Jeg taler ikke dansk. Oversættelse nødvendig. Militær Levy Rolls i København1852

[Karen Baggs]

Jeg forstår ikke, hvor man kan finde ham i det næste kast, eller hvis han forlod landet. Jeg har fulgt ham i Hjørring Amt, men København er anderledes. Kan nogen hjælpe?
Tak
Karen Baggs


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[Verner Bentsen]

You can find him here:

Where was he born ? Auskjær ?

Hans Christian Christensen
Staden København 1852 B nr 2952
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=2961892#187155,31765129
til København 11 B 147

København, lægd 11-B147 Brøndbyøster sogn
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16481031#17224,726267
til 28 C 61

København, lægd 28-C-61Taarnby
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16481031#17228,727403
til næste hovedrulle

København Hovedrulle 1856 F Taarnby Før lægd 28 nu lægd 26
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16481031#17243,731649
Til København G 2724

Staden København Tilgandsrulle G
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16481031#18503,1114076
til Aalborg 17- H 119

Aalborg 1858 H tilgangsrulle, lægd 17 Sønderholm sogn
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16481031#18531,1120864
Straffet med 1 års forbedringshusarbejde for tyveri ifølge Hornum herred— dom af 15/11 59

I havn't found him after 1858.

mvh Verner

[Ole Westermann]

A summary of Verner's findings:

Hans Christian Christensen (maybe Hansen)
1852 he lives Vestergade 45 in the basement at restaurant keeper Hansen, and later he moves around in/near Copenhagen.
He becomes soldier 30.May 1856 in 2. (Linie) Battalion; is free of service acc. to a list from 2. levying district 12.dec.1857; then farm hand; and in the last roll 1858:  15.nov.1859 sentenced to 1 year imprisonment (in house of correction) for theft according to sentence from Hornum Herred.

Med venlig hilsen
Ole

[Verner Bentsen]

Thanks Ole.

Hans Christian Christensen was born on 4. jul. 1833, Jerslev parish, Hjørring county.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=165288#165288,27765318

Verner

[Inger Toudal]

One of many prisoners in the 1860 census:

Viborg, Nørlyng, Viborg Købstad, Viborg Købstad, 3. Kvarter, Ridderstræde 120. 121. 122. 124. Mandsfanger i Viborg Straffeanstalt, 113 - F1, FT-1860, D6788
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Anders Christensen Huus    41    Ugift    Tugtshusfange       Stenild Sogn, Aalborg Amt
- - - - - - - - - -
Hans Christian Christensen    27    Ugift    Forbedringshusfange       Jerslev Sogn, Hjørring Amt
- - - - - - - - - -
Anders Rasmussen    36    Ugift    Forbedringshusfange       Storring Sogn, Aarhus Amt  



Maybe here in 1890 as a widower:

Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Ugilt, Ugilt, Linderum, , 1, FT-1890, C9261
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Hans Christensen    57    Enkemand    Husfader    Skomager    Jerslev Sogn Hjørring Amt  

Best regards,
Inger Toudal

[Karen Baggs]

Thank you for all of the help with Han Christian Christensen in the Military Levy Rolls.  I was overwhelmed and never imagined you would find so much.   You were very kind and I am very grateful!!!  I was confused with the Copenhagen Levy Rolls and appreciate the links so I can retrace your steps.  Also, Hans Christiansen is a possibility and it will be checked out.
Thank You again  Karen

[Inger Toudal]

Here's a Hans Christian Christensen in the 1880 and 1870 censuses for Ugilt parish:

Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Ugilt, Ugilt, Et Huus, 2, FT-1880, C2710
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Hans Christian Christensen    47    Gift    Husfader, inderste, skomager       Heri sognet
Else Marie Andersdatter    60    Gift    Husmoder, hans hustru       Heri sognet
Helene Marie Andersdatter    13    Ugift    Deres datter       Basholt Taars sogn Hjørring amt
Hans Christian Willumsen    26    Ugift    Skomager Svend       Hjørring

Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Ugilt, Linderum, Et huus, 12.1, FT-1870, D7025
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Hans Christian Christensen    37    Gift    Ægtemand    Jordbruger og skomager    Linderum, Hj. Amt
Else Marie Andersen    50    Gift    Moder       Wester Ugilt, Hj. Amt
Helene Petersen    3    Ugift    Datter       Basholdt, Hj. Amt

He seems to be the same person as Hans Christensen in the 1890 census, but the birth place is not the same??

