Could Someone Please Translate for Me

Startet af Michelle Bie, 04 Dec 2015 - 02:57

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Michelle Bie

Please, can someone translate this for me.

Hvid dame af Bangsbo

N ~ r Mon lreser master haven Bangsbos reldre historie, ser for noget ganske
anderledes end dagens prene og hyggeligt museum med tilhmende Iokalhistoriske
ar ki v.
I den historiske beskriveise lreser Mon,
Bangsbo var et slot, hvad voldgrav
også vidner om. Det blev opført af munkene
fra B0rglum kloster "den hvide Bmdres
Ordre "og n ~ vnes i munkenes konti
ca. 1500th
Hvor navnet kommer fra Bangsbo, kendt
ikke med sikkerhed.
I 1566 kommer Bangsbo i privat eje,
FMST tilh0rende ædle stå, men i 1744
var soIgt for h0jestbydende, og dermed
oph0fte Bangsbo til en vrere
adeisgard. I 1891 k0bte Johan Knudsen
Bangsbo, der var strerkt forfaldne
men han havde venner og bekendte der
var dygtige folk og de hjalp ham med at
genoplive den gamle Herregard.
Bangsbo blev derefter i stedet antallet
berømte forfattere, malere og aktører
kom og så festlig tid!.
Men der var i 1834 en ulykkelig
hrendeIse, hvori davrerende ejer kammerrad
Bies kone, tog sit eget liv.
Herman Bang har beskrevet den frygtelige
tragedie i illustreret Tidende i 1905:
am Bangsbos fortid ved at spille kun lidelser. Det
sagde og er sandsynligvis rigtigt, at det var Bang'er fra
Aalborg, co bygget haven.
Men SL < EGT i de fleste hundreddr spredet,
og aile sine rige godser i så mange
regioner og områder, der var snart ingen rester. Også
Bangsbo kom pd fremmedhdnd. Af Skeeler
ejes det og de AhrenfeIter. Andre sl < Egter også,
mens last og gard vanmgtedes og langsomt
Due. Et hundrede år siden tilh.rte den
dem med tynde herlighed, tror jeg, en kammerrdd. spil
har hørt er, fordi legenden går pa Bangsbo,
hans kone, kammerradinden, en morgen
h < Engte pd den gamle sorte komfur, som
men stdr i ' lichen i billard hall. Opbevaring
res som en slags monument.
Et par år siden jeg stødte på en slregtstavie,
Iwor kammerrad Bie og hans kone regnede
og jeg ønskede at undersøge hrendelsen
nærmere.
Her kommer den sande historie om
Inger Christine Bie, f0dt Christensen's uheldige
undergang som det står skrevet
håndhævelse protokol for Frederikshavn.
År 1834, 3 oktober ankom til kongen
Foged i horn Shire af Frederikshavn Lassen
henfald form edelst anden officielle transaktioner,
Hans constituerede Fuldm < Egtig Kahler
med vidner Rostrup og Bergen på
Bangsbo i anledning af anmeldelsen er fru.
Chamberlain inde Bies opstod Dedsfald til
etablere beherig kontrol.
Emma Marie Madsen
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Kammerråden Bie nyhedsbrev nu for fogeden
at hans kone anslået 10-dag morgen Kl.
der blev fundet hirngende på loft
den gmnne Hall her på Bangsbo uden hans
på den mindste grund til at være, men at han antager
på grund af den patologisk tilstand, hvor
hende skal for flere år har befundet sig antage
Gerning skete i forstyrrede tilstand.
Han spurgte dog at fogeden ønsker forhere den
Personer, der var til stede eieblikkelig er den
nirrmere Omstirndigheder og syntes tjenestepige
Inger Thggersdatter der forklarede, at
hun havde Tait Day morgen med Mrs Bie am
Vask et samfund bør finde sted, når hun nirrmere
SKU lie modtage Vasketgiet fra hans kone og
spurgte, hvor hun var i huset kunne ikke
derpå give de oplysninger, som gav anledning
til sig selv eftersegte døde.
Efter Deponentinden havde kigget
hende i flere steder, kom til Deponentinden
ender i loftet over gmnne Sal og opdaget
Hun så de døde hirngende i en
Slykke Reb. I hans Forskrirkkelse løb hun
loftet og tog allerfgrst af træoverflader Jensen
og Gartner Christian Christensen der hun
meddelte det bestået.
Hun ikke frem til hvad samfundet senere bestået
end hun så damen umiddelbart efter at være
bragt ned fra loftet. Om morgenen damen gøre
Tait havde med hende, hun havde ikke vist
enhver fast / ig Uvanlighed eller forstyrret tilstand
Men hun minder om, at lady's fortælling er den
White Lady pa Bangsbo
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Sengetøj skal vaskes sammen, dog, var lidt ejendommelige.
