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Titel: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 02 Jul 2014 - 22:02
My great grandmother was named Anna Mette Sine Jensen. She was Born April 10, 1853 in Denmark.  I would like any information that anyone has about her birthplace or parents or anything else.  I only have information about her after the US census in 1880 after she emigrated to the USA.
Thank you Kathryn
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Ralph Rasmussen Dato 02 Jul 2014 - 23:47
In addition to my note in your other inquiry, have you tried to use Family Search (www.familysearch.org)?

We who are active in the forum may already be pursuing these lines.

Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 03 Jul 2014 - 22:56
Yes, I have used family search, ancestry.com and the Danish emigration archives.  But I can not ascertain which Sine Jensen she can be.   Thank you for the info.  Kathryn
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Heidi Ilsoee Dato 03 Jul 2014 - 22:58
Do you know when she left Denmark and if she was married when she left?
Did she leave alone or with relatives?

Heidi
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 04 Jul 2014 - 08:22
 Event Date: 28 May 1933 
Event Place: Mobile, Mobile, Alabama 
Gender: Female 
Age (Original): 80 y 1 m 18 d 
Birth Year (Estimated): 1853 
Spouse's Name: Chris Jensen 
Father's Name: William Jensen 
Mother's Name: Sine Jensen 

(from familysearch)

I think this is Sine Jensen's death index. This seems to indicate another date of birth.

Her parents' names are registered as William Jensen and Sine Jensen. I wonder if this is correct or has the informant just made it up because he did not know the names?

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Heidi Ilsoee Dato 04 Jul 2014 - 08:45
It looks like Eva has found the death og your Sine Jensen.

The birthdate seems to match:
1933 - 80 years = 1853
May - 1 month = april
28 - 18 days = 10

Born 10 Apr. 1853

If the parent names are correct we will have to wait and see when we find her. Looking...

Heidi
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 04 Jul 2014 - 10:06
Hi,

How do I count? You are absolutely right about the date of birth.

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 04 Jul 2014 - 19:06
Sine was born on April 10, 1853 and died on may 28, 1933.  Her death certificate listed her father's name as William Jensen and her mother's name as Sine Jensen.  The death certificate informant was her son Niles Peter Wilhelm Jensen.  I don't know if he guessed the names or knew them. 
Kathryn
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Erling Agesen Dato 05 Jul 2014 - 23:46
Hello,

I think this could be Sine and family in the 1880-census:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MW3S-M6P
Name:   Sine Jensen
Event Type:   Census
Event Year:   1880
Event Place:   Trufant, Montcalm, Michigan, United States
District:   240
Gender:   Female
Age:   27
Marital Status:   Married
Race:   White
Race (Original):   W
Occupation:   Keeping House
Relationship to Head of Household:   Wife
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):   Wife
Birth Year (Estimated):   1853
Birthplace:   Denmark
Father's Birthplace:   Denmark
Mother's Birthplace:   Denmark
Sheet Number and Letter:   256B
Affiliate Name:   The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number:   T9
Affiliate Film Number:   0597
GS Film Number:   1254597
Digital Folder Number:   004241737
Image Number:   00136
Household   Role   Gender   Age   Birthplace
Christian Jensen   Self   M   30   Denmark
Sine Jensen   Wife   F   27   Denmark
Amelia Jensen   Daughter   F   3   Michigan, United States
Otto Jensen   Son   M   1   Michigan, United States
John Petterson   Other   M   24   Denmark
Lars Hansen   Other   M   24   Denmark
Christian Peterson   Other   M   24   Denmark
Laurids Thermansen   Other   M   32   Denmark
Jens Ericksen   Other   M   24   Denmark
Rasmus Kjaldsen   Other   M   19   Denmark
William Jensen   Son   M   5   Michigan, United States
Foran Thermansen   Other   M   28   Denmark

Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1880," index and images, <i>FamilySearch</i> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MW3S-M65 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Sine Jensen in household of Christian Jensen, Trufant, Montcalm, Michigan, United States; citing sheet 256B, NARA microfilm publication T9.


