Need help deciphering birth record for Niels Daniel Andersen

Startet af Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland, 18 Mar 2020 - 07:14

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Hello,

My Niels Daniel Andersen was born around 1816 apparently in Fredensborg, Frederiksborg, Denmark.  The only birth that I could find appears to say Niels Danielsen and I cannot decipher the father's name to know if it says Anders.  To me it looks like Christen Druhophes? but my vision is bad.  The baptisms on this page include the patronymic surnames.

According to a GENI page Niels Daniel Andersen was born in Helsingør in 1815 but I could not find a birth for him in Helsingør Domkirkes 1815-1817.  On Family Search they have a Niels Danielsen Andersen born 18 Nov 1815 and baptised 30 Jun 1816 in Fredensborg which is the one I found but the parents they have are Anders Andersen and Sidse Nielsdatter.

Birth #6 here and the mother is Sidse Nielsdatter but I cannot decipher the father: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=21618437#420592,77163291

This is the other birth record #6 here and it has some comments around the date of birth that I cannot decipher and this record does not help me decipher the name of the father.  The mother is clearly Sidse Nielsdatter.: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=203589#203589,38612304

He marries Ellen Pedersdatter 25 Aug 1841 in Fredensborg, Lynge Kronborg, Frederiksborg, Denmark.

Marriage #6 here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=21618437#380489,73956389

Their first child, Andrea Petronelle Andersen, is born 1 Jul 1841 in Fredensborg Slotssogn but I do not understand why she is not recorded as illegitimate when her parents were not yet married.

Birth #5 here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=21618437#380486,73956304

I find him on the Census as follows:

Year:   FT-1834   Source reference:   98   
Cadastre/Address:   Steengaden 415   
Household No:   1   
Name:   Niels Daniel Andersen      Gender:   M   
Age:   18      Civil status:   Ugift   
Occupation:   Lærling   
Parish:   Helsingør Købstad   District:   Lynge-Kronborg
Shire:   Frederiksborg   Place name:   Helsingøers Kjøbstad
Source entry No:   C7789   Record No.:   2248

Niels Daniel Andersen     18     Ugift          Lærling 

Year:   FT-1850   Source reference:   Side 246   
Cadastre/Address:   1Hus   
Household No:   518      Number af families/house:   7   
Parish:   Helsingør Købstad   District:   Lynge-Kronborg
Shire:   Frederiksborg   Place name:   Stjernegade
Source entry No:   C6046   Record No.:   6189

Niels Daniel Andersen     35     Gift          Sadelmagersvend     Fredensborg 
Ellen Petersen     32     Gift          Hans hustru     Lyngby, Kbh. 
Andrea Andersen     9     Ugift          Deres barn     Helsingør 
Thorvald Alfred Andersen     7     Ugift          Deres barn     Helsingør 
Cecilie Andersen     5     Ugift          Deres barn     Helsingør 
Ane Andersen     1     Ugift          Deres barn     Helsingør 

Year:   FT-1855   Source reference:   328   
Cadastre/Address:   Bjergegaden 310 Stuen   
Household No:   761 F   
Parish:   Helsingør Købstad   District:   Lynge-Kronborg
Shire:   Frederiksborg
Source entry No:   B7603   Record No.:   4257

Niels Daniel Andersen     40     Gift     Sadelmager frimester huusfader          Fredensborg 
Ellen Petersen     37     Gift     Hans kone          Fredensborg 
Andrea Peternille [ Andersen ]     14     Ugift     Deres datter          Fredensborg 
Cecilie Marie [ Andersen ]     10     Ugift     Deres datter          Helsingør 
Anna Emilie Mathilde [ Andersen ]     6     Ugift     Deres datter          Helsingør 
Elise Alfrede Emilie Marie     1     Ugift     Deres datter          Helsingør 
Thorvald Alfred [ Andersen ]     12     Ugift     Deres søn          Helsingør 
Christen Elias [ Andersen ]     4     Ugift     Deres søn          Helsingør 

Year:   FT-1860   Source reference:   Optællingsliste side 256   
Cadastre/Address:   310   
Household No:   289 - F1   
Parish:   Helsingør Købstad   District:   Lynge-Kronborg
Shire:   Frederiksborg   Place name:   Helsingør Købstad, ikke angivet 310
Source entry No:   D5383   Record No.:   3823

Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Niels Daniel Andersen     45     Gift     Sadelmagermester          Fredensborg 
Ellen. f. Petersen     42     Gift     Hans Kone          Lille Lyngby, Frederiksborg Amt 
Thorvald Alfred Andersen     17     Ugift     Deres Søn. Bogtrykkerlærling          Helsingør 
Cecilie Marie Andersen     15     Ugift     Deres Datter          Helsingør 
Anna Emilie Mathilde Andersen     11     Ugift     Deres Datter          Helsingør 
Christian Elias Andersen     9     Ugift     Deres Søn          Helsingør 
Elisa Alfreda Emilie Marie Andersen     6     Ugift     Deres Datter          Helsingør 
Agnes Lovise Andersen     5     Ugift     Deres Datter          Helsingør 
Nettie Ellen Andersen     3     Ugift     Deres Datter          Helsingør 

Year:   FT-1880   Source reference:   198   
Cadastre/Address:   1. Sal Matr. 87   
Household No:   1   
Parish:   Helsingør Købstad   District:   Lynge-Kronborg
Shire:   Frederiksborg   Place name:   Kirkestræde
Comments:   Ejerens Navn: Skomagermester N. P. Frederiksen   
Source entry No:   C4988   Record No.:   2312

Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Niels Daniel Andersen     64     Gift     Sadelmager, Husfader          Fredensborg 
Ellen Andersen F. Pedersen     61     Gift     Husmoder          Ølsted L. Lyngby Sogn 
Agnes Louise Andersen     24     Ugift     Deres Barn          Helsingør 
Neltje? Ellen Andersen     22     Ugift     Deres Barn          Helsingør 
Julie Stephani Helene Andersen     19     Ugift     Deres Barn          Helsingør 
Carl Valdemar Andersen     16     Ugift     Deres Barn, Skomagerlærling          Helsingør 
William Ancker Andersen     under et aar     Ugift     Agnes Andersens Søn          København 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

ETA: I think I find his confirmation here in 1830 #3 and his father is Anders Andersen who is a widow: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=21618437#420601,77163475

Ole Westermann

First link:
Niels Danielsen born Nov.15,1816
Parents: stonemason Anders Andersen and Sidse Nielsdatter

Your second link is the same, but from the other book in the parish.
So his full name is Niels Danielsen Andersen, but he prob. later called himself Niels Daniel Andersen.

Their daughter Andrea Petronelle was baptized the same day they got married!!
So you have the right persons.

mvh Ole