Help with finding a Death Record Please.

[aileen young]

Need help with finding the death record of my grandmother x 3 sister.

Caroline Maria Onsberg was born on 28 July 1769 record Vor Frelser, Hjeimslev,Skanderborg, Parents Jens Rasmussen Onsberg, Vagtmaster ved det Slesvigske Cavelleri Regiment and Mette Maria Jensdatter.

Caroline married  Corporal Johan Frederich Schopfe on August 1 1792 record Vor Frelser, Horsens, Nim, Skanderborg.
Children.
Mette Sophie Schopfe was born 23 December 1792 record Vor Frelser Horsens,Nim Skanderborg. Died March 8 1793 record Vor Frelser, Nim, Skanderborg.

The next record I found in Danish Family Search was,
Census 1801.
Randers,Stoving,Randers Kodstad
Johan Frederich Schiopte age 38 Vagtmester ved Jydske Regiment lette dragoner.
Caroline Maria age 23 hans kone.

In 1802 Caroline is mentioned in her mother's will/probate wife of Johan Frederich Schioffel underofficer i 1 Jydske Regiment i Arhus.

I found a marriage for Johan Frederich Schiopte to Mette Marie Hansdatter record 1 February 1811 Vor Frue Kirke Sokkelund Kobenhavn.
Johan's surname has been spelt a number of different ways.Schopfe,Schiopffe. Schopte, Schioffel

Any suggestions to where I should search would be very welcome.

Aileen Young.

[tove agerskov madsen]

Hvordan var Johans vej fra Århus 1802 til København 1810? Jeg har arbejdet med militære arkiver i forbindelse med en efterforskning, men det var senere i 1800-tallet. Det kan kræve en tur på Landsarkivet.
Caroline må være død undervejs. Har hun haft flere fødsler?
Jeg ville starte med Kirkebøger for Randers Købstad og København Vor Frue.
Eller det ville jeg ikke, når det 'kun' er søster til 3 x tip oldemor. Det er for vanskeligt :-)
Mon ikke også der inden længe kommer nye søgbare arkiver?
Mvh Tove

[aileen young]

Dear Tove, Thank you for your suggestions.

There have not been any further records of children born to Caroline, that I have been able to find.So I will start looking in the Church Books for Randers and Kobenhavn.
I have not been able to find any documentation on 1 Jyke Regiment moving to Kobenhavn, so Johan Frederich Schioffel must have left the army at some time.

I have found his 2nd wife in the 1840 census, surname spelt Soffer, right age, widow on a pension.

Have looked in Church Books for his Death, Garnison,Trinitatis,Alm.Hospital de Gamles. nil returns.

I have found on Danish Family Search Military Levyroll 1802 + as I can't not read Danish I don't know if they are the names of the solders or what information I could get from them.

Kind regards,
Aileen 

[Inger Toudal]

Your thread from 2012: https://forum.slaegt.dk/index.php/topic,45795

1801 Census, Randers: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1738059

- see Original Source: Surname is spelled Schiøpfe

2091 Mette Marie Jensdatter i Horsens. 17.12.1802, fol.436.
Enke efter Onsbjerg, vagtmester, skifte i den militære skifteret sluttet 12.4.1798.
B: Jens, løjtnant, Carl Herman 24, korporal, Karen 18, Kirstine Elisabeth 34 på Klintholm på Lolland,
Caroline Marie g.m. Schioffel, underofficer i 1. Jyske [Infanteri] Regiment i Århus,
Ottione g.m. Hartmann, kompagni kirurg i Fredericia.

- source: https://www.brejl.dk/horsens.html

The probate:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17176503#193821,32487623 - right page

Customs officer in Copenhagen:

Indskyder
Enkekassenummer:  9310
Johan Friderich Schiöpffe Kgl. Toldbetjent i Kiøbenhavn
Født: 11-02-1763 St. Nicolai, Königsberg i Preussen   Stempelmærke: Tyske stater
Død: 02-12-1835

Hustru:
Policenummer:  9310
Pensionspolice oprettet:     14-01-1811
Årlig Pension:     16     Indbetalt:  0    Afdragsordning:  87
Mette Marie Hansen
Født: 01-01-1780 
Død: 01-07-1853
Notat: Fødselsdato usikker. Dødsdato usikker.

- source: http://fogsgaard.org/index.php/2013-11-01-14-49-57/sogindskyder

Marriage 1 Feb. 1811 in Copenhagen Vor Frue:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119863#158942,26711366 - left page, top

1834 Census, Copenhagen: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid3169732

Joh. Friedr. Schøpfer in Kartotek over Fodfolkets underofficerer og spillemænd:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17022111#131766,21189858

- maybe somebody who's familiar with military records could have a look at this?

Venlig hilsen
Inger Toudal

[aileen young]

Thank you Inger, for all your very welcome information,

I will start looking for Caroline's in the church records of Kobenhavn as the men seem to married not long after their wives died.

Aileen

[Inger Toudal]

J. F. Schiøpfe was appointed as customs officer in Copenhagen 2 Jan. 1811: 

https://www2.statsbiblioteket.dk/mediestream/avis/record/doms_aviser_page%3Auuid%3A400f8cad-34ca-463a-a697-b72fbe0d07b7/query/schiopfe
- 1st column: Under General-Toldkammeret

https://www2.statsbiblioteket.dk/mediestream/avis/record/doms_aviser_page%3Auuid%3Acf7da45d-6b1d-4bb1-8690-1d3a51b2b941/query/general-toldkammeret - 1st column: Under General-Toldkammeret

- he was entl. Commandeersergeant, ie. former sergeant, but it doesn't say where he was living at the time.

Venlig hilsen
Inger