Sine and Chris' marriage-record could be:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N3NY-59Z

Son William is probably Nels Peter Wilhelm Jensen;
his's birth-record (31 dec. 1875):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NQHB-L52

Both record's has her name as Lena, but if you look on the handwritten image Sine is more likely.

Jensen must be her surname by marriage.
Her maiden surname is likely to be a patronym from her fathers first name, William og Vilhelm in Danish,
i.e. Williamsdatter or Vilhelmsdatter.
I think you should also search for her birth and immigration under this name.

Also Census 1900 or 1910 should show year of immigration.

Good luck.

Erling Agesen
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 06 Jul 2014 - 13:29
Thank you!!!  Great info!!
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 06 Jul 2014 - 15:13
Hello,

Her maiden name could very well be Jensen because if you look at the other couples they have different surnames. Since Jensen is not an uncommon name in Denmark their surnames could have been the same.

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Erling Agesen Dato 06 Jul 2014 - 17:04
Eva,

I agree; Jensen is the absolute most common surname i Denmark,
- and the marriage-record har her surname as Jensen, so I was wrong assuming she could be Vilhelmsdatter og Williamdatter.

Kathryn,

The daeth-record (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JDPD-GM5) lists her father as William Jensen,
but could this eventually be a mistake ? - based on someone's bad memory.

The most common naming practice in Denmark in the 1850's was the use of patronym, at least in the countryside where most Danes lived.
So if she was born in the countryside, her father's first name would be Jens and his surname could be anything.

Erling Agesen





Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 06 Jul 2014 - 23:16
My mother told me that Sine herself said that her last name was Jensen just like her husband's name before they married. 

Kathryn
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: John Wrenholt Dato 07 Jul 2014 - 21:40
I have found a Mette Andersine Jensen who was born on 10 April 1853.  Here she is in the 1860 census records with her mother Grethe Nielsdatter.

Holbæk, Løve, Finderup, Tjørnelunde Skoledistrikt, Tjørnelunde By, Et Hus, 168, FT-1860, C5669
Name:    Age:    Marital status:    Position in household:    Occupation:    Birth place:
Niels Pedersen    58    Gift   Husfader. Husmand. Væver      Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Christence Christensen    55    Gift   Hans Kone      Havrebjerg Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Peder Nielsen    26    Ugift   Deres Barn      Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Christen Nielsen    22    Ugift   Deres Barn      Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Jacobine Nielsdatter    19    Ugift   Deres Barn      Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Grethe Nielsdatter    31    Fraskilt   Deres Barn      Solbjerg Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Mette Annasigne Jensen    7    Ugift   Den sidstnævntes Barn      Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt

Her birth record is 1842-1869 Finderup, Løve, Holbæk ops 67
Confirmation record is 1842-1869 Finderup, Løve, Holbæk ops 142

Although she is not an exact match for the information given, her  birth date seems to merit further research.
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 08 Jul 2014 - 15:27
John, Thank You!! It sure sounds like my Great Grandmother.  I have the name Mette Anna Sine Jensen from someone else in the extended family.  So I feel pretty sure that this Mette Annasigne is probably her.  I found the 1860 census from your info, but where do I find the birth and confirmation records?  I know that you quoted pages and places, but I don't know where to find those. 
Thank you Kathryn
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Ralph Rasmussen Dato 08 Jul 2014 - 17:32
A portal to the scanned records:

http://www.sa.dk/content/dk/ao-forside/find_kirkeboger#

Choose 'in English' from the top line. 

And the transcribed censuses:

http://www.ddd.dda.dk/soeg_person.asp

The british flag will switch the titles to English, leaving the transciptions in Danish.



Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 08 Jul 2014 - 18:17
Hello,

I looked at the birth record of Mette Andersine Jensen. Her parents were named Jens Andersen and Grethe Nielsdatter. Quite different from the names on the death certificate.

I tried to look in the moving-out lists from 1867-1874 if I could find her but I couldn't but then the quality of some pages is very poor.

