Possible twins born to Anders Nielsen Væver but only 1 baptism

Startet af Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland, 21 Mar 2020 - 23:09

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Hello,

My Anders Nielsen Væver and his wife, Sidsel Hansdatter, were engaged 17 Jan 1782 in Krejbjerg, Rødding, Viborg, Denmark and married 10 Mar 1782 also in Krejbjerg.

They appear to have had twins, Maren Andersdatter and Hans Andersen Væver on 1 Advent 1783 or 30 Nov 1783 in Krejbjerg, Rødding, Viborg, Denmark.

The baptism for Hans appears to be in 1784 but says 1 Advent which tells me he was probably born 30 Nov 1783 but I do not see any mention of "tvilling" in the baptism record or the name Maren.

Then I have the death of Maren Andersdatter on 4 Advent 1783, or 21 Dec 1783, and she is 4 weeks which ties in to a birth around the end of Nov 1783 but there is no mention in the burial that she is a twin.

Baptism for Hans Andersen Væver here 1st entry for 1784: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17124660#165831,27859259

Death for Maren Andersdatter age 4 weeks here 1 entry for females in 1783: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17124660#165831,27859302

So I started to think that Maren was born in 1782 and her burial of 4 Advent is actually relating to 1782 and not 1783 but I do not see a birth for her in 1782 either.

Tying into the previous post I find Hans Andersen Væver on the 1787 census with his father Anders Nielsen Væver as follows:

Year:   FT-1787   Source reference:      
Household No:      
Name:   Anders Nielsen      Gender:   M   
Age:   34      Civil status:   Gift   
Position in household:   mand      Occupation:   husmand og tømmermand   
No of marriage:   1   
Parish:   Krejbjerg   District:   Rødding
Shire:   Viborg   Place name:   Krejbjerg by
Source entry No:   C4137   Record No.:   116

Niels Espensen     60     Gift     mand     husmand      
Karen Olesdatter     53     Gift     hans kone           

Anders Nielsen     34     Gift     mand     husmand og tømmermand      
Zidsel Hansdatter     26     Gift     hans kone           
Hans Andersen     3     Ugift     deres barn           
Dorthe Cathrine Andersdatter     2     Ugift     deres barn           

Niels Espensen     74     Gift     mand     husmand og bonde      
Maren Andersdatter     66     Gift     hans kone           
Anne Nielsdatter     36     Ugift     deres barn 

The father of Anders is Niels Espensen Væver but as you can see there is one just before my Anders on the census and one after his family so I am not sure which one, if any, is his father.  I tend to think it is the Niels Espensen aged 74 because his wife is Maren Andersdatter and my Anders did not have any daughters that he named Karen.  The challenge I have is that the Niels Espensen age 74 is listed as a farmer but is sometimes referred to as Niels Væver (Weaver).

There is no clue on the actual census document that I can see to tell me which Niels Espensen Væver is his father.

1787 Census here: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid779279

Ole Westermann

ANV and SH. - I do not see the betrothal and marriage in Krejberg. Where have you seen it?

They get a daughter ult. Nov.82, bapt. Maren (but the vicar has forgotten to record it)
                                                        Maren dies 4 weeks old and is buried Dec.22, 1782
Then they get Hans, who is bapt. at home and publ. in church Nov.28, 1783 (The church year 1784 starts that day)

mvh Ole

Thank you Ole!  That is kind of what I thought about the two children.

The marriage can be found here on the right side of the page near half-way down.  It is the first entry for 1782: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17124660#165831,27859289

Do you have any thought about which Niels Espensen is the father of Anders Nielsen Væver?