Re: my 6th GGParents I trying to locate information on them and document it

Startet af Lynn Christiansen, 17 Nov 2020 - 01:46

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Lynn Christiansen

I have documented my direct line back to my 5th great grandfather who is Daniel Jensen born in Stagstrup, Hassing, Thisted. His birth entry is 1648-1745 Stagstrup, Hassing, Thisted img 173 pg xx -left hand column next to last entry  https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1702/churchbook/source136321/opslag14809244

My transcription of this is as follows:

Year: 1694
No: left hand column next to last entry
Paa Mariæ Bebudelsisdag {at Annunciation, Lady Day} den             
25 Martii døbt it barn kaldet
DANIEL, Faderen Jens Lauritzen,
Modern Ellin Andersdaatter
af
Stagstrup, Fadder: Anne Niels
daatter bar barnet, Else Simons
daatter, Jens Jensen, Oluf Mo-
gensen, Christen Lauritzøn alle
af Stagstrup
   ----- and to the right next column over the following introduction of mother and child to the church:
Den 4. Søndag effter
Paaske den 6 Maii, -
blef Jens Lauritzøns
Hustru af Stagstrup
ved Nafn Ellin An-
derdaatter ind-
leed. {introducerede}

From this I believe his father is Jens Lauritzen and his mother is Elline Andersdatter. I am trying to document Jens Lauritzen's Birth and the Location of his birth, also for his mother Elline Andersdatter.

Here is where my problem comes into focus:

First: Jens Lauritzen

I have several leads from other individuals indicating Jens may have been born 15 May 1664 in Hvidbjerg Mors, Hvidbjerg Mors, Morsø Sønder, Thisted. I have located a Birth/Christening entry for a Jens Lauritzsen there at  1659-1807 Hvidbjerg Mors, Hvidbjerg Mors, Morsø Sønder, Thisted img 10 pg 31-3rd column 3rd entry
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1750/churchbook/source133414/opslag14369727      Transcription:

Year: 1664
No: 3rd column 3rd entry
15 Maj Rogate Lauritz Pedersen og Mette Jensdatter barn kaldet JENS frenlisen af Johanne H Matz Sefÿ Olesen

I have located a Marriage between Jens Lauritzen and Elline Andersdatter in 1648-1745 Stagstrup, Hassing, Thisted img 168 pg XX-last entry under marriage column 
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1702/churchbook/source136321/opslag14809239      Transcription:
Year: 1693
No: last entry under Marriage column
Dom: 18 post Trin {15 Oct 1693}: Jens Daniel ?? Lauridsen og Eline Andersdatr
?? ?? Viede

Need some help with this one. In the areas of the ??

Second: Jens Lauridsen Hundborg

A second Jens Lauridsen Hundborg was born about 1675 in Hillerslev, Hillerslev, Thisted, NO documentation associated with his birth. He was to have married an Ellen Andersdatter Born about 1673. According to Family Search he married Mette Sophie Christensdatter Aggerholm in Hillerslev in 1700 and married again to Ellen Andersdatter, no marriage information given. He was to have died in Hillerslev, Hillerslev, Thisted about the 20th of April 1726.

I need to find and document Jens Lauritsen and his spouse Elline Andersdatter in order to continue my direct line.

Any help and/or clarification would be appreciated.

Thank you


RIN  20224/20225
Research Areas: Thisted, Aarhus, Viborg

Ole Westermann

Lynn

I have been working a deal on this and found:

Betrothal & marriage 1693
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G944-F6QJ?i=167&wc=M5KX-FM9%3A357516601%2C357516602%2C357588601%2C357588602&cc=2078555

Dom. 11 post Trinit.* blef                           *27.august
Jenß Lauridtzøn og Ellin
Anderßdatter
trolofvede

Dom. 18 Post Trin.* blef Jenß                     *15.october
Lauridtzøn og Elline Anderßdat-
ter til Haabe** Viede.                                 **means: together

- nothing about their origin, which could indicate Stagstrup p.
- Ellen Andersdatter can't be found bapt. there - but

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L944-FX6D?i=61&wc=M5KX-FM9%3A357516601%2C357516602%2C357588601%2C357588602&cc=2078555
1664
Den 20 Søndag efter Trinitatis* døbt 1 Drenge                                                   *23.october
Barn kaldett JENß.  Faderen Laust Jensen  Moderen Kiersten Christenßdatter
Faddere, Nielß Jensen  Simon Thomasen  Dorethe
Thomasdatter oc Maren Michelßdatter.
   ----------------
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G944-F613?i=75&wc=M5KX-FM9%3A357516601%2C357516602%2C357588601%2C357588602&cc=2078555
1669
Dominica Septuagesima Døbt itt Drenge
Barn kaldett CHRISTEN*                                     *he is prob. later witness at the baptism of his brothers children
Faderen Lauritz Jensen i Stagstrup
Moderen Kirsten Christenßdatter
Faddere. Niels Jensen i Biarup, Peder Andersen
i Stagstrup, Erich Jensen i Stagstrup, Dorothe
Thomasdatter i Sundby, oc Anne Pederßdatter
Madß Knudsens pige i Stagstrup -
   ----------------
Betrothal/marriage LJ & KC
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L944-FXKS?i=58&wc=M5KX-FM9%3A357516601%2C357516602%2C357588601%2C357588602&cc=2078555
1663
2. Martii ere Trolofvede
Laust Jensøn oc Kiersten
Christensdatter
. Viede Do-
minica Lætare*                                *29.marts
   -------------------------
Burial of JL
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-8944-F67H?i=234&wc=M5KX-FM9%3A357516601%2C357516602%2C357588601%2C357588602&cc=2078555
1707 Den 30 Novembr. begraved Jens Lauritzen
af Staxstrup. Hands Alders 40 aar 7 Maa(neder)
3 Uger og 5 Dage (but is this correct? I doubt)
   ---------------------------
Ellen Andersdatter then marries Christen Pedersen Hammer, who dies medio July 1732 - probate August 12 (30th day)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=141309#141309,34609715
They had 1 son Jens Christensen, 23 yo

Ellen Andersdatter dies 1745 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L944-FF2Y?i=321&wc=M5KX-FM9%3A357516601%2C357516602%2C357588601%2C357588602&cc=2078555 bottom
..(Ma)rtii blef Ellen Ande(rsdatter) ...
                 i a(lde)rß 7?  (i.e. born ca 1770 ±4)
   --------------------
JL & EA's first son was named DANIEL on March 25, 1694 (Mariæ Bebudelsesdag) (image 173)
Witnesses: Anne Nielsdatter carried the child, Else Simonsdatter, Jens Jensen, Oluf Mogensen, Christen Lauritzøn*,
all from Stagstrup -  Question: was he named after EA's late husband Daniel ..... ? (from another parish)
   *prob. brother of JL (born 1669)

Something to work on.

mvh Ole

Lynn Christiansen

Thank you Ole---

Based on what you provided and with some further research and subsequent documentation I have been able to straighten out the bottle neck and get the families properly aligned.

What is interesting is that a Relationship, i.e. a 10th cousin 2x removed, which went through my father's Danish line and Jens Lauridsen that I was trying to verify now DOES NOT go through that Danish line. Instead, it appears that it now goes through my mother's English line and then crosses over to a different Danish line. The initial relationship appears to still be intact but via a different route with more to verify.

;D  ;D  ;D It appears that we may all be related at the 10th or 11th generation in one way or another.... ;D  ;D  ;D

Again thank you for your assistance.
Research Areas: Thisted, Aarhus, Viborg