EvaM
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Gitte Johansen Dato 08 Jul 2014 - 18:26
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-33492-5854-58?cc=2078555&wc=M5KW-RMN:357516301,358698601,358842601,358850701


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-33492-5369-67?cc=2078555&wc=M5KW-RMN:357516301,358698601,358842601,358850701
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 08 Jul 2014 - 18:57
Navn:  Jensen, Mette Andersine Stilling:  Jomfru
Alder:  17 Bestemmelsessted:  Ionia
Kontrakt nr.:  94700 Forevisningsdato:  5/5/1870
Sidste oph.sogn:  Ruds Vedby Sidste oph. amt:  Holbæk
Sidste oph.sted:  Rud S., Holb. A. Bestemmelses land:  USA
Bestemmelses by:  Ionia Bestemmelses stat:  ?
Skibsnavn:  Indirekte
Bemærkninger:  SOS: Rud sogn rettet til Ruds Vedby sogn IDkode: 


This could be her. There is a town called Ionia in Michigan.

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 08 Jul 2014 - 20:41
Perhaps I should have explained my enclosure. It is an emigration record. This girl, 17 years old, left Copenhagen on 5 May 1870. She was going to a place called Ionia. Before leaving she resided in Ruds Vedby parish in Holbaek county.

She was going "indirekt" which means she was changing ships somewhere. It doesn't say where. It could have been in Hamburg or an English port.

Eva
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 08 Jul 2014 - 21:58
Thank you all so much!!  I'm sure that these records must be my great grandmother.  Almost everything that my mother said fits perfectly.  Ionia, Michigan is very close to where she married and was recorded with her husband in the 1880 census.  I am absolutely thrilled to have all of this info---I thought that I would never find it.  Now I only have to find Christian Wilhelm Jensen born on May 5, 1950. I have where he and Sine were married and all the subsequent censuses.  I just can't find him in Denmark---his location or parents.  I found a Christian Jensen on Ancestry.com with the correct birth date of May 5 though.  I would appreciate any help about Christian.
Thanks again Kathryn 
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Pamela Alley Dato 09 Jul 2014 - 23:48
Her mother arriving in 1869?

Nielsen, Grethe   Stilling:    Sypige
Alder:    40   Bestemmelsessted:    Ionia, Michigan
Kontrakt nr.:    161700   Forevisningsdato:    4/12/1869
Sidste oph.sogn:    ?   Sidste oph. amt:    Holbæk
Sidste oph.sted:    Holbæk Amt   Bestemmelses land:    USA
Bestemmelses by:    Ionia   Bestemmelses stat:    Michigan
Skibsnavn:    Indirekte
IDkode:    I6969N1313
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Ellen Steen-Petersen Dato 10 Jul 2014 - 18:09
Navn:   Jensen, Christoffer   Stilling:   Landmand
Alder:   21   Bestemmelsessted:   Jonia
Kontrakt nr.:   62000   Forevisningsdato:   4/4/1870
Sidste oph.sogn:   Drøsselbjerg   Sidste oph. amt:   Holbæk
Sidste oph.sted:   Drøsselbjerg, Holb. A.   Bestemmelses land:   USA
Bestemmelses by:   Ionia   Bestemmelses stat:   ?
Skibsnavn:   Indirekte      
IDkode:   I6971Y1716   

Maybe this is Christian Jensen?

/Ellen   
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: John Wrenholt Dato 10 Jul 2014 - 23:52
Concerning Christian W Jensen:

On familysearch.org, I located a family pedigree which has this note attached:

Additional Information for Christian W. /Jensen/
Notes (1)

His parents died in Denmark.  He received some money from their estate
and he decided to come to America.  He stayed with an aunt in Michigan
and arrived in the US in 1866 after the Civil War.


I have found a Christian Jensen (no middle name) born May 19, 1850.  His mother, Bodil Larsdatter, died 1865 and his father, Jens Sørensen, died in 1866.  Here is the family shown in the 1860 census.

