Hans Jørgen Jørgensen

[Bill Petersen]

Greetings from cold & wet Seattle.
I am trying to find more on Hans Jørgen Jørgensen.
His marriage record ...(Opslag 140 #3... 1815 – 1891 Askø, Fuglse, Maribo) shows him as being 28 years and being from Femø. He must have died sometime between 1829 and 1831 as the wife remarries to Peder Rasmussen, 16 Sep 1831 in Stokkemarke.
So far I have been unable to find a birth, death or confirmation record. Above his name on the marriage record I think it says that he was an Enkemand...but not sure.
I have found all of the children born in Femø between 1818 and 1829.
Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated
Regards,
Bill

[Ruth Steenberg Rasmussen]

Hi Bill
In the marriage record it says:
Enkemand og halvgaardsmand: Widower and "half farmer" meaning that the tax he pays for his farm is half  - compared with a farm paying full tax.

Regards
Ruth

[Ralph Rasmussen]

Hans is elusive.  With his status, beyond the parish registers his name must appear among the recorded contracts, 'skøde og pantebrev'. 

His previous marriage must also be outside of Femø parish.  I searched for children who should still have been born in Femø, and found a possible son in Femø 1755-1815, opslag 82, top left, in 1807.  I can't even make a good guess on the son's name.  What the record may reveal is a 'kaldenavn', which I also am at a loss to read.

mvh
-Ralph

[Bill Petersen]

Thanks Ralph and Ruth.
It seems as though in every family someone turns out to be a problem. And it seems that they are
always born into a Parish where the pre-1814 records are the hardest to read.
Thanks again for your efforts, they are appreciated.
Regards,
Bill

[Niels Bjøreng]

On opslag 82 I read the father's name as Hans Jørgensen Grymer, and the son's as Hans

Venlig hilsen

Niels Bjøreng   9400

[Ralph Rasmussen]

Small wonder Hans is named Hans Jørgen.  In the years just before 1807, in which your Hans should have been too young to be married, there are two or three fathers named Hans Jørgensen:  opslag 77 (1805, just Hans Jørgen), 76 H.J. Svie, 72 H.J Bro.., 71 H.J. Grymer.

mvh
-Ralph

[Ruth Steenberg Rasmussen]

Hi Bill

Maribo, Fuglse, Femø, Nørrebye Gaardmænd, , , FT-1787, B9268
Jørgen Jørgensen   51    Gift   Hosbonde   Bonde   
Maren Rasmusdatter   47    Gift   Madmoder [Jørgen Jørgensen]      
Ellen Jørgensdatter   17    Ugift   deres Børn [Jørgen Jørgensen og Maren Rasmusdatter]      
Rasmus Jørgensen   15    -   deres Børn [Jørgen Jørgensen og Maren Rasmusdatter]      
Hans Jørgensen   13    -   deres Børn [Jørgen Jørgensen og Maren Rasmusdatter]      
Jørg: Jørgensen   10    -   deres Børn [Jørgen Jørgensen og Maren Rasmusdatter]      
Peder Jørgensen   6    -   deres Børn [Jørgen Jørgensen og Maren Rasmusdatter]      
Hans Jørg: Jørgensen   2    -   deres Børn [Jørgen Jørgensen og Maren Rasmusdatter]      


Maribo, Fuglse, Femø, Nørrebÿe, , 28, FT 1801, A3922
Navn:   Alder:   Civilstand:   Stilling i husstanden:   Erhverv:
Rasmus Jørgensen   30    ugift   Huusbonde   Bonde og Gaardbeboer
Jørgen Jørgensen   80    enke   Huusbondens fader   
Else Hansdatter   16    ugift   Tienestepige   

Confirmation: Femø 1755-1815, opslag 108: 1803 Hans Jørgen Jørgensen.

Baptism: Femø 1755-1815, opslag 44 nr. 3
1785
Dom 8. p. Trinit. blev Jørgen Jørgensen Løyet og Maren Rasmusdatters Son baptized and called Hans Jørgen presented by Maren Hansdatter. Sponsors were: Maren Larsdatter, Karen Maria Stephansdatter, Niels Frimand, Rasmus Pedersen, Rasmus Danielsen.

Regards
Ruth

[Bill Petersen]

Hi Niels, Ralph and Ruth.
Thanks for the effort you have put into this. The site must have been down for repair on Saturday,
as I was unable to get in.
Ruth, thank you very much for the census report...I think I tried that one, but have never seen that particular one.
I have thought all along that the age on the marriage record was wrong. An LDS record states that he was 38. However that was entered by a member rather than an LDS transcriber.
I think you have solved the problem Ruth, and for that I thank you.
Now to see how much more I can find.
Mvh,
Bill

[Ralph Rasmussen]

The birth of the father Jørgen Jørgensen seems elusive.  I do see a possible marriage on Femø before the birth of Ellen Jørgensdatter in 1771, in opslag 120 of Femø 1755-1815, lower right, betrothed 26 February 1763, married Trinity VI 1763.

mvh
-Ralph

[Bill Petersen]

Thanks Ralph,
The date certainly works with their ages. I have done a little digging around, but half the time I don't know what I'm looking at. Thanks again for your effort.
Mvh,
Bill