Too many Jens Christian Christensen

Startet af Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland, 15 Maj 2020 - 03:36

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Hello,

My Jens Christian Christensen was born around 1817 I believe in Tranders, Fleskum, Ålborg, Denmark.

JCC has an illegitimate child with Anna Magdalena Gregersdatter named Jens Andersen Christensen on 10 Dec 1844 in Budolfi, Hornum, Ålborg, Denmark.  This child dies 20 Dec 1844 although I did not find a record in Budolfi but I think his baptism record mentions this.  Anna Magdalena Gregersdatter dies 13 Dec 1844 in Budolfi, Hornum, Ålborg, Denmark.

Birth Jens Andersen Christensen birth #80 here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21584058#356529,70433232

Death Anna Magdalena Gregersdatter on the right #89 here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21584058#356551,70436537

JCC has another illegitimate child with Karen Kirstine Nielsdatter named Mariane Christensdatter on 19 Jun 1847 also in Budolfi, Hornum, Ålborg, Denmark.

Birth Mariane Christensdatter #41 here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21584058#356532,70433545

Confirmation Mariane Christensdatter 1860 in Vor Frue, Kær, Ålborg, Denmark #19 here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89Z6-N7PH?cc=2078555

Death Mariane Christensdatter 15 Jul 1888 in Sønder Onsild, Sønder Onsild, Randers, Denmark #1 here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21585190#365535,70638601

From what I can glean from these documents it looks like JCC was born in Tranders, Fleskum, Ålborg, Denmark.  The problem I have is that I have located 3 JCC - 2 in Nørre Tranders and 1 in Sønder Tranders.

Nørre Tranders birth 20 Feb 1817 #7 here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21584070#356641,70442062  Son of Poul Christensen and Johanne Christensdatter

Nørre Tranders birth 19 Jun 1816 #7 here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21584070#356641,70442060 Son of Niels Christensen? Blok and Sidsel Jensdatter.

Sønder Tranders birth 26 Mar 1816 #3 here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21584074#356675,70443846  Son of Christen Nielsen and Maren Jensdatter.

Because of the year, I am assuming patronymics are still in use so I am leaning toward JCC in Sønder Tranders but I am not feeling confident.

This might be him with yet another woman.  :D

Year:   FT-1850   Source reference:   51   
Cadastre/Address:   et huus   
Household No:   2      Number af families/house:   1   
Name:   Jens Christian Christensen      Gender:   M   
Age:   33      Civil status:   Gift   
Birth place:   Sønder Tranders, A Amt   
Occupation:   dagleier   
Parish:   Budolfi Landsogn   District:   Hornum
Shire:   Aalborg   Place name:   Hasseris Bye
Source entry No:   C5697   Record No.:   5

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Jens Poulsen Bæch     59     Gift          huusmand, lever af sin jordlod, huusfader     Heri Sognet 
Ane Pedersdatter     78     Gift          hans kone     Dall Sogn A. Amt 
Jens Christian Christensen     33     Gift          dagleier     Sønder Tranders, A Amt 
Kirsten Christensdatter     29     Gift          hans kone, huusfaderens pleiedatter     Heri Sognet 

Not sure if this one is him:

Year:   FT-1845   Source reference:   5   
Cadastre/Address:   Et huus   
Household No:   2      Number af families/house:   1   
Name:   Jens Christian Christensen      Gender:   M   
Age:   28      Civil status:   Ugift   
Birth place:   Tranders Aalborg amt   
Occupation:   Inderste og arbeidskarl   
Parish:   Budolfi Landsogn   District:   Hornum
Shire:   Aalborg   Place name:   Hasseriis Bye
Source entry No:   b8712   Record No.:   7

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Jens Poulsen Bach     65     Gift          Huusmand og skræder     Heri sognet 
Ane Pedersdatter     75     Gift          Hans kone     Dahl sogn Aalborg amt 
Kjersten Pedersdatter     24     Ugift          Deres pleiedatter     Heri sognet 
Jens Christian Christensen     28     Ugift          Inderste og arbeidskarl     Tranders Aalborg amt 

I cannot read the documents well enough to know what his occupation is or if there is any information about where he is living.

Any help sorting this out is greatly appreciated.

Inger Toudal

Jens Christian Christensen in 1844 is Tjenestekarl.

- the child was baptized at home in Frue Sogn 20 Dec. 1844, and died there 22 Dec. 1844

Jens Christian Christensen in 1848 is Muursvend.

Maybe this one:

Aalborg, Fleskum, Aalborg Købstad, Urbansgade, 2 Rode, F10, 153 (152), FT-1850, C9967
Name:     Age     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birthplace:
Jens Chr Christensen     38     Ugift            mursvend      Louns Viborg Amt
Marie Jensen     36     Ugift                  Aarhus Aarhus Amt 
Birthe Cathrine     3     Ugift            deres barn      Aalborg Aalborg Amt 

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Thank you Inger.

