i sognet
Jens Lauritzen 23  Ugift  deres børn her i sognet
Johanne Margrethe Lauritzdatter 24  Ugift  deres børn her i sognet
Jørgen Christian Jensen 28  Ugift  tjenestefolk her i sognet
Ole Sørensen 21  Ugift  tjenestefolk Løsning sogn Vejle amt
Karen Christensdatter 20  Ugift  tjenestefolk Engum sogn Vejle amt
Karen Erichsdatter 18  Ugift  tjenestefolk Hornborg sogn Skanderborg amt

[Jane C]

Eureka!



Jensine's SISTER Bertha Mølsted is going to Saint Paul, Minnesota!

The evidence is mounting.

With Kirsten's discovery we can feel it is highly likely that Jensine Mølsted/Sine Milsted of Saint Paul (and nearby counties) has come there from Eriknauer, Hatting Sogn, in Vejle amount Denmark!

Please, parents - tell your children where you grew up! : D

[Lissa Pedersen]

Ellen Kirstine Borch married to Jeppe Nøhring - this could be her father Claus Clausen Borch/family:

http://www.control.auc.dk/~borch/HomePage/Generic/BorchFamilyTree/borch.web/per00161.htm#0

Ellen Kirstine is here: http://www.control.auc.dk/~borch/HomePage/Generic/BorchFamilyTree/borch.web/per00216.htm#0

Her husband Jeppe Nøhring is here: http://www.control.auc.dk/~borch/HomePage/Generic/BorchFamilyTree/borch.web/per00217.htm#0

You will find more pages with Klaus Borch - and his father etc. - on Nygaards Sedler, a.o. here: http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=40982&sort=e

Lissa