Hun ved ikke for at give afkald på nogen
På grund af lady's virksomhed uden den samme
SKU ligge hidmre fro den patologisk tilstand, hvor
Hustru oftere befandt sig i og hvad sygelighed
havde rost mirrkeligere i de sidste 3 en
4Dage.
Forklaring forelirst og demiteret.
Op stod Gartner Christian Christensen der
fortalte ham havde denne morgen været lavet opmirrksom
afPigen Inger Thegersdatter når han
stod i en Virrelse i Vaaningshuset og arbejdede
at der havde været en ulykke på gården, som derefter
han nirrmere ønskede at dræbe pigen der var
forskrirkket viste således at hun kunne nirppe tale,
fundet består i, at pigen havde fundet Mrs Bie
hirngende loft, snedker Jensen, der arbejdede
i Nirrheden var giort opmirrksom på
samarbejdsmekanisme. Indskyder angivet ejeblikkeligen
Hans mand kammerråden Bie det bestået
og umiddelbart efter han skyndte sig, Kammerraadell
Snedker og Jensen til loft, hvor det viste
selv at hans kone havde hirngt i et reb i Spirrrevcerket.
Døde var med muligste hastighed
skære ned og derefter sat til sengen og afklirdt,
og derefter forbi Lirgen befordring, som det
viste straks at alle midler sammen forstod de
brugen af am muligt at trække
Liv ville wag ineffektive, at se lady ait
var koldt over hele kroppen.
Hvad kan være årsag til Virret Fruens
Enterprise, ved han ikke, men at hun
har Virret morbide og tror selv på en måde
Sommetider noget mærkelig i hovedet, som
Han konkluderer af talen hun nogle gange
Ferte. Han bemirrkede gik ud at han selv
formoder det muligt, at damen kan logre blevet
hirngende afVanvare reb, hvilken indstilling
Han begrunder Omstirndighed og
måde, som rebet var knyttet, og som
Det kan logre tirnke / igt at F adjuster ønskede at sætte
Reb for at hirnge noget op, som det
var hendes skik at hirnge mange ting op til
Bevar sådan for rotter og mus.
Den lejlighed, som tog fogeden med Mirndene
sted i 0jesyn hvor damen havde fundet
og lader sig beskrive den måde, hvor det er bestået
var sket, som antages for at logre det:
Denne dame havde kastet en hest halterneck ovenfor
slutningen af Spirrrevirrket - som dog også kan
antages for at have hirngt Spirrrevirrket
og fra som det spredes af halterneck var da damen
blev fundet, mødet vil des hals og
smallere del eller den såkaldte dystre aksel hirngende
under armene. Det skulle wag
til Fgdderne kan uforvarende logre gled fro
de døde, der havde besteget til en Klunkestol.
Gartner Christian Christensen var forelirst
stemmer forklaring og demiteret. Stod op
Snedker Jens Jensen, der gjorde en med tidligere
Indskyder Christian Christensen helt konsekvent mende
Forklaring, hvorefter han blev
demiteret. Op stod ForvaIter Aagesen af
Bangsbo, der deponeres, at han har kendt fru.
Bie fra tid hun var sammen med sin mand flyttet
Bangsbo for dette forår og næste er dagligt
havde samleje med hende. Hun havde på tidspunktet
Virret usunde og lastet med melankoli og
samfundet havde for sent tillaget, han kender
de Afdedes mand, hun er den allersidste
Tid havde mange sovelese Nirtter.
Han antager derfor, med perfekt sikkerhed,
disse Omstirndigheder havde selv påvirket
på hendes forståelse havde det nogle gange
udtrykt i hendes tale. For @ med ellers adgang til kendt
Han er ikke noget de har bestået af Omstirndigheder
Dodsmaaden. Op stod HusliEreren på Bangsbo
som forklaret, at han har kendt Mrs afd0de
Bie på ca. 1 l-2 år. [Denne gang damen
ViEret morbide og melankolsk og priEcis i dette
Morgen han sætte miErke til en sådan på
Thebordet.
Denne forretning blev tilsliEde Doklor
Ahrendrup, der forklarede, at han ved at udforske
i dagens morgen tid. Spredt blandt 10 og 11
han Efler Budsendelse indfandl sig på Bangsbo,
afdøde er dels afkliEdt blev afsluttet i
en seng, tog på fo rreste og sider af
Halsen lige under UnderkiEben tydeligen spor
af et reb eller ligl1ende værktøj, der havde
ViEret solid bygget i hans levetid og dermed
Døden var bang på t Sufucation (KViElning).
I øvrigt var ingen spor af overlagt
Void.
Forre tningen sluttede og underskrevet: Kiihler
Som vidner Bergen og Rostrup
Bie født Inger Christensens død 49 år: 3.10.
Pitch. 11,1 0. 1834
Begravet efter Amlets så 4.10.1834