I could not find a "Louns" (Lovns) in Viborg.  There was a Lovns in Ålborg but I did not find a birth record for a Jens Christian Christensen there 1808-1815.

Inger Toudal

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I found the daughter Birgitte Cathrine Christensen b. 2 Sep. 1847:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21584058#356532,70433547 - No 56

- the mother is born in Aarhus

- daughter baptized 1 May 1848:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21584066#356618,70438992

The father is Muursvend Niels Christian Christensen, though.

He marries the mother 22 Nov. 1850:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17148273#188613,31880289 - right page

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21584066#356621,70439208

The 1850 Census has his name as Jens Chr Christensen: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid7749255

Could he possibly be the father of Mariane, also b. 1847 ??

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Inger Toudal

As it turned out that the name of Muursvend Jens Chr. Christensen in the 1850 Census actually was Niels Chr. Christensen,
I started searching for another candidate. He is here:

Aalborg, Fleskum, Aalborg Købstad, Wingaardsstræde, No. 25 b ved siden af, 47, FT-1845, A4473
Name:     Age     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birthplace:
Sophie Jonasdatter     48     Ugift            Vadskning      Aalborg 
Jens Christian     25     Ugift            hendes Søn i Muurlære      Aalborg      [apprentice]
Hendrik Snorr     55     Enke(mand)            Arbejdsmand      Aalborg 

- and perhaps here:

Aalborg, Fleskum, Aalborg Købstad, Skoemagergade, No. 307 lit. a, 2den familie, 640, FT-1834, B6292
Name:     Age     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     
Sophie Christensdatter     37     Ugift            Haandlanger ved Muuren       
Jens Christian     14     Ugift            Hendes børn       
Ane Kirstine     12     Ugift            Hendes børn       
Ane Marie     8     Ugift            Hendes børn       
Karen Marie     6     Ugift            Hendes børn   

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Inger Toudal

His surname is Villadsen.

Confirmation 1835: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21584066#356603,70438411 - No 5

Birth: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21584058#356510,70432716 - No 40

1860 Census, Holbæk Købstad: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid14498068

Possibly he was also called Christensen after his mother ??

Not sure that's much help...

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#6
Thank you Inger.  That Villadsen JCC looks like a possiblity.  I just wonder where Mariane came from.  Mariane's maternal grandmother was Birthe Poulsdatter and if this is my JCC then the paternal grandmother is Sophie.

I know naming conventions were not always followed but Mariane's mother did not even have a sister named Mariane.

I wonder why he uses Christensen sometimes and Villardsen other times.

It is interesting the Sophie had so many illegitimate children with so many different men.  I have not come across that before.

Inger Toudal

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I don't know, if Jens Christian, b. 1820, did use Christensen. His official surname/patronymic was Villadsen.

- and even more uncertain, whether he is the father of Mariane.

In the 1834 and 1845 censuses, only his given name Jens Christian is listed.
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Maybe Mariane, b. 1847, was named after her godmother, Madame Simoni:

Aalborg, Fleskum, Aalborg Købstad, Nyetorv, No. 468, 179, FT-1845, A4473
Name:     Age     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birthplace:
Frederik Simonie     39     Enke(mand)            Kjøbmand og Borgelig Raadmand      Aalborg 
Marthe Simonie     4     -            hans Barn      Aalborg 
Henriette Simonie     1     -            hans Barn      Aalborg 
Mariane Bay     19     Ugift            Huusjomfrue      Mariager 
Birgitte Petersen     32     Ugift            Tjenestepige      Aalborg 
Marie Hybner     20     Ugift            Tjenestepige      Aalborg 
Karen Nielsdatter     26     Ugift            Amme      Fastrup [Aalborg] 

Aalborg, Fleskum, Aalborg Købstad, Nytorv, 6 Rode, F2, 506 (468), FT-1850, C9967
Name:     Age     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birthplace:
Frederik Sineoi     44     Gift            købmand ?? raadmand      Aalborg Aalborg Amt 
Mariane Sineoi født Bay     23     Gift            hans kone      Mariager Randers Amt
Marthine     8     Ugift            hans datter      Aalborg Aalborg Amt 
Henriette     5     Ugift            hans datter      Aalborg Aalborg Amt 
Laura Hiordt     30     Ugift            husjomfru      Ribe Ribe Amt 
Karen Nielsdatter     32     Ugift            tjenestepige      Løgstør Aalborg Amt 

- married 1846: https://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=351277&sort=e

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Thank you Inger.  I am still stumped on this one.  I am not sure now that he is JCC Villardsen or if he is a different JCC.  I will have to keep looking.