Øster Tørslev, Randers

Startet af Thomas Jensen, 18 Mar 2011 - 10:04

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Thomas Jensen

Look up & translation please for the marriage of Anders Nielsen Dørgen & Ane? 22 Mar 1792. Øster Tørslev-Dalbyover, Randers. 1721 - 1813. Opslag unknown.
Regards,
Tommy Jensen. U.K.
Interests: Lovns Area, Aalborg. Gassum area, Randers. Højslev, Lundø, Vinkel areas, Vib.
Skane area, Sweden.
Bertelsens, Utah. U.S.A.

Ole Westermann

Hi Tommy

The marriage is at opslag 230 and it is on March 22,1793:

d 22 Martii blev vied (got married) Anders
Nielsen Dørgen og Anne Christens-
datter her af Byen (here from the town)

When their daughters Catrine (1794 at opslag 237) and Anna Catrine (1795 at opslag 244) were baptized, their mothers name is written Anna Madsdatter with the surname Christens(datter) added above.

Ole


Thomas Jensen

Many thanks Ole.

Thats that marriage out of the equasion then!
I am totally confused with the Dørgen name now.
My 3rd great grandfather Povel, was born abt 1790 to an Anders Nielsen (Hyrde) & Ane Michelsdatter, Østrup Bye,? Randers. DDD Randers, Støvring, Albæk, Østrup Bye, , Østrup Bye, 11, FT-1801.
As far as I can tell. The Dørgen name first appears in my family in 1816, when Poul fathers a daughter with Anne Sørensdatter. 1814 - 1835 Holbaek, Randers. Op 50.
Then 1839 when his mother Anne dies.  1814-1844 Gassum. Op. 135. Husband Anders Dørgen
Again 1940 when his daughter Inger Marie is born. 1814-1844 Gassum. Op. 60.
Confirmation of Inger Marie.  1845 - 1879 Gassum. Op. 124
Any advice that you are anyone else, could give would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Tommy Jensen. U.K.
Interests: Lovns Area, Aalborg. Gassum area, Randers. Højslev, Lundø, Vinkel areas, Vib.
Skane area, Sweden.
Bertelsens, Utah. U.S.A.

Ole Westermann

Hi Tommy

About  Anders Nielsen Dørgen /Dorgen

Census 1787 Randers, Støvring, Albæk, Albech Sogn, Albech Bye, 24, FT-1787, B8202
Anders Nielsen        43 Gift Mand Boendes i Hyrdehuuset og er Fæe og Faare Hyrde
Anne Rasmusdatter 46 Gift Hans Kone
Niels Andersen        10 - Deres Søn

This is probably the person named 'Anders Svenske' (svenske = swedish) (alias Dorgen/Dørgen) in the church book, and he is cattle and sheep sheperd (hyrde). It's the only person with the name Anders fitting with age in the parish at the census 1787. And his occupation (stilling) fits with his occupation at the census 1801 in Østrup.
The son Niels's baptism is seen at opslag 21 (Albæk 1770-1814) :
1776 Njels (Niels), Anders Dorgens Barn af Lindb(erg) i Kirke 14 p Trin ( Sept 8 )

At opslag 6 you see:
1771 Njels, Hyrden Dorgens Søn i Lindberg døbt Skjærtorsdag (March 28)
He probably later died before 1776.

His wife is buried Sept.4,1788, 42 years old (the age statements are often unreliable) (opslag 60).
He marries again June 12,1789 (betrothal Jan.6,1789) to Anne .....? (opslag 61 no 4c), and Anders is living in Østrup.
But Anne .....? is already buried Sept.30,1789 in Gimming (opslag 71, 1709-1813):
Hyrden Anders Nielsens H(ustru) af Tbye (Tjæreby). (Also seen at opsl.179,1720-91, her age was 66)

But to who (XX) and where does he get married before this ? :

Poul Andersen (Dørgen) is born in Gimming parish (1709-1813,opslag 38 bottom):
1791 Dom 2 p.Epiph. D 16 Janv bekræftedes Daaben (the baptism confirmed) over Anders Jørgen (this should probably be Dørgen; otherwise his surname should be Jørgensen) S. (son) Poul af Tbye (Tjæreby).
Gimming is the nabour parish west to Albæk parish.
So Anders has probably been sheperd here at this time.
The census 1845 and 1860 in Gassum says that Poul Andersen was born in Gimming (in 1850 it says Albæk)

Then I think that XX also died (1791-93). Because I think that it is this Anders Nielsen Dørgen who marries Anne Christensdatter (Madsdatter?)  in Øster Tørslev on March 22,1793 and gets the 2 daughters Catrine and Anne Catrine (1794 and 1795) there. After that he is not mentioned in Ø.Tørslev, so I think he moved from there. Maybe the 2 daugthers died in childhood.

Somewhere (??) his wife dies (or maybe her right surname is Michelsdatter !!? (and doesn't die)), and then we see him/them again at the census 1801 in Østrup in Albæk parish with his son Poul in his 10th year.

Notice also that at the baptism of Poul Andersen Dorgen's daughter Anne Marie in 1816 in Holbæk one of the sponsors is Niels Andersen Dorgen*s wife Dorte Marie Jacobsdatter.
*his halfbrother born 1776 !

Anders Nielsen Dorgen dies March 1,1826 in Gassum, 81 years old. And his wife
Anne Michelsdatter dies in Gassum Aug.20,1838, 80 years old.

Ole

Thomas Jensen

I am very much obliged to you for your help in finding all this information for me Ole.
Thank you so much.
Regards,
Tommy Jensen. U.K.
Interests: Lovns Area, Aalborg. Gassum area, Randers. Højslev, Lundø, Vinkel areas, Vib.
Skane area, Sweden.
Bertelsens, Utah. U.S.A.