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« Dato: 13 Jan 2021 - 05:42 »
HI.  I'd like some assistance with record number 21 on this page.  I'm not sure if it's saying the mother doesn't know the town of the father? 
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=455510#455510,81475885

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« Svar #1 Dato: 13 Jan 2021 - 09:00 »
Yes, you are right. The mother does not know where the father lives.
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« Svar #2 Dato: 13 Jan 2021 - 09:52 »
A possibility
Haderslev, Frøs, Skodborg (Kongerigsk), Skodborg, , 10, FT-1834, C6801
Erich Prysse     34     Gift          Gjestgiver og Handelsmand      
Agnes Prysse     28     Gift          hans Kone      
Dorthea Schulz     52     Enke          Svigermoder      
H. Ch. Du...??     24     Ugift          Handelscompagnon      
Hans Gørring    41     Gift          Tjenestefolk 
  + 8 more serving people

and https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QG6R-SQ35 in 1840

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« Svar #3 Dato: 13 Jan 2021 - 19:17 »
Hans in Skodborg is the best I found so far.  I'm trying to figure out if it makes sense.  Is Skodborg too far away from Aastrup?  The mother would have been widowed in Aastrup with 2 children already.  Hans apparently worked at an Inn? and had a family of his own in Skodborg living separately.

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« Svar #4 Dato: 13 Jan 2021 - 20:04 »
Maybe it's this man Hans Andersen Gjørding in Skodborg, died Aug.26, 1851
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=455060#455060,81446574 right
son of late Anders Hansen in Gjørding and wife Dorthea Hansen.
1825 married to now late Karen Christens, with who he had 3 children, which all died.
Then married 1834 his surviving wife Anna Johanne Christens, with who he had 7 children,
from which are alive, Christen, Karen, Marie, Hanne Kjestine and Peter, all with the surname
Gjørding.  Age 62 years.

So if he is identical to Hans Gørring - his first wife died abt 1833 - Cathrine Maria Gørring (born Dec.4,1834)
was 'produced' primo March 1834 - he might well have been on search for a 2. wife at this time and met
Stine Schmidt somewhere in Haderslev county.

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« Svar #5 Dato: 13 Jan 2021 - 20:42 »
Thank you!!  I think this is the same man in the census.  If he didn't marry Anne Johanne until 1834, it makes more sense to me.  She did  have 3 children on the 1834 census and the boy in 1830 appeared to be his...named Anders Hansen Gørring, but I haven't found the birth record yet.

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« Svar #6 Dato: 13 Jan 2021 - 20:57 »
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=455055#455055,81446225

The birth of Anders Hansen Gjörring in Skodborg on 28 April 1830. Father Hans Andersen Gjørring. Mother Johanne Anne Christensen.

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=455055#455055,81446200

There is a daughter Dorthea Hansen b. on 26 Aug. 1825. Father is Hans Andersen and mother Johanne Anne Christensen.

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« Senest redigeret: 13 Jan 2021 - 21:08 af Eva Morfiadakis »
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« Svar #7 Dato: 13 Jan 2021 - 21:41 »
The last one is not correct - her name i Dorthea Adamsen and her father Jens Adamsen.

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« Svar #8 Dato: 13 Jan 2021 - 22:04 »
Sorry about the last one.

This child Dorthea Hansen  b. 1 May 1825 seems to be the daughter of Johanne Christensen in her marriage to Hans Hansen.? In Census 1834 there is a daughter Dorthea 9 years old. She has th name of her stepfather.

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« Svar #9 Dato: 13 Jan 2021 - 22:20 »
Thank you all.  The mother of the two older children was Karen Christens.  So, Ole's theory of Hans looking around for a new wife seems very good.  I still wonder about the distance betweem Skodborg and Aastrup.  Maybe it's not as much as I'm thinking.  Or maybe Hans had some family near Aastrup.

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« Svar #10 Dato: 14 Jan 2021 - 00:11 »
Some data in the death record of HAG in 1851 are not correct, as:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=455055#455055,81446237 nr 29. in 1833
Born 18 Jul. bp 20 ej.
Chresten Hansen Gørring, a leg. son of cottager Hans Andersen Gørring and Anna Johanne born Sørens here in Horshauge

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=455055#455055,81446250 nr 10 in 1836
Born 4 Feb.  bp 8 ej.
Karen Gjørding, a leg. daughter of HAG and Anne Johanne born Sørensen ...etc
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Confirmation of Dorothea Gjørding 1841 nr 21 - father Hans Gjørding - born 1825, 1.Mai
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=202408#202408,38365490
next pages:
Maren Gjørding - born 1827, 6.Decbr
Chresten Hansen Gjørding - born 1833,18.Juli
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Haderslev, Frøs, Skodborg (Kongerigsk), Skodborg, , 19, FT-1834, C6801
Anne Johanne                   25     Gift          Manden tjener      
Dorthea Gørding             9     Ugift          hendes Børn  (mother: Karen Christensdatter)     
Anders Hansen Gørding     4     Ugift          hendes Børn  (mother: Karen Christensdatter)    
Christen Hansen Gørding     1     Ugift          hendes Børn     

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« Svar #11 Dato: 14 Jan 2021 - 01:21 »
Thanks Ole!  I found the marriage record of Hans and Anne.  From 1832, so he was not unmarried when Catherine was conceived, but I still think he is the best option.  It appears that his wives were sisters, both born to Christian Sorensen and Maren if I am reading the records correctly.

ETA - I think Maren is in the same 1835 census page as Hans.  There is a Maren Hansdatter about the correct age.

Hans & Anne Marriage #2 (which I made a separate post for interpretation already)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=455057#455057,81446370

Death of Karen Christens #21
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=455056#455056,81446321
« Senest redigeret: 14 Jan 2021 - 01:50 af kmi20 »

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« Svar #12 Dato: 14 Jan 2021 - 09:26 »

I must have been tired last night. I see know that the mother of Dorthea and Anders was named Karen C.  I forgot to include the link to the birth of Dorthea on 1 May 1825.

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