Jens Nielsen born 1838 Tornby Hjørring, wife Inger Nielsdatter

Startet af Cyndilou, 09 Jun 2018 - 06:53

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Cyndilou

Looking for any help in finding the following for Jens Nielsen born in Tornby Hjørring in 1838
Jens Nielsen SORT

Info hoping to find:
1.  Any other children
2.  Death of Jens Nielsen


Here is what I have so far...

BIRTH  June 8 1738 TORNBY Hjørring County, Vennebjerg District, Tornby Parish 1683 - 1738
Jens Nielsen born to Karen Jensdatter and Niels Michelsen in Tornby, Hjorring.
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn435/churchbook/source136960/opslag14902030
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn435/churchbook/source25031/opslag5056632
#7 Right side
Dom: 1 post Trin: Var Niels Michelsøns og Karen Jens-
daatters Søn til Daaben kaldet Jens. Maren Peders-
daatter bar Barnet. Faddre Frands Jørgensøn, Christi-
an Jørgensøn, Hans Christensøn, Jens Møller.


1755 Confirmation of Jens Nielsen Sort record #5 under 1755
Confirmation April 6, 1755 was baptized Dom 1 p. Trin 1738, the 1st Sunday after Trinity 1738 which was June 8, 1738.
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=170607&side=99

1758  april 2 Confirmation of wife -  Inger Nielsdatter
there is an Ingierd Nielsdatter, baptized Palm Sunday 1743, i.e. April 7, 1743.

http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=170607&side=100&height=736

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1760 death record for Mother - Karen Jensdatter:
3rd from the bottom:
November 16, 1760
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=170601#170601,28645107
Dom 24 p. Trinit: blev Niels Michelsens Hustrue af Nørbye begravet nfnl [nafnlig, by the name] Karen Jens Daatter i hendes Alders 61 Aar og 2 Uger (in her age 61 years and 2 weeks). so she must have been born about Nov 2, 1699  
Nørbye is short for Nørre Tornby.

The family members are listed in the PROBATE records of Mother - Karen Jensdatter:
08.01.1761 Karen Jensdatter i Tornby, død 08.11.1760 Fol. 142b
 Niels Michelsen
 Arvinger: Enkemanden [Heirs: the widower
 Børn: Jens Nielsen, 22 år [children]
       Anne Nielsdatter, 21 år
       Maren Nielsdatter, 20 år
       Michel Nielsen, 13 år
       Johanne Nielsdatter, 13 år
       Peder Nielsen, 9 år

LINK TO THE ACTUAL PROBATE:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=193002#193002,32357428

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1765 Betrothal of Jens Nielsen and Inger Nielsdatter
1765 Tornby parish. Tuesdays d. Feb. 19th. was Jens Nielsen and Inger Nielsdatter betrothed.
The groomers were Peder Jespersen and Christen Krag.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645136
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn435/churchbook/source25031/opslag5055380  

1765 Marriage of Jens Nielsen and Inger Nielsdatter Sept 27, 1765 Tornby  
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645153


CHILDREN (birth records are missing for this parish during these years)
1789 Military rolls (I have a number of the rolls of each of the brothers if they are needed.  Listed here is just the one that shows all 4 brothers together)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18201,1032148

show Jens Nielsen is the father of four sons all born in Tornby all living in different villages. 
Niels is 25, living in Grynderup or Brønderup (confirmation shows born in 1766)
Jorgen is 24, living in Schibsbye, Sankt Olai. (Confirmation can't be found but should be around 1767)
Michel is 22, living in Sønderlev (Confirmation found Aug 21, 1768)
Peder is 20. living in Sønderlev (baptism record found July 1 1770)

The military rolls show they are brothers and who the father is. 
the parish records are missing for the years Niels, Jorgen and Michel were born but parish records were found for Peder showing who mother is. 
Peder shows up at the baptisms of several of Jorgen's children.

1801 Tornby Census Jens Nielsen and Inger Nielsdatter (so both still alive and still in Tornby by 1801)
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1557290
379   Jens Nielsen      63   1738   Married   Manden Jordløs Huusmand, og nyder begge Almisse
380   Inger Nielsdatter   60   1741   Married   Hans kone saa nyder begge Almisse
So we KNOW between 1765 and 1801 Inger and Jens lived in Tornby

1817 Inger Nielsdatter's death Sept 12 1817 in Rubjerg
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166797&side=150&height=775 
(dead) Sept. 12th. 1817 (burried) Sept. 21th. 1817. Inger Nielsdatter of Tornby. Residing with her son Peder Jensen Sort in Rubjerg. 80 years old. (In the register) Fol (page) 225. Number 25.


FOR EVERYTHING I HAVE FOUND ON EACH OF THE 4 SONS see the attached documents in this thread:
https://www.slaegtogdata.dk/forum/index.php/topic,136996.msg730708.html#msg730708
answer #95 Jorgen Jensen
answer #96 Niels Jensen
answer #97 Michel Jensen
answer #98 Peder Jensen

all the Sons have been found with the "Sort" name attached to them in different records.
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1838 DEATH of a JENS NIELSEN SORT – But not mine:
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/churchbook/sogn358/churchlisting133496/opslag14381963
Jens Nielsen Sort Oct 21 1838 age 91 would make birth
this Couldn't be mine or he'd be 100 by this year

This Jens was in Hjorring in 1801 https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1534466
And in 1834 https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid3160490
And dies in Hjorring in 1838.  I'll bet there is some kind of relationship since he has the "SORT" name and this is where all 4 of Jens Son's were before 2 of them moved to Rubjerg.  




Poul F. Andersen

To me it seems, that you have not searched the censuses on DDD yet?

Try to search the name "Sort" choosing Amt = Aalborg and Amt = Hjörring in "Alle aar" = all years

You will get 75 hits in Hjörring and 13 hits in Aalborg.

Link to DDD = Danish Demographic Database:

http://ddd.dda.dk/soeg_person_enkel.asp
Venligst
Poul F. Andersen

Niels Just Rasmussen

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Citat fra: Cyndilou [57119] Dato 09 Jun 2018 - 06:53
Looking for any help in finding the following for Jens Nielsen born in Tornby Hjørring in 1838
Jens Nielsen SORT

Info hoping to find:
1.  Any other children
2.  Death of Jens Nielsen



I suppose you look for the death of Jens Nielsen (Sort) born in 1738!

A big problem is that Tornby lacks church books between 1798-1813.
His wife Inger Nielsdatter probably relocates to her son (Peder Jensen Sort) in Rubjerg, after her husband has died?

Probates:
Tornby was under Asdal Gods (Estate) until ~ 1799 [The book ends around that time].
See: http://www.ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?side=1&bsid=192325&kb=Godsskifter+amt%2C+Hj%C3%B8rring%2C+Asdal+Gods%2C+Skifteprotokol%2C++-

Then we have probates from Horns-Vennebjerg Herred 1794-1815.
See: http://www.ao.salldata.dk/index.php?type=skifter&n1=Retsbetjente&n2=Hj%C3%B8rring&n3=Horns-Vennebjerg+herreder

Sadly there is seemingly no register.

But if Jens Nielsen & Inger Nielsdatter were "aftægtsfolk" at their sons place, there might be no probate from either of them?