Bartolomeus Helsemans/Helsemann

[Katherine]

Who can help me finding more information about Bartolomeus Helsemann/Helsemans

He is born in Luyksgestel Holland but came to Denmark, kobberhandler.
He married 48 year old with Maria Elisabeth Busch on 25 juli 1881 in Feldballe and Norager (familysearch.com), can somebody tell how it is possible to have 2 places???

I want to know his death date and every information, places where he was living and children???
Who can help me, i dont speak danish unfortunately...

Thanks a lot.

[Lennarth Nielsen]

hi Katherine,

I looked for the marriage in both Feldballe and Nørager parish and it only appears in Feldballe:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=369029#369029,70721252

The reason could be that Marie is stated as a widow and then married in Nørager parish earlier. It also states that she's born Honeré, married second time and that she's 61 years old, so I reckon that she didn't get any children in that marriage. At their marriage his name is written Bartholomæus Helsemann.

I found the two in a census for Ebeltoft parish in 1890:
https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/cid12136923

Place of birth (fødested) for her in that census states Frederecia.

Searching ddd.dda.dk I found the census for 1901 as well - place is Ebeltoft Købstad:


Navn:   Bartholomæus Helsermans   Køn:   M
Fødselsdato:   18330329   Civilstand:   E
Stilling i husstanden:   Husfader   Fødested:   Holland
Erhverv:   Kobberhandler m m
Kildehenvisning:   Hovedliste   trossamfund:   Katolik
Ejerens navn:   Kobberhandler Helsermans
Forhus/baghus:   kælder
Flyttet til kommunen:   1850
Sidste opholdssted:   Horsens
Gift hvornår:   1881   Ægtefælle død:   1896
Antal levende børn:   0   Antal døde børn:   0
Kilde:   FT-1901   Husstands-/familienr:   225
Adresse:   Ovengade   Gadenr:   -
Sogn:   Ebeltoft Købstad   Herred:   Mols
Amt:   Randers
Indtastningsnr:   E0360   Løbenr.:   980

Samtlige personer i husstanden
Randers, Mols, Ebeltoft Købstad, , 105, 225, FT-1901, E0360
Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Bartholomæus Helsermans   18330329     E     Husfader     Kobberhandler m m     Holland 

The E indicates that he's a widow (enke) and his spouse died in 1896. It also states that there're 0 living and 0 dead children.

I looked for his death on ancestry.se, where a lot of  church records have been digitalised. Looking for Bartholomæus I found his death in Århus romersk-katolske menigheds sogn:
https://www.ancestry.se/interactive/61607/48619_32021000952_1135-00074?pid=13207951&backurl=https://search.ancestry.se/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DZzu7%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D61607%26gsfn%3DBartholom%25C3%25A6us%26gsfn_x%3D1%26cp%3D0%26_83004003-n_xcl%3Df%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26uidh%3Dmjx%26redir%3Dfalse%26gss%3Dangs-d%26pcat%3D34%26fh%3D14%26h%3D13207951%26recoff%3D%26ml_rpos%3D15%26queryId%3D6426e51e0bada1886c2776c5a76b963d&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=6426e51e0bada1886c2776c5a76b963d&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Zzu7&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.211778645.1916768182.1584733307-28664912.1584733307

You probably need to register to view the link, but it's free, so no worries about that. In one of the columns in his row the word Stedbørn is written. It means stepchildren, so Marie probably had some children from her first marriage. Actually, there're two records from his death, so here's the other one:
https://www.ancestry.se/interactive/61607/48619_32021000952_1136-00212?pid=11497741&backurl=https://search.ancestry.se/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DZzu9%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D61607%26gsfn%3DBartholom%25C3%25A6us%26gsfn_x%3D1%26cp%3D0%26_83004003-n_xcl%3Df%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26uidh%3Dmjx%26redir%3Dfalse%26gss%3Dangs-d%26pcat%3D34%26fh%3D10%26h%3D11497741%26recoff%3D%26ml_rpos%3D11%26queryId%3D6426e51e0bada1886c2776c5a76b963d&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=6426e51e0bada1886c2776c5a76b963d&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Zzu9&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.252468297.1916768182.1584733307-28664912.1584733307

