Hi I would love some help reading the following birth record and translating some census data.
The birth record is at Vejle, Nøvang, Grejs Parish records 1826-1836 Churchbook, Page 10, #4.
The name is Rasmus Olesen born 7 April 1831.
It looks like his father is Ole Rasmussen.
Then I found Rasmus in the Greis Bye, Grejs Census in 1834, 1840, 1845 but he is now living with the Thomas Christensen family as a Pleiesøn.
In 1834 he is listed as the dattersøn of forstenaevnte - but I am not sure if that means of Thomas Christensen or of the "Insider of dagleier" Thomas Madsen who is directly above him in the listing.
Anyway, any help would be much appreciated.
Susanne
The parents, Ole Rasmussen and Birthe Thomasdatter were married in December 1830, image 52 near the bottom - with a note that the marriage does actually belong to 1830.
That marriage record places Birthe's birth to 1808. And she must be the daughter of gårdmand Thomas Christensen. Mette Thomasdatter is among the witnesses at Rasmus Olesen's baptism, and appears in the 1834 census.
Neither of the parents appears among the 1831-1834 deaths in Grejs.
Hi Ralph,
Thank you so much - that makes many things clearer. So I guess the question is did they both die or abandon their son and emigrate? I have no information on Ole Rassmussen.
But with your and Pam's help, I have gone very well today! Thank you.
http://trees.ancestry.com.au/tree/1845358/person/-687790745
Susanne
Hi Susanne,
I think the parents moved to Øster Snede parish:
Vejle, Nørvang, Øster Snede, Kragelund Bye, , 64, et hus, FT-1834, B6869
Name: Age: Marital status: Pos. in household: Occupation:
Ole Rasmussen 33 Gift træskomand
Birthe Thomasdatter 25 Gift hans kone
Marie Olesdatter 2 Ugift deres datter
Vejle, Nørvang, Øster Snede, Kragelund Bye, et Huus, 36, FT-1840, C8703
Name: Age: Marital status: Pos. in household: Occupation:
Ole Rasmusen 37 Gift Huusmand, lewer af sin Jordlod
Birte Thomasdatter 31 Gift hans Kone
Marie Olesdatter 8 Ugift deres Børn
Thomas Olesen 6 Ugift deres Børn
Mads Olesen 4 Ugift deres Børn
Anton Olesen 2 Ugift deres Børn
Vejle, Nørvang, Øster Snede, Kragelund, et Huus, 45, FT-1845, B6247
Name: Age: Marital status: Pos. in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Ole Rasmusen 43 Gift Huusmand, lever af sin Jordlod Greis S., Veile A.
Birte Thomasdatter 36 Gift hans Kone Greis S., Veile A.
Marie Olesdatter 13 - deres Børn Greis S., Veile A.
Thomas Olesen 11 - deres Børn her i Sognet
Mads Olesen 9 - deres Børn her i Sognet
Anthon Olesen 7 - deres Børn her i Sognet
Peder Olesen 5 - deres Børn her i Sognet
Vejle, Nørvang, Øster Snede, Kragelund, et Huus, 60, FT-1850, D2795
Name: Age: Marital status: Pos. in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Ole Rasmussen 48 Gift Huusmand, lever af sin Jordlod Sindberg S., Weile Amt
Birte Thomasdatter 43 Gift hans Kone Greis S., Weile Amt
Maren Olesdatter 18 Ugift deres Børn Do [ Greis S., Weile Amt]
Mads Olesen 14 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet [ Øster Snede]
Anthon Olesen 12 Ugift deres Børn Do [ Her i Sognet, Øster Snede]
Peder Olesen 10 Ugift deres Børn Do [ Her i Sognet, Øster Snede]
Vejle, Nørvang, Øster Snede, Kragelund Skoledistrikt, Kragelund By, Et Hus, 24, FT-1860, D6406
Name: Age: Marital status: Pos. in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Ole Rasmussen 58 Gift Husmand. Lever af sin Jordlod Grejs Sogn, Vejle Amt
Birthe Thomasdatter 52 Gift Hans Kone Grejs Sogn, Vejle Amt
Peder Olesen 20 Ugift Deres Søn. Klodsemager Øster Snede Sogn, Vejle Amt
Vejle, Nørvang, Øster Snede, Kragelund, 1hus, 174, FT-1880, D4256
Name: Age: Marital status: Pos. in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Berte Tomsensdatter 72 Enke Husmoder og eier Greis Sogn, Veile Amt
Berte Jacobsdatter 50 Ugift lever af håndarbejde Her i Sognet
In 1850 Rasmus Olesen is working as a farmhand in Øster Snede parish; in 1860 he's a servant in Vejle Købstad.
At the baptism of Maria Olesdatter in Dec. 1832, Mette Thomasdatter and Christen Thomsen of Grejs are among the witnesses, as is the case at the baptism of Rasmus in Apr. 1831 (Grejs 1826-1836, opslag 28).
Best regards,
Inger Toudal
Birthe Thomasdatter was baptized 9 Jul. 1809, parents Thomas Christensen and Maren Madsdatter.
Her confirmation 1824 is in Grejs 1814-1826 (ny), opslag 51.
Inger T.
Wow that is great.
Very interesting! I still wonder why they left their son behind? Any theories?
Susanne
Maybe the parents didn't have the means to take care of 2 small children when they moved to Øster Snede
in 1833, and Rasmus was left behind with the grandparents? The parents were Indsiddere 'tenants'
(Grejs 1826-1836 (ny) opslag 86).
At the marriage in 1830, Ole Rasmussen is said to be af Holtum. It's probably the Ole Rasmusen i Holtum
confirmed 1816, born 4 Apr. 1802, parents Huusmand Rasmus Nielsen and Ane-Ca[t]rine Nielsdatter in Holtum.
(Grejs 1814-1826 (ny), opslag 41).
Vejle, Nørvang, Grejs, Holtum Bye, , 29, FT-1801, B8426
Name: Age: Marital status: Pos. in household: Occupation:
Rasmus Nielsen 46 Gift Huusbonde Husmand med jord
Cathrine Nielsdatter 32 Gift Hans kone
Niels Rasmussen 3 Ugift Deres søn
Ole Rasmussen's sponsor/bondsman at the marriage in 1830 is Niels Rasmussen from Ulkjær (Ulkær in Sindbjerg parish), probably his brother.
Inger T.
Hello!
I wonder, if you know that Rasmus' grandparents, Thomas Christensen and Maren Madsdatter owned the farm, Toftegaard i Grejs.
Maren Madsdatter was born at the farm as a daughter of Mads Thomsen and Mette Nielsdatter.
The buildings are still there, in the middle af Grejs. Mads Thomsen was a copyhold farmer, but bought it 11th of May 1793.
I have more information about that family.
Karen