Olsen Family from Copenhagen

Startet af RobertS, 30 Nov 2020 - 20:14

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RobertS

I have been researching my wife's grandfather and great grandfather/grandmother who all departed Denmark and settled in Hull, England. According to the Police Register, Copenhagen, their last known address was Rosengade 9 and they unsubscribed November 1896. I can find no records of them leaving Denmark or arriving in Hull where they first appear in the 1901 UK census. The grandfather Rasmus Hans Peter Olsen was born in Copenhagen on 7 Sept 1881, great grandfather Jens Peter Olsen was born in Roskilde 24 December 1857 and great grandmother Cathrine Veline Dorthea Olsen (nee Rasmussen) was born in Roskilde on 1 June 1862. Jens Peter Olsen was a sailor and Cathrine spent most of her time avoiding the police - she had rather a long record!
Many thanks,
Bob.

Britta Hansen

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Britta Hansen

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Inger Toudal

The last sign of your Olsen family in Copenhagen is from 1 May 1894:
Rosengade 9: https://kildeviser.kbharkiv.dk/#!?collection=2&item=7423492

The family is no longer registered at the address in November 1894:
https://kildeviser.kbharkiv.dk/#!?collection=2&item=7423452

The reason that the Police noticed this only in Nov. 1896, may be that there's another Olsen family living at the same address.

1895 Census, Rosengade 9: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=254924#254924,47708845

School protocol for son Rasmus Hans Peter Olsen 15 July 1890 - September 1890:
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn2886/skole5/source145946/opslag16453664

He was born 7 Sept. 1881 in Sundby parish:
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/churchbook/sogn672/churchlisting143718/opslag16085287 - No 154

Jens Peter Olsen was born 24  Dec. 1857 in Sankt Jørgensbjerg parish:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17224556#205402,38970397 - No 16

Cathrine Veline Dorothea Rasmussen was born 1 July 1862 in Roskilde:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21943727#436498,79153975 - No 24

1885 Census, Holmensgade 13: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid15344683

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Britta Hansen

#3
The last Police records of Cathrine Veline are: - addresses are not mentioned -

31 July 1894 - she was arrested and accused of theft.

13 August 1894 1895 - Løsladte efter udstaaet Straf [released after endured punishment]
30 days forced labour caused by breach of § 180 in the Criminal Law.
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Britta Hansen

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Inger Toudal

#4
Rasmus is living with his parents:

May 1892, Borgergade 79: https://kildeviser.kbharkiv.dk/#!?collection=2&item=5990402

Nov. 1892, Borgergade 79: https://kildeviser.kbharkiv.dk/#!?collection=2&item=5990091

May 1893, Prinsensgade 8: https://kildeviser.kbharkiv.dk/#!?collection=2&item=6285739

- but no longer in Nov. 1893 and May 1894:

Nov. 1893, Borgergade 76: https://kildeviser.kbharkiv.dk/#!?collection=2&item=5990638

- NB: Correct birth dates and places for his parents.

Rasmus was born in Sundby parish on the island of Amager: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amager

-"It was only in the late 19th century that Copenhagen began to expand onto the island (Sundbyerne),
and in 1902 these built-up areas were incorporated into Copenhagen."

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Bente Wanning

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https://www.ancestry.se/imageviewer/collections/61607/images/48792_344054000817_0055-00254?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=83c63c1b324af059e66534f56677f20a&usePUB=true&_phsrc=WwG3742&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=615945739 

Namn:   Cathrine Veline Dorothea Rasmussen
Kön:   Kvinde (Kvinna)
Typ av händelse:   ægteskab (Vigsel)
Födelsedatum:   1 jul 1862
Födelseort som den visas:   Roskilde
Make/maka:   Jens Peter Olsen           
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Hjørring amt <Skæve<Voer<Astrup<Åsted sogne
Hals Arkiv 9370
Medlem af DS Danmark -

Niels Just Rasmussen

#6
I just give an overview from "politiets registerblade".

Navn: Jens Peter Olsen
Født   24-12-1857
Køn   Mand
Erhverv   Sømand
Fødested   Roskilde
Ægtefælle:   Katrine Dortea Olsen. Born: 1/6 1862 in Roskilde [should be 1/7 1862]
Barn:   Rasmus Olsen
. Born: 7/9 1881.
Adresser:
01-05-1892   Borgergade 79, stuen
01-05-1893   Prinsensgade (Indre By) 8, 2. sal
01-11-1893   Borgergade 76, 2. sal
01-05-1894   Rosengade 9, 1. sal
01-11-1896   Frameldt
Kilde: https://kbharkiv.dk/brug-samlingerne/soeg-i-indtastede-kilder/post/17-719400

Marriage: 25. July 1881 in Sundby Sogn  - fra familysearch [til dem som ikke har ancestry].
Kilde (nr 265): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L948-XF3D?i=46&cc=2078555


Census 1901: Sculcoates All Saints, Yorkshire East Riding, England, United Kingdom
Jens Olsen   Head   Male   42   Denmark F
Katrine Olsen   Wife   Female   38   Denmark F
Rasmus Olsen   Son   Male   19   Denmark F
Gertrude Olsen   Daughter   Female   9   Denmark F
Annie Butler   Servant   Female   17   Hull, Yorkshire
Johannes P Jargenson   Boarder   Male   25   Denmark
Mary Shepherdson   Grand Mother   Female   82   Hessle, Yorkshire
kilde: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS9K-2ST

Only passenger lists of Copenhagen - Hull I can find are mormon lists.
See: https://saintsbysea.lib.byu.edu/browse_voyages/?port=Hull

Niels Just Rasmussen

#7
So in 1895, she was in Christianhavn prison.

Christianshavns Arrest
Register til journal over kvindelige arrestanter (1895).
Dato: 21. Juni 1895.
Journalnummer: 790.
Olsens hustru: Kathrine Veline D. Rasmussen.
Arrestnummer: B15
Kriminalkammer: V - ?Grænsehem? [eller hvad der nu står]
Kilde (s. 46): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21691024#409052,75798322
&
Christianshavns Arrest
Journal over kvindelige arrestanter (1895).
Nr 790: Kathrine Helene [= Veline] Dorthea Rasmussen. Olsens hustru. Født i Roskilde.
Arresteret: 21/6 1895.
Udgaaet: 10/7 1895. Til ?...? B1 (?) 60 [kan ikke helt tyde dette].
Anmærkninger: Straffet med v og b [= vand og brød]
Kilde (s. 140, nr 790): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21691022#409049,75797604

So the family should be somewhere in Copenhagen for the census in february 1895.