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Titel: Needing some help with Birth and Confirmation entries for Jens Pedersen
Indlæg af: Lynn Christiansen Dato 26 Aug 2014 - 16:09
I have the birth entry for Jens Pedersen from 1814-1842 Østerild, Hillerslev, Thisted img 34 pg 34-#9
and FamilySearch https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-33524-26194-58?cc=2078555&wc=M5KX-4HM:357516601,359600201,359780601,359784001 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-33524-26194-58?cc=2078555&wc=M5KX-4HM:357516601,359600201,359780601,359784001)

I have:

Anno: 1834
Numb: 9
Birth date: September 15
Name: (Uægte) Jens Pedersen
Parents: Inger Marie Jensdatter i Østerild udlagt til Fader fraskild (?) Mand Peder Nielsen Sennels i Westergaard, Østerild Sogn, som ..??..
Christened: døbt i kirken d 5 October
Witnesses: Pigen Maren Harsdatter i Westergaard bar Barnet; Pigen Maren Olesdatter fulgte. Fadderen varen Gmdkarl Poul Jensen, Ungkarl Hans Christian Pedersen, sumhlige Tjentefolk Hellerg Hunsmand Jacob Hode i Østerild
Index: 237-4

I would like to get the complete and/orcorrected entry for those areas where I have en-BOLDend above.

I also have his confirmation from 1843-1861 Østerild, Hillerslev, Thisted img 63 pg 102-1849-#2
and FamilySearch https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-33524-20436-66?cc=2078555&wc=M5KX-SPX:357516601,359600201,359780601,359780602 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-33524-20436-66?cc=2078555&wc=M5KX-SPX:357516601,359600201,359780601,359780602)


for which I have

Anno: 1849
Numb: 2
No date is given
Name: Jens Pedersen hjemme far Moderen
Parents: Moderen Inger Marie Jensdatter ..??..  Peder Nielsen i Østerild
Birth: 15 Sept 1834
Evaluation: mg--mg
Vaccinated: 1836 af Wittendorff
Index: 212-42

Again the Danish for the BOLD section


I would appreciate someone looking at these two entries and providing me with the complete/corrected Danish transcriptions....Thank you...



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Titel: Sv: Needing some help with Birth and Confirmation entries for Jens Pedersen
Indlæg af: Ole Westermann Dato 26 Aug 2014 - 20:50
Lynn,

I read:

Anno: 1834
Numb: 9
Birth date: September 15
Name: (Uægte) Jens Pedersen
Parents:
Inger Marie Jensdatter i Østerild
udlagt til Fader fraskilt Mand
Peder Nielsen Sennels i Westergaard,
Østerild Sogn, som ogsaa ved skrift-
lig Tilstaaelse, herhos heftet, vedkjend-
te sig som saadan.- Første Gang
begaaet Leiermaal.-*
*Østerild Sogn, who also by written confession, hereby attached, acknowledged himself as so.-
   First time committed 'adultery'.
Christened:
døbt i kirken d 5 October
Witnesses:
Pigen Maren Hansdatter i Westergaard
bar Barnet; Pigen Maren Olesdatter
fulgte. Faddere vare: Avlskarl Poul
Jensen, Ungkarl Hans Christian Pe-
dersen, samtlige Tjentefolk i Westerg.
Huusmand Jacob Hoele i Østerild
Index: 237-4

The confirmation:
Anno: 1849
Numb: 2
Date: (see next image bottom) 15.April in Hundstrup kirke by Boesen
Name: Jens Pedersen hjemme hos Moderen
Parents: Moderen Inger Marie Jensdatter udl. Barnefader Hsmd (husmand)  Peder Nielsen i Østerild
Birth: 15 Sept 1834
Evaluation: mg--mg
Vaccinated: 1836 af Wittendorff
Index: 212-42

Titel: Sv: Needing some help with Birth and Confirmation entries for Jens Pedersen
Indlæg af: Lynn Christiansen Dato 26 Aug 2014 - 23:57
Thank you very much Ole--- :) :)

However, his confession seems a little off...

in 1818 he married Maren Christensdatter and in 1829 had an affair with Anne Cathrine Pedersdatter, which resulted in my 3rd Great Grandmother and to the divorce from Maren Christensdatter.

While divorced he had an affair (and according to his confession, his first, but then, is it "adultery" if one is divorced and not married?) with Inger Marie Jensdatter resulting in a son Jens Pedersen.

He then married Marthe Kirstine Jensdatter in 1837 who died in 1847 and he married again in 1848 to Ane Marie Jensdatter.

Based on my tracking of his life, his confession leads to questioning his truthfulness....   ??? ???
Titel: Sv: Needing some help with Birth and Confirmation entries for Jens Pedersen
Indlæg af: Lynn Christiansen Dato 27 Aug 2014 - 00:19
Another question that goes along with this---that question is:

Are divorces documented any where online? If so, where?
Titel: Sv: Needing some help with Birth and Confirmation entries for Jens Pedersen
Indlæg af: Ralph Rasmussen Dato 27 Aug 2014 - 01:15
The record leaves open whether it is the mother's first misadventure.

Titel: Sv: Needing some help with Birth and Confirmation entries for Jens Pedersen
Indlæg af: Lynn Christiansen Dato 27 Aug 2014 - 01:29
Ralph---

Are you saying that the statement pertains to the women and not the man?

I can see that, in as much as I have tracked her in every Census until her death, which leads me to another question which I'll start in another thread.
Titel: Sv: Needing some help with Birth and Confirmation entries for Jens Pedersen
Indlæg af: Ralph Rasmussen Dato 27 Aug 2014 - 14:32
In my experience, the count of encounters is those of the mother, except when it is an account of public discipline (absolution) of the man.

Titel: Sv: Needing some help with Birth and Confirmation entries for Jens Pedersen
Indlæg af: Lynn Christiansen Dato 27 Aug 2014 - 15:18
Ralph--Thanks for the explanation.