Review/Correction of Transcription and Question Regarding Hans Frederich vs Hans

[Lynn Christiansen]

I have located and documented my 4th great grandfather, Jens Mortensen, his marriage to Ane Sørensdatter and 5 children One of their children is Hans Frederich Jensen.
His Birth is found in following parish register: 1764-1847 Ormslev, Ning, Aarhus img 32 pg 32a-3rd entry from bottom on left page

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-8947-D9RM?i=31&wc=M5VP-82X%3A357517401%2C358953201%2C359195901%2C359200501&cc=2078555

I have transcribed the following:
Year 1785
Numb: 3rd from bottom left page
1st column: Dom: 18 post Trin (d 25 Sept)
Føde column: Jens Knudsens barn ▼ Hans Friderich {an insert}  fra Constantinsborg. Johan[ne]
Baij bar det. Fadrer vare Sxxxxxx [title ?] Ambrosius  Charisius
{possible owner of Constantinsborg Manor at the time (1776-1787)}
?? Hoijer, informator Busch, og Kirsten Sture-
pige {house maid} alle fra Constantinsborg
3rd column: ?? de 26 do (ditto-Aug?)

Could someone please review and complete or correct my transcription?

He is listed as Hans Frederich Jensen in the 1787 Census for Harlev, Framlev Aarhus Census, age 2

http://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid162895

and the 1801 Census, at age 16

http://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1178781

I find in Family Search a Hans Frederich Jensen PID LCCV-YTZ, with several sources, however, when I view each of them they refer to a Hans Jensen.  NOT Hans FREDERICH Jensen.

Is it customary or a possibility that the middle name of Frederich would be or was dropped? Or are these sources attached to the wrong person?

I have located no other information on him, his wife or their family.

Thank you for any help and insight on my questions?


RIN 25900

[Ole Westermann]

Left margin:
Dom. 18 post Trin
den 25 Sept
Jens Kudskes* barn > Hans Friderich < fra Constantinsborg. Joh..?             *kudsk/kusk - driver/coachman
Bay bar det. Faderne vare Stamherren* Ambrosius  Carisius
   (owner of Constantinsborg Manor at the time (1776-1787))
Forvalter* Hoyer, informator Busch, og Kirsten stue-                                  *farm-bailiff
pige {house maid} alle fra Constantinsborg
right margin:
Feria
den 26 Dec (introduction)

*usually the oldest son at the estate, later to take over this - here it must mean the owner

I am not able to discuss your last considerations. Hans Jensen is a very common name.

mvh Ole

[Ole Westermann]

Do you know when and where Jens Mortensen died? - a possible probate.

[Lynn Christiansen]

Ole---I have Jens Mortensen dying at Harlev, Framlev, Aarhus on 4 Jan 1829; 1814-1837 Harlev, Framlev, Aarhus img 131 pg 188-#87

http://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn150/churchbook/source139882/opslag15407401

Where would you search for the Probate?

[Ole Westermann]

Lynn,

Probate index
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=193371#193371,32419283 left
Jens Mortensen, Harlevholm - Gaardmand 481 sl. 503

481  https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=193366#193366,32418243 left 1829 No.5
Summary:
Widow Anne Kirstine Pedersdatter
1. søn Hans Frederich Jensen i Jaungyde, fuldmyndig (of full age)
2.   -   Søren Jensen, hiemme i Stervboegaarden, fuldmyndig
3. dat. Maren? Jensdatter, gift med Boelsmand Lars Jensen paa Taastrup Mark i Randers Amt
4.   -    Bodil Jensdatter, gift med Boelsmand Thøger Bertelsen i Lemming
5. søn Peder Jensen, Kirkesanger og Skolelærer i Blegind, fuldmyndig
6. dat. Johanne Jensdatter, 22 Aar, ugift
7.   -    Anne Jensdatter, 16 Aar, ugift
8.   -    Kirsten Jensdatter, 9 Aar

Ends at 503 - https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=193366#193366,32418265 left No 5. (ends at top of p.505a)

Something to look at !

mvh Ole

[Ole Westermann]

I see that JM had married Ane Kirstine Pedersdatter 25.sept.1801
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=163449#163449,27453718
JM trolovet m. Ane Kirstine Pedersdatter 2.sept.1801
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=163449#163449,27453711 right - married 25.sept.1801

[Lynn Christiansen]

Thank you Ole.

Is there Name look up for the Probate Register? Or does one have to manually search?

[Ole Westermann]

At https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/geo/geo-collection/18
In Arkiv you must write Framlev and select Hasle-Vester Lisbjerg-Framlev-Sabro Herredsfoged and you see the
Navneregister til Skifteprotokoller (Name Index for Probate Protocols)
- it's on the first name of the persons - and sometimes spread around

[Lynn Christiansen]

Thank you.

I have used the Probate Records before but only when someone has directed my to a specific Probate.

This gives me a "Little" insight into the records.