Need help sorting out children

[Lynn Christiansen]

I have a husband and wife, Jens Jensen and Maren Skamelsdatter, married 26 May 1787 in Hjardemål, Hillerslev, Thisted. Their marriage record indicates he is from Øsløs which is in Vester Han, Thisted.

As I search the 1678-1808 Hjardemål, Hillerslev, Thisted register for children in I find the following children for Jens Jensen, the mother's name is not given except for the last one listed. Because her name is not the same as my Maren Skamelsdatter I am deleting that child. the others are of interest.

                                         Opslag              Name following Jens Jensen
Johanne Maria Jensdater      240 pg 115 # 5         Blausgad
Inger Kirstine Jensdatter      243 pg 116 #11        Blausgad
Else Jensdatter                   247 pg 118 # 7            Kaader (?)
Peder Jensen                      249 pg 119 # 5         (nothing)
Else Maria Jensdatter           252 pg 120 1795 # 2   Korser
Jens Christian Jensen          255 pg 122 # 3          Blausgad
Mariane Jensdatter              257 pg 123 # 9          Kørr
Anders Christian Jensen &
Dorthe Katrine Jensdatter    263 pg 126 # 5 & 6    Korser
Dorthe Maria Jensdatter      266 pg 128 #16          Korser
Peter Jensen                      268 pg 129 # 8           Roer (Mother's name given as  Maren Christendatter)

Based on this I believe there may be more than one Jens Jensen in Hjardemål.

My question is: Are any of these children, children of Jens Jensen and Maren Skamelsdatter?

If so, how can one tell?


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[Ralph Rasmussen]

On the one hand, Johanne and Jens have sponsors from Øsløs.  They can maybe be traced there to see how they are related to that Jens Jensen, or his wife.

On the other hand, do you have Jens dead by 1792?   This would look a lot like Maren in 1801, with her mother:

thisted, Hillerslev, Østerild, Østerby, , 88, FT-1801, B5732
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Christ. Andersen 51  Gift mand huus med jord  
Maren Schammelsdatter 53  Gift hans kone  
Karen Marie 14  Ugift mandens datter af 1 ægteskab  
Anne Marie 10  Ugift deres fælles barn  
Anne Pedersdatter 81  Enke konens moder

Allowing for a certain accuracy in the census, identifying this Maren with the one married in in 1787 would mean that only Else in opslag 247 should belong to the couple.

mvh
-Ralph

PS Looking at your other thread puts Maren's mother's name and Maren's age up in the air.  But how many Maren S's should there be? It is probably back to the births at Blausgård.

[Poul-Erik Langvad]

Hi Lynn

In 1801 there are 2 different Jens Jensen with children:

Thisted, Hillerslev, Hjardemaal, Klitten, , 18, FT 1801, A7270
Jens Jensen   41    gift   Husbond   Bonde og gaardbeboer.   
Maren Christensdatter   36    gift   Hans kone      
Søren Jensen   10    ugift   Deres barn      
Maren Jensdatter   8    ugift   Deres barn      
Christen Jensen   7    ugift   Deres barn      
Jens Jensen   5    ugift   Deres barn      
Mariane Jensdatter   3    ugift   Deres barn

Thisted, Hillerslev, Hjardemaal, Korsöe bÿe, , 12, FT 1801, A7270
Jens Jensen   35    gift   Mand   Jordløs husmand gaar i dagleje   
Ane Thomasdatter   34    gift   Hans kone      
Peter Jensen   8    ugift   Deres barn      
Maria Jensdatter   6    ugift   Deres barn

There is another Jens Jensen but he was in his first marriage with a wife aged 64 and no children mentioned.
In the churchbook there are more children baptized you have to include:
Opslag 247 #2 Jens Blausgrds Datt
Opslag 249 #2 Jens Roers Datt (as test. was Jens Blausg)

The first Jens Jensen fits with:

Thisted, Hillerslev, Hjardemaal, Klitten bÿe, , 4, FT-1787, A8985
Skamels Polsen   66    gift   Husbond   Bonde og gaardbeboer   
Maren Nielsdatter   55    gift   Hans kone      
Maren Skamelsdatter   24    gift   Deres datter      
Jens Jensen   29    gift   Hendes mand      
Johanne Jensdatter   1    ugift   Deres barn

but is it Maren Skammelsdatter from FT-1787 or from FT-1801 you are hunting I do not know.

M.v.h. Poul-Erik