Needing help trying straighten out a 3rd great granduncle's family arrangement

Startet af Lynn Christiansen, 18 Mar 2020 - 21:28

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Lynn Christiansen

Here is my quandary:

I have a 3rd Great GrandUncle: Mathias Weis

Events in his life:
Born: 18 Mar 1801 in Aarhus Domsogn, Hasle, Aarhus
    https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn171/churchbook/source144409/opslag16210010
Confirmation: 2 Apr 18155 Aarhus Vor Frue, Hasle, Aarhus
    https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn179/churchbook/source144499/opslag16226957
Citizen of Aarhus: 1 Nov 1830 from Aarhus Folket in midten,
    http://www.folketimidten.dk/borgerbog.cgi --Search on Ma% We%
Marriage to Johanne Marie Elisabeth Jørgensen on 8 May 1833 in Aarhus Domsogn
    https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn171/churchbook/source142971/opslag15957143

This is where the problem arises.

From the Aarhus Censuses for 1834, 1840, 1845, I find him married to an Ane Johanne Holmstrup, or variations of her name.
In the 1850 Census for Aarhus, he is living in the Aarhus Fattigstiftelse as a "Divorced" individual.

I have located his death on 14 May 1850 in Aarhus Vor Frue, Hasle, Aarhus.
    https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn179/churchbook/source2204/opslag1449715

I have not been able to locate a death for Johanne Marie Elisabeth Jørgensen, assuming she died about 1833, before a 2nd marriage.
I have not located a Marriage entry for Mathias Weis with Anne Johanne Elisabeth Holmstrøm, which produced a son Jørgen Peder Weis on 2 Nov 1833 in Aarhus Domsogn area.
Anne Johanne Elisabeth Holmstrøm was born 4 Aug 1794 in Aarhus Domsogn and married a Mathias Peter Jørgensen on 6 Nov 1821 and he died 13 Aug 1828 in Aarhus Domsogn, leaving her a widow.

Question: I believe Johanne Marie Elisabeth Jørgensen and Anne Johanne Elisabeth Holmstrøm are one and the same person.

Through various documents I have found that Johanne Marie Elisabeth Jørgensen was born ABOUT 1794 and I have documented that Anne Johanne Elisabeth Holmstrø was born 4 Aug 1794:
     https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn171/churchbook/source143709/opslag16082701
Anne Johanne Elisabeth Holmstrøm married a Mathias Peter Jørgensen and he died within 7 years (by 1828), hence the Jørgensen surname.

Are my thoughts correct OR am I off base and there are 2 different wives?

Are there divorced documents available? If so, where does one look for them?


Any thoughts would be welcomed.  Thank you....


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Research Areas: Thisted, Aarhus, Viborg

Ole Westermann

Hi Lynn

Mathias Weis had only 1 wife - but her name written in several ways.

Probate
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=192191#192191,32241235
Weis Slagter his wife born Holmstrøm p.450?
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=192193#192193,32241636 left top
1849, 31 Marts
Skifte efter Slagtermester Weis' afdøde Kone Johanne Elisabeth Weis, født Holmstrøm -
Weis had for longer time been in 'Fattigstiftelsen'

Here she is in the church records
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=383620#383620,74062268 nr 14 in 1849
Died March 18, buried 23, Anne Johanne Elisabeth Weis, Slagter Weises Hustru hos Væver Andreasen ... 54 yo - prob. from TB (Tæring)

Probate
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=192195#192195,32242187
Weis Mathias Slagter fol 607
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=192197#192197,32242633 down left
May 28,1850 - 4. MW leaves noting behind -
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Aarhus, Hasle, Aarhus Købstad, Frederiksgade, Nr 599, , 849, FT-1834, B3334
Mathias Weis     33     Gift          Slagtermester      
Ane Holmstrup     39     Gift          hans Kone      
Anthon Weis     10     Ugift          deres søn      
Jørgen Weis     1     Ugift          deres søn      
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Aarhus, Hasle, Aarhus Købstad, MIDDELGADE - WESTRE SIDE, AARHUS KØBSTAD, 130, FT-1840, A4182
MARTIN WEIS                     39     gift          SLAGTER      
ANE JOHANNE HOLMSLAND     46     gift          HANS KONE      
ANTHON FREDERIK JØRGENSEN 17     ugift          HUUSFADERENS STEDSØN OG ER I SLAGTERLÆRE HOS FADEREN      
JØRGEN PETER WEIS      7     ugift          DERES EGEN SØN 
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Aarhus, Hasle, Aarhus Købstad, Rosenberggyden, 85, 1, FT-1845, A2013
Matiis Weis     44     Gift          slagtermester     Århus 
Ane Johane Haalmstrøm     50     Gift          hans kone     Århus 
Jørgen Peter Weis     11     Ugift          deres søn     Århus 
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Mathias Weis was a bachelor, when hen married the widow Johanne Marie Elisabeth Jørgensen on May 8,1833
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-9943-Z3K2?i=206&cc=2078555&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQG3T-V7GL
- and she had the Jørgensen-surname after her first husband

mvh Ole

Lynn Christiansen

Ole--Thank you for your feedback and help.

Question regarding
Citathttps://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=192193#192193,32241636 left top
1849, 31 Marts
Skifte efter Slagtermester Weis' afdøde Kone Johanne Elisabeth Weis, født Holmstrøm -
Weis had for longer time been in 'Fattigstiftelsen'

There is a reference to Slagter Weis's kone Johanne Elisabeth ... also at the bottom of that same page i.e. #2:: What is the significance of two entries?

Does one pertain to Slagter Mathias Weis's probate and the other to his wife Johanne's probate ? They died 10 months apart. She before him.

Thank you.....
Research Areas: Thisted, Aarhus, Viborg

Ole Westermann

Lynn

#2 near the bottom is a continuation of the probate above, and it shortly states that the expenses by her funeral were
much higher that the value of her estate, so that was given to her landlord, who had payed her funeral.

The probates of Mathias and his wife Johanne are in 2 different protocols from the same period.

mvh Ole

Lynn Christiansen

Research Areas: Thisted, Aarhus, Viborg