Who is the father of Hjære Hansen

Startet af Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland, 15 Apr 2020 - 06:48

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Hello,

My Hjære Hansen was born around 1770-1775 and I initially had him as the son of Hans Hjæresen and Marie Hansdatter but now that I have found his death record I think he might be the son of Hans Hansen (dies before 1801) and Mette Andersdatter.

Hjære Hansen dies at the age of 81 1/4 on 14 Sep 1850 in Nyløkkegård, Ejlskov, Hårslev, Skovby, Odense, Denmark giving him a birth around Jun or Jul 1769-1770.

Death Hjære Hansen 14 Sep 1850 here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17137779#179655,30467933

Hjære Hansen marries Maren Cathrine Frederiksdatter 1 Aug 1801 in Hårslev, Skovby, Odense, Denmark.  The marriage indicates that he is from Nyløkkegård and she is from Ågård Mølle.

Marriage here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=179649#179649,30466352

There is a fæste transfer from Niels Nielsen (possibly the same Niels Nielsen on the 1801 Census married to Mette Andersdatter) to Hjære Hansen 12 Nov 1801 in Nyløkkegård, Ejlskov, Hårslev, Skovby, Odense, Denmark here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=20803208#333962,67264719

This record seems to indicate that he is from Ejlskov?

The probate for Maren Cathrine Frederiksdatter 26 Apr 1846 in Nyløkkegård, Ejlskov, Hårslev, Skovby, Odense, Denmark is here: http://faesterogskifter.dk/InfoSpage.aspx?id=47406

I could not find a probate for Hjære Hansen.

I find the family in the 1787, 1801, 1834, 1840, 1845 and 1850 Census as follows:

Year:   FT-1787   Source reference:   Mikrofiche 437   
Household No:   F 5   
Name:   Hans Hieresen   
Age:   35      Civil status:   g   
Position in household:   Huusbond      Occupation:   Bonde og Gaardmand   
No of marriage:   1   
Parish:   Haarslev   District:   Skovby
Shire:   Odense   Place name:   Gambye med tilhørende Stæder
Source entry No:   A3175   Record No.:   439

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Hans Hieresen     35     g     Huusbond     Bonde og Gaardmand      
Marie Hansdatter     35     g     Hans kone     -      
Jere Hansen     11     -     Deres barn     -       giving a birth around 1775
Hans Hansen     7     -     Deres barn     -      
Karen Hansdatter     5     -     Deres barn     - 

I could not find 1769 Hjære Hansen on the 1787 Census in Hårslev, Skovby, Odense, Denmark.

Year:   FT-1801   Source reference:   167   
Cadastre/Address:   F 20   
Household No:   97   
Name:   Hiere Hansen      Gender:   M   
Age:   25      Civil status:   Ugift   
Position in household:   Deres barn      Occupation:   -   
Parish:   Haarslev   District:   Skovby
Shire:   Odense   Place name:   Gambye
Comments:   -   
Source entry No:   A3467   Record No.:   547

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Hans Hieresen     49     Gift     Huusbonde     Bonde og Gaardmand      
Marie Hansdatter     50     Gift     Hans kone     -      
Hiere Hansen     25     Ugift     Deres barn     -       giving a birth year of 1776
Rasmus Hansen     13     Ugift     Deres barn     -      
Ane Kirstine Hansdatter     10     Ugift     Deres barn     -      
Ane Hansdatter     8     Ugift     Deres barn     -      
Peder Hansen     7     Ugift     Deres barn     -       mentioned in the probate of Hans Hjæresen
Kirsten Hansdatter     5     Ugift     Deres barn     - 

Year:   FT-1801   Source reference:   181   
Cadastre/Address:   F 31, Lykkegaard   
Household No:   213   
Name:   Hiere Hansen      Gender:   M   
Age:   32      Civil status:   Ugift   
Position in household:   ?? stedsøn      Occupation:   -   
Parish:   Haarslev   District:   Skovby
Shire:   Odense   Place name:   Stæder paa Eilskou Grund
Comments:   -   
Source entry No:   A3467   Record No.:   1178

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Niels Nielsen     63     Gift     Huusbonde     Bonde og Gaardmand      
Mette Andersdatter     75     Gift     Hans kone     -      
Hiere Hansen     32     Ugift     ?? stedsøn     -        giving a birth year of about 1769
Kirstine Larsdatter     15     Ugift     Konens steddatterdatter     -      

Year:   FT-1834   Source reference:   177   
Cadastre/Address:   Nylykkegaard   
Household No:   72   
Name:   Hjere Hansen      Gender:   M   
Age:   64      Civil status:   Gift   
Occupation:   Gaardmand   
Parish:   Haarslev   District:   Skovby
Shire:   Odense   Place name:   Ejlskov
Source entry No:   B6162   Record No.:   427

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Hjere Hansen     64     Gift          Gaardmand        giving a birth year of around 1770
Maren Catrine Frederiksdatter     58     Gift          Kone      
Frederik Hjeresen     30     Ugift          Søn      
Hans Hjeresen     24     Ugift          Søn      
Niels Hjeresen     19     Ugift          Søn      
Ane Marie Hjeresdatter     18     Ugift          Datter      
Ane Catrine Hjeresdatter     14     Ugift          Datter 