I looked again on ddd.dda.dk for Marie's lastname the first time she married - Busch. In Ebeltoft Købstad I found her as widow with three children in 1860:

Randers, Mols, Ebeltoft Købstad, , , 43, FT-1860, D7697
Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Marie Elisabeth Busch *f. Honoré     40     E     *har Restaurantion          Frederitz 
Carl Busch     17     U     *hendes Søn          Ebeltoft 
Joseph Busch     13     U     *hendes Søn          Ebeltoft 
Napoleon Heinrich Busch     4     U     *hendes Søn          Ebeltoft 
Ane Mette Jacobsen     26     U     Tjenestepige          Tveed, Randers Amt 

And in the 1850 census:
Randers, Mols, Ebeltoft Købstad, Overgade, 44b - 44g, 42-F3, FT-1850, D3174
Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Frederik Busch     40     Gift          Institutbestyrer     Vordingborg 
Marie Hansen     29     Gift          hans kone     Fredericia 
Carl Bufen     7     -          Sammes barn     Ebeltoft 
Camille Bufen     4     -          Sammes barn     Ebeltoft 
Jesper Bufen     2     -          Sammes barn     Ebeltoft 

Census in 1845:
Randers, Mols, Ebeltoft Købstad, Ebeltoft Kiøbstad, Østre Deel, , FT-1845, B7982
Frederik Busch     34     Gift          institutbestyrer     Vordingborg sogn 
Elisebed Honoøe     25     Gift          hans kone     Fredericia 
Sophie Busch     5     Ugift          hans børn     Ebeltoft 
Carl Busch     2     Ugift          hans børn     do [Ebeltoft] 
Ladvig Ammulbøll     15     Ugift          huusfaderens familie     Rou?? 
Marie Winther     20     Ugift          hans tjenestepige     Ebeltoft


Have a nice weekend.

Kind regards,

Lennarth

[Katherine]

Thank you for helping me!!

[Inger Toudal]

Feldballe and Nødager are neighbouring parishes: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17122552#161730,27173671

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17122552#161730,27173672

- Nødager is corrected to Feldballe !!

His death record can also be found here:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21638108#402436,74543691 - No 53

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21638108#402430,74543519 - No 160

- cause of death: Morbus cordis (heart disease)

Venlig hilsen
Inger Toudal

[Katherine]

Thank you!!!

[Inger Toudal]

Randers, Mols, Ebeltoft Købstad, Adelgade 64, Forhus, 62, FT-1880, D3900
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birthplace:
Else Marie Eikens     65     Enke      Husmoder, Købmandsenke            Ebeltoft 
Anders Peter Eikens     35     Ugift      Hendes Søn, Sagfører            Ebeltoft 
Johanne Eikens     31     Ugift      Hendes Datter            Ebeltoft 
Fransiska Eikens     25     Ugift      Hendes Datter            Ebeltoft 
Bartholemeus Helseminus !!     44     Ugift      Kobberhandler            Holland 

According to the 1901 census, he moved to Ebeltoft from Horsens in 1850: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid19965448

Could be:

Randers, Djurs Sønder, Tirstrup, Thirstrup, Thirstrup Kroe, 46.3, FT-1860, C8331
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birthplace:
B ??Holsermantz     23     Ugift      Kobberhandler            Holland
Christen Pedersen     24     Ugift      Hans tjenestekarl            ??Visborg Sogn Ringkjøbing Amt 

- source: 166

1860 Census, Tirstrup: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=9757#9757,234832 - right page, top

Tirstrup is a neighbouring parish to Feldballe and Nødager.

Venlig hilsen
Inger