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

There is a Hans Christian Christensen born in Ugilt parish, about the same age as HCC born in Jerslev:

Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Ugilt, Linderum bye, En gaard, 10, FT-1845, B5305
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Christen Michel Jensen    38    Gift       Gaardmand brandfoged    Ugilt sogn Hjørring amt
Mariane Sørensdatter    33    Gift       Hans kone    Ugilt sogn Hjørring amt
Hans Christian Christensen    13    Ugift       Deres børn    Ugilt sogn Hjørring amt
Søren Christian Christensen    12    Ugift       Deres børn    Taars sogn Hjørring amt
Michel Peter Christensen    10    Ugift       Deres børn    Taars sogn Hjørring amt
Johanne Magdalene Christensen    7    Ugift       Deres børn    Taars sogn Hjørring amt
Søren Jørgensen    70    Enke(mand)       Huusmoders fader aftægtsmand paa gaarden    Heri sognet
Anders Christian Christensen    19    Ugift       Tjenestekarl    Heri sognet

Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Ugilt, Mølgaardsmark, Et huus, 35, FT-1855, D7019
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Ole Christian Sørensen    36    Enkemand    Huusmand. skomager. huusfader       Her i Sognet
Ane Thomine Elisabeth Thomsdatter    20    Ugift    Huusholderske       Her i Sognet
Magrethe Olesen    15    Ugift    Hans børn       Her i Sognet
Søren Olesen    13    Ugift    Hans børn       Her i Sognet
Christian Carl Olesen    10    Ugift    Hans børn       Her i Sognet
Christian Anton Olesen    9    Ugift    Hans børn       Her i Sognet
Julius Olesen    4    Ugift    Hans børn       Her i Sognet
Hans Christian Christensen    23    Ugift    Skomagerlærling       Her i Sognet  

- so maybe birth place Jerslev in the 1890 census is a mistake?

Best regards,
Inger

[Verner Bentsen]

In all Levy Rolls father's name is Christen Hansen and also in the birth record.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=165288#165288,27765318

A Hans Christian Christensen was born on 24 june 1832 in Ugilt , mother Mariane Sørensdatter
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=171116#171116,28722959

I don't think that Hans born in Ugilt is the one Karen is looking for.

mvh Verner

[Inger Toudal]

No, HCC born in Ugilt is not the HCC Karen is looking for. My point was, that Skomager Hans Christensen in the 1890
census for Ugilt parish probably is not HCC born in Jerslev parish, although his birth place is recorded as Jerslev:

1890 census, Ugilt parish: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=59112#59112,12166883 - top

So we're back to the 1860 census with the HCC Karen is looking for.

He's here in the index for prisoners at Viborg Tugthus:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=257009#257009,47950211

- and in the protocol (Tjenestekarl 'farmhand', released 24 Nov. 1860):
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=19609634#257007,47949971

Ålborg 1859 J Tilgangsrulle, lægd 17:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16481031#18533,1121213 - No 122

Best regards,
Inger

[Verner Bentsen]

Is this Karens HCC ?

hjoerring, Dronninglund, Sæby Købstad, Algade 53, Thing og arresthuus, Sidehuuset, 71, FT-1870, D7545
Navn:  Alder:  Civilstand:  Stilling i husstanden:  Erhverv:  Fødested:
Hans Christian Christensen 35 Ugift Arrestant Jerslev Sogn, Hjørring Amt
Anne Katrine Ydsted 40 Gift Arrestant Dronniglund Sogn, Hjørring Amt
Hans Ditlev Thomsen 22 Ugift Arrestant Taars Sogn, Hjørring Amt
Christen Larsen Kjerk 47 Gift Arrestant Dronniglund Sogn, Hjørring Amt
Peter Christian Christensen 53 Ugift Arrestant Dronniglund Sogn, Hjørring Amt
Christen Sørensen ?? 49 Enkemand Arrestant Dronniglund Sogn, Hjørring Amt
Peter Christian Jacobsen 22 Enkemand Arrestant Moesbjerg Sogn, Hjørring Amt

mvh Verner

[Verner Bentsen]

skanderborg, Nim, Horsens Købstad, Horsens Købstad, Straffeanstalten, Fængelselsbygning, Matrikkelnummer 130, 52, FT-1880, C9993
Navn:  Alder:  Civilstand:  Stilling i husstanden:  Erhverv:  Fødested:
Hans Christian Christensen / ?? 46 Gift Arbejdsmand ??bo Sogn, Hjørrig amt

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=56967#56967,12058889 # 52

Born in Jerslev.  
Corrected: He is married.

mvh Verner

[Inger Toudal]

In the name index for Statsfængslet i Horsens:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=213088#213088,40395115

In the protocol (Stambog) for Statsfængslet i Horsens (married 1875, 3 children, released 8 July 1885):
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=213111#213111,40399676 - left page
- had been imprisoned in Viborg for 4 years 1870 - 1874.

Best regards,
Inger

[Inger Toudal]

In the index for prisoners at Viborg Tugthus:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=257013#257013,47950953

In the protocol (Tjenestekarl, 4 years, released 27 July 1866):
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=257010#257010,47950267

- and in a later protocol (Arbeidsmand  'worker', 4 years, released 20 May 1874):
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=257011#257011,47950663

Best regards,
Inger