Year:   FT-1840   Source reference:   171   
Cadastre/Address:   Nylykkegaard   
Household No:   127      Number af families/house:   1   
Name:   Hjære Hansen      Gender:   M   
Age:   72      Civil status:   Gift   
Occupation:   Gaardbruger   
Parish:   Haarslev   District:   Skovby
Shire:   Odense   Place name:   Eilskov Bye
Source entry No:   b7227   Record No.:   735

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Hjære Hansen     72     Gift          Gaardbruger     giving a birth year of about 1768
Maren Catrine Frederiksdatter     62     Gift          hans Kone      
Hans Hjæresen     29     Ugift          Deres Børn      
Niels Hjæresen     25     Ugift          Deres Børn      
Ane Catrine Hjæresdatter     20     Ugift          Deres Børn      
Christen Hansen     25     Ugift          Tjenestkarl     

Year:   FT-1845   Source reference:   201   
Cadastre/Address:   En gaard   
Household No:   90      Number af families/house:   1   
Name:   Hjære Hansen   
Age:   75      Civil status:   Gift   
Birth place:   Her i sognet [Haarslev]   
Occupation:   Gaardfæster   
Parish:   Haarslev   District:   Skovby
Shire:   Odense   Place name:   Eilskov
Source entry No:   B5968   Record No.:   522

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Hjære Hansen     75     Gift          Gaardfæster     Her i sognet [Haarslev]  giving a birth year around 1770
Maren Cathr. Frederiksdatter     66     Gift          Hans kone     Her i sognet [Haarslev] 
Hans Hjæresen     36     Ugift          Deres børn     do [Haarslev] 
Niels Hjæresen     32     Ugift          Deres børn     do [Haarslev] 
Ane Cathrine Hjæresdatter     28     Ugift          Deres børn     do [Haarslev] 
Frederik Almind     7     Ugift          Pleiebarn     Ore sogn, Odense Amt 

Year:   FT-1850   Source reference:   side 151   
Cadastre/Address:   Nyløkkegaard   
Household No:   78      Number af families/house:   1   
Name:   Hjære Hansen      Gender:   M   
Age:   80      Civil status:   Enkemand   
Birth place:   Her i sognet [Haarslev]   
Occupation:   hans Fader, Underholdes af sønnen   
Parish:   Haarslev   District:   Skovby
Shire:   Odense   Place name:   Farsbølle
Source entry No:   C3552   Record No.:   459

All members of the household
Name:    Age:    Married?:    Pos. in household:    Occupation:    BirTD place:
Hans Hjæresen     39     Gift          Gaardfæster og huusfader     Her i sognet [Haarslev] 
Johanne Marie SørensDatter     34     Gift          hans kone     Do [Her i sognet [Haarslev]] 
Juliane Margrethe Hansen     1     Ugift          Deres barn     Do [Her i sognet [Haarslev]] 
Ane Katrine Hjæresdatter     30     Ugift          hans søster,     Do [Her i sognet [Haarslev]] 
Niels Hjæresen     36     Ugift          hans broder er Træskomager     Do [Her i sognet [Haarslev]] 
Andreas Frederik Olesen     12     Ugift          en Søstersøn     Ore sogn, Odense amt 
Hjære Hansen     80     Enkemand          hans Fader, Underholdes af sønnen     Her i sognet [Haarslev]  giving a birth year around 1770

The daughter who I trace through is Mette Kirstine Hjæresdatter born 9 Dec 1802 in Nyløkkegård, Ejlskov, Hårslev, Skovby, Odense, Denmark.  By 1834 she is married and living with her husband, Jesper Andersen, and their children in Ejlskov, Hårslev, Skovby, Odense, Denmark.

Jesper Andersen 1834 Census here: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid2607877

Mette Kirstine Hjæresdatter birth is here on the right: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=179649#179649,30466358

The probate of Hans Hjæresen 5 Jan 1827 in Gamby, Hårslev, Skovby, Odense, Denmark is here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17070926#140506,34502391

The record is not very long but I do not see Hjære Hansen mentioned, only his brother Peder Hansen (born 12 Feb 1794 in Gamby, Hårslev, Skovby, Odense, Denmark).

Hjære Hansen birth 30 Jul 1769 in Ejlskov, Hårslev, Skovby, Odense, Denmark here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17137775#179648,30466231

Hjære Hansen birth 10 Sep 1775 in Gamby, Hårslev, Skovby, Odense, Denmark here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17137775#179648,30466256

Because the 1787 and 1801 Census both seem to confirm my information, that the father of Hjære Hansen is Hans Hjæresen and Marie Hansdatter, I am wondering if it is possible that the parish recorder wrote down the wrong father in both records?  This does not seem plausible.  If it were just one record then I could believe there was a mistake but not two records several years apart.  I cannot think that 1769 Hjære is my Hjære because I do not have a brother Peder for him.