Fortryde ændringer

Inger Christine Bie was my 4 times great grandmother.

Ole Westermann

I don't know from where you have this badly maltreated text.
I will try my best to translate some of it about your ancestor.

But in 1834 there was an tragic occurence, where 'Kammerraad' Bie's wife took her own life.
The writer Herman Bang has described it in "Illustreret Tidende" in 1905.
On October 3rd 1834 the 'Herredsfoged' of Horns Herred arrived to Bangsbo because Bie's wife
had been found hanged in a roap on the ceiling over the green hall in the morning around 10 o'clock.
Bie meant that his wife had been mentally disturbed during several years.
The maid Inger Thøgersdatter explained, that she in the morning had spoken with mrs Bie about
some laundry, and the maid wondered about that she should also wash the bedclothings of "the
White Lady* of Bangsbo".
When later the maid had found mrs Bie hanged, she ran down and found the carpenter Jensen and
the gardener Christian Christensen, who called mr Bie, and together they ran to the ceiling, where
they cut down mrs Bie, but it was impossible to wake her to life.
At the inquiry farm-bailiff Aagesen told, that he had known mr and mrs Bie from the time, they
moved in on Bangsbo. They seemed to have been happy together, but she also seemed to suffer
from melancholy and sleepless nights.
Mr Bie told that his wife this morning at the teatable had been melancholic.
Dr Ahrendrup who had arrived between 10 and 11 and had examined the deceased in her bed, and
in the front and on both sides of the neck there were distinct traces of the roap, that had caused her
suffocation. No signs of external violence. She was 49 years old.
After permission from the county (amt) she was buried in the local cemetary.


*The manor Bangsbo is said to during several centuries to have been afflicted by the ghost of
Ingeborg Skeel, who had inherited to manor after her late husband in 1585**. Since then she
had troubles leaving the place. During the 19. century the folks at the manor told, that Ingeborg
haunted the place, and it was necessary to make her old bed with bedclothes etc now and then.
**see https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangsbo_Hovedg%C3%A5rd

Best regards
Ole


Michelle Bie

#2
I have not used this forum in a long time and forgot how to add a file so when I tried to save the file to another form that I could cut and paste it probably changed the text.

