John Christian Winther

[James Spiegel]

I'm looking for my grandfather. John Christian Winther, born 19 June 1879 in Copenhagen, Kobenhavn, Denmark. He arrived in the United States in 1899. I have no information on him before he came over to the US

[Bjarne Due Pedersen]

Census 1901
København, Smørum, Herstedvester, Vridsløselille, 4b, 5b, 10e, 27, 7b, 118, FT-1901, C6219 
www.ddd.dda.dk
From a long list:
Johan Christian Winther 18-6-1879  Ugift  (not married) Forbedringshusfange (Penitentiary Prisoner) Landvæsenselev (rural administration student)
Kjøbenhavn

Looking for more...

[Bjarne Due Pedersen]

He came from Nakskov, a town at Lolland, in 1900, to Copenhagen, maybe the prison ?

[Bjarne Due Pedersen]

Born 19-06-1879, Sct. Stefan, Sokkelund, København
Johan Kristian Winther. Mother, Julie Magdalene Winther, 30 years old, not married and there is no father.

[Homer Ficken]

Attached is the birth record that Bjarne found; what does the added information in the last columns say?

If Julie's age is wrong in the birth record, this is probably her, but Johan Kristian is not listed with her 1880 so maybe in care of another family:
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København, København (Staden), Ørstedvej , H.C., Frederiksberg, 18a, , 49 C, FT-1880
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Peder Kjær Sørensen 24  Gift  Barber Randers
Josephine Augusta Georgia Sørensen 28  Gift  Hans hustru Nykøbing Sjælland
Alfred Anton Sørensen 21  Ugift  Bogbindersvend Randers
Olaf Janus Kjær Sørensen ½  Ugift  Deres barn København
Ole Andersen 42  Gift  Finerskærer Tikøb, Frb. Amt
Anine Margrethe Andersen 47  Gift  Hans hustru København
Augusta Wilhelmine Holm, [f. Martensen] 50  Enke  Husejer Domsognet, Roskilde
Hendrik Alfred Holm 39  Ugift  Telegrafist Holtug Sogn, Præstø Amt
Minca Albertine Holm 20  Ugift  Hendes datter Holtug Sogn, Præstø Amt
Dagmar Holm 18  Ugift  Hendes datter Holtug Sogn, Præstø Amt
Axel Dousin Holm 14  Ugift  Hendes søn København
Karl Richard Barfod Sørensen 36  Gift  Løjtnant Åbenrå
Cecilie Frederikke Barfod, [f.Nellemann] 26  Gift  Hans hustru Fyn
Vota Marie Barfod 2  Ugift  Deres barn Hjørring By
Uffe Nikolaj Sørensen Barfod 1  Ugift  Deres barn Frederiksberg, Kbh.
Julie Magdalene Winther 36  Ugift  Tjenestepige Magleby, Langeland

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Svendborg, Langelands Sønder, Magleby, Nordenbro By, , en gaard, 57, FT-1860
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Hans Chr. Madsen 35  Gift gaardmand, huusfader  her i sognet [Magleby]
Ane Christine Christensen 31  Gift hans kone  Tullebølle
Hansine Annine Hansen 9  Ugift deres børn  her i sognet [Magleby]
Marie Martheline Hansen 7  Ugift deres børn  do [Magleby]
Christen Olsen Hansen 3  Ugift deres børn  do [Magleby]
Lars Peter Hansen 3  Ugift deres børn  do [Magleby]
Hans Larsen 43  Ugift tjenestekarl  Fodslette
Marthe Jørgensen 16  Ugift tjenestepige  Vemmeløv, Sorø
Julie Magdalene Winther 17  Ugift do [tjenestepige]  her i sognet [Magleby]

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[Homer Ficken]

Here is the birth also recorded at Magleby, Svendborg:

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[Homer Ficken]

Here is Julie's christening, born 22 May 1843, parents Johan Christian Winther and Sophie Fredricke Olsen
(Magleby 1839-1886, opslag 209 #10)

John Christian born 1879 must have been named for his grandfather.

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[Homer Ficken]

And this must be Johan Christian in 1880, perhaps taken in by an uncle & aunt?:

Sorø, Alsted, Lynge, Topshøj By, Lynge sogn, , et hus, 1, FT-1880
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Claus Jensen 54  Gift husfader  Alsted sogn
Ane Marie Hansen 53  Gift husmoder  Lynge sogn
Hans Christian Jensen 22  Ugift børn  do [Lynge sogn]
Carl Frederik Jensen 20  Ugift børn  do [Lynge sogn]
Bolette Kirstine Jensen 16  Ugift børn  do [Lynge sogn]
Karen Marie Jensen 14  Ugift børn  do [Lynge sogn]
Hans Christian Hansen 5  Ugift plejesøn  do [Lynge sogn]
Christian Frederik Laurits Winther 46  Gift husfader, kurvemager  Tullebølle, Svenborg Amt
Martine Christine Winther født Hansen 54  Gift hans hustru  Svenborg
Leon Valdemar Seier Haslund 8  Ugift deres pleiebørn  Slagelse
Johan Christian Winther 1  Ugift deres pleiebørn  Kjøbenhavn

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[Bjarne Due Pedersen]

Maybe Julies father:
Borchhardt Albrecth Winther skytte i Tranekier Slot           31 Jan 1811    pg 217
WIFE:    Karen Magdalene i Khvn   
CH(ild):      Johan Christian Winther 7WIFE.MODER: Gerdru Magrede Moller enke = afg Johan Moller
guard: J.C. Wagner gartner i Tranekier
wgd: Johan Henrich Mogensen kelinsmed
[Langeland Amtmand skiftpro; Book 1 1773-1827; FHL film 52796]


http://myweb.cableone.net/jopassey/LANGL-AX.HTM

[Bjarne Due Pedersen]

And Johan´s wife in USA http://home1.stofanet.dk/leismann/566.html

[Homer Ficken]

And my guess was correct:  Christian Fredrik Laurits Winther was Julie's brother, born 1832 (attached)

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[Bjarne Due Pedersen]

http://www.sa.dk/ao/SoegeSider/Folketaelling.aspx
Census 1901 Landsogn : København, Smørum, Herstedvester page 462.

Here is his birth 19-06-1879