I have all the birth, marriage, probate, census and death records for all of the children of Hjære Hansen and Maren Cathrine Frederiksdatter.  I have not yet searched military records.

Any help sorting this out is greatly appreciated.

Britta Hansen

#1
Hi Rebecca,

Hans Hansen's son Jere is listed in the Military Levying Rolls 20 years old – place of birth Eilschou
Rugård 1791_11_223 (Hårslev Parish – left hand side, last record.
1792_11_223/311 – first entry top left
1794_11_311/253
Opholdssted: Stokkemarke Kro på Laaland[Lolland, Maribo County]
Amts Pas ['County Pasport']
Cautionisten er Gårdmand Niels Nielsen Eilschou (Hjere was allowed to leave the parish/county and work somewhere else. Niels Nielsen was the guarantor.
1797_11_253/202 Hiere  – right page
1800_11_202/171 – left page
The last roll listing Hiere is 1802_11_171/134 - right page
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Britta Hansen

#2
Niels Nielsen took over the farm (fæste transfer) 1. Sep 1780 when Hans Hansen died in 1780

Probate records
Navn                    Mette Kirstine Andersdatter
Sted                           Nylykkegaard
Sogn/Herred/Amt   Haarslev, Skovby, Odense
Skiftedato                   20. apr 1812
Civilstand                   Gift
  first husband Hans Hansen
  second "       Niels Nielsen
The Protocol - right page -
Hiere Hansen informed the Court that his mother Mette Kirstine Andersdatter .........
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Britta Hansen

#3
Hans Hansen probate records 1780
Navn                      Hans Hansen
Sted                           Ejlskov
Sogn/Herred/Amt   Haarslev, Skovby, Odense
Skiftedato             08. jul 1780
Civilstand                   Gift
Stilling                   Gaardmand
Seneste ægtefælle   Mette Kirstine Andersdatter
Forrige ægtefælle   Rebekka Hansdatter
The Protocol ... child no 8  Hiere Hansen 10 years old- right hand side
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Inger Toudal

#4
The father of Hiere Hansen b. 1769 is Hans Hansen, Ejlskov.

The father of Hiere Hansen b. 1775 is Hans Hieresen, Gamby.

Hiere Hansen b. 1769 could be here:
1787 Census, Asperup parish: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid812987

Mother Mette and stepfather Niels:
1787 Census, Haarslev parish: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid86380

Hiere is definitely here:
1801 Census, Haarslev parish: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid928085

Index to marriages and deaths in Haarslev parish, Odense county:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17129060#174265,29314595 - right page

- look for Hans Hansen, Ejlskov: 1st wife died 1753, and he remarried the same year.

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Inger Toudal
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Inger Toudal

Inger Toudal

Marriage 1 Aug. 1801: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=179649#179649,30466352 - right page
- Bondsmen were the groom's father(?) Niels Nielsen and [blank space]

Baptism 9 Dec. 1802: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=179649#179649,30466358 - right page
- the last witness mentioned is Niels Nielsen's wife in nye Lykkegaard.

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Inger
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Inger Toudal

Citat fra: Britta Hansen Dato 17 Apr 2020 - 21:05
Hi Rebecca,

Hans Hansen's son Jere is listed in the Military Levying Rolls 20 years old – place of birth Eilschou



Thank you for finding those Britta.  I wonder if #216 age 38 Hans Hansen is the son from the 1st marriage of Hans Hansen to Rebecca Hansdatter.  The only thing that makes me pause is the age because it looks like Hans Hansen junior is 38 in 1780 when his father dies so maybe it is not him.

Left side of page: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17575,836810

Citat fra: Britta Hansen Dato 17 Apr 2020 - 21:46
Hans Hansen probate records 1780
Navn                      Hans Hansen


Does it say why Jesper Hjæresen is included in the probate of Hans Hansen? 

I see him on the top left here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17070926#140502,34501306

It turns out that I am related to both Hjære Hansen 1769 and 1775.

Citat fra: Inger Toudal Dato 17 Apr 2020 - 23:26

Hiere Hansen b. 1769 could be here:
1787 Census, Asperup parish: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid812987


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Inger Toudal

Thank you Inger.  I think this must be him.  He is living with Jesper Hjæresen (born 1752 in Gamby, Hårslev, Skovby, Odense, Denmark - dies 1825 in Asperup, Vends, Odense, Denmark) who is mentioned in the probate record of Hans Hansen in 1780 and I am still trying to figure out if they are related.  I am thinking they must be simply because the patronymic is not common.

Jesper Hjæresen is the son of Hjære Hansen (1701-1767) and Maren Rasmusdatter (1714-1776).  This Hjære Hansen is the son of Hans Hjæresen (1665-1742) and Maren Christensdatter (1673-1752).  They have a son Hans Hansen but he is born 21 Jun 1714 in Bro, Brenderup, Vends, Odense, Denmark, a twin to Anders Hansen, and dies there in Nov 1740.

Britta Hansen

Citat
Does it say why Jesper Hjæresen is included in the probate of Hans Hansen?
He is a creditor of the estate: Claims to creditors are listed in the processing of the probate.
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