Now that I remember how to add a file I am attaching the original.

If someone can see if this can be translated I would appreciate knowing the details of Inger Christine Bie's death for my records.

Again thank you for your help.

Michelle

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Ole Westermann

Michelle,

I have not translated everything, as you are asking for the details of Inger Christine Bie's death:

On October 3rd 1834 the Royal bailiff's substitute Kähler in Horns Herred with the witnesses Rostrup
and Bergen arrived to Bangsbo to make an investigation of mrs. 'Kammerherreinde' Bie's death.
'Kammerraad' Bie announced to the bailiff that his wife had been found hanged in a roap on the ceiling
over the green hall in the morning around 10 o'clock, and he had no idea of the reason for this, but
he meant that his wife had been mentally disturbed during several years and this was the reason for
her act. He asked the bailiff to make an inquiry of the persons who had been there around the incident.
The maid Inger Thøgersdatter explained, that she in the morning had spoken with mrs Bie about
some laundry, and when she should receive this from mrs Bie and asked where she was, nobody could
tell her. So she looked for her herself.
After some searching at several places she finally came to the ceiling over the green hall and found the
deceased hanging in a piece of roap. In her shock she ran downstairs and first met carpenter Jensen and
gardener Christian Christiansen, to who she told what she had seen.
She didn't see what further happened before she saw mrs Bie been brought down from the ceiling. In the
morning when she spoke with mrs Bie, she hadn't noticed anything unusual or disturbance, but she remembers
mrs Bie's talking about the linen to be washed was peculiar. She didn't know any other reason for this, that
it came from the mentally strange condition of her mistress in which she more often was, and this had been
more strange during the last 3-4 days.
Then gardener Christian Christensen told that he this morning, when he was working in a room in the residence
by the maid Inger Thøgersdatter had been told that an accident had happened. She could hardly speek, but finally
told that she had found mrs Bie hanged on the ceiling. Also carpenter Jensen who worked nearby became aware
of this and immediately told Kammerraad Bie about the accident, and immediately they ran to the ceiling, where
they found mrs Bie hanging in a roap fixed to the rafters.
The deceased was immidiately cut down and brought to her bed and undressed, and a carriage was sent for the
doctor, as all attempts to recall mrs Bie to life were in vain, as she was allready cold on the whole body.
What the reason for her act was, he didn't know, but he knew that she had been sickly and also in a way somtimes
some peculiar 'in the head', because she sometimes spoke strangely. Finally he noticed that it was possible, that
mrs Bie by a mischance could have hanged herself in an attempt to hang up something to protect it from mice and
rats, as she sometimes did this.
Therefore the bailiff went to ceiling with the men to see, how the accident could have happened:
The mistress had thrown a halter over the the end of the rafters (could have hanged there before), the broader
part of the halter was, when she was found, sitting around her neck, and the narrower part hanging under her arms.
Maybe her feet could have slipped from a chair she had mounted. Then carpenter Jensen told the same story.
Then farm-bailiff Aagesen told that he had known mr and mrs Bie from this spring, when they moved in on Bangsbo.
He had daily spoken with her and she had seemed 'sickly' and loaded with melancholy, which lately had progressed.
From mr Bie he know that she had many sleepless nights during the latest period.
Then the houseteacher at Bangsbo explained, that he had known mrs Bie for about 1½ year, and during this whole
period she had been 'sickly' and melancholic, and precisely this morning he had noticed this at the teatable .
Then Dr Ahrendrup who had arrived between 10 and 11 and had examined the deceased in her bed, and he
described in the front and on both sides of the neck distinct traces of the roap, that had been laid there when she
was alive and later caused her suffocation. No signs of external violence. She was 49 years old.
After permission from the county (amt) she was buried in the local cemetary.

I hope this fullfills your expectations.

Ole


Michelle Bie

Yes, that is what I wanted to know. Thank you Ole.

Michelle