Holbæk, Løve, Kirke Helsinge, Vinde Helsinge Skoledistrikt, Vinde Helsinge By, En Gaard, 130, FT-1860, C5673
Name:    Age:    Marital status:    Position in household:    Occupation:    Birth place:
Jens Sørensen    65    Gift   Husfader. Gaardmand      Kirke Helsinge Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Bodil Larsdatter    45    Gift   Hans Kone      Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Mette Jensdatter    17    Ugift   Deres Barn      Kirke Helsinge Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Karen Marie Jensdatter    15    Ugift   Deres Barn      Kirke Helsinge Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Lars Jensen    12    Ugift   Deres Barn      Kirke Helsinge Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Christian Jensen    10    Ugift   Deres Barn      Kirke Helsinge Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Niels Nikolaisen    36    Ugift   Tjenestekarl      Kirke Helsinge Sogn, Holbæk Amt

Birth record: 1835-1884 Kirke Helsinge, Løve, Holbæk ops 26

I'm hesitant to post this because I'm afraid it could be a false lead but hopefully someone will be able to use it to find other information.
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 11 Jul 2014 - 09:08
http://mdoe.state.mi.us/1870CensusImages/Roll690/103R.pdf

There is a Christian Jensen in the 1870 Census of Michigan, 21 years old and being a shoemaker. At he time he was living in Menimonee.

There is also a Christian Jensen living in Greenville Vill.,  Montecalm but he is 31.

http://mdoe.state.mi.us/1870CensusImages/Roll692/88R.pdf

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 13 Jul 2014 - 19:11
John,
    Where did you find the death records for---His mother, Bodil Larsdatter, died 1865 and his father, Jens Sørensen, died in 1866.  Thank you Kathryn
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: John Wrenholt Dato 14 Jul 2014 - 00:16
Jens Sørensen death record:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-33485-11659-20?cc=2078555&wc=M5V5-Y4R:357516301,358698601,359011901,359043201 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-33485-11659-20?cc=2078555&wc=M5V5-Y4R:357516301,358698601,359011901,359043201)

Bodil Larsdatter death record:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-33485-11305-69?cc=2078555&wc=M5V5-Y4R:357516301,358698601,359011901,359043201 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-33485-11305-69?cc=2078555&wc=M5V5-Y4R:357516301,358698601,359011901,359043201)
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 14 Jul 2014 - 21:09
I can read the dates from these death records, but what do the other Danish words mean in English?
Thanks Kathryn
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 15 Jul 2014 - 08:07
Jens Sørensen:

Aftaegtsmand=pensioner, former owner, supported by the new owner of landed property, probably a son, in Vinde Helsinge, 2nd time widower. Probate on 27 March 1866.

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 15 Jul 2014 - 08:13
Bodil Larsdatter:

Farmer Jens Sørensen's wife in Videhelsinge 49 years old. Probate 9 May 1865.

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 15 Jul 2014 - 22:00
Thank you for the translation.  That is very interesting.  Is there any chance of finding Mette Andersine Jensen's parents---Jens Andersen and Grethe Nielsdatter in a marriage, birth or death record?
Any chance of finding Christian Wilhelm Jensen's parents---Jens Sørensen and Bodil Larsdatter in a marriage or birth record?  We already have Jens' and Bodil's death records.   Is Larsdr a shortened version of Larsdatter?

Also, what does the long handwritten note on the 6th column across Mette Andersine Jensen's  birth record translate to tell us?  I Cannot even understand the heading on that column. 
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-33492-5854-58?cc=2078555&wc=M5KW-RMN:357516301,358698601,358842601,358850701
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 15 Jul 2014 - 22:43
Hello,

Grethe Nielsdatter was born 2 March 1829 in Solbjerg, Løve, Holbæk. Baptized 29 March, 1829.
Parents lodger and weaver? Niels Pedersen and Kristense Kristensdatter in Solbjerg.

I can't find the book on FS.

On arkivalieronline.dk it is image 103 in book 1812-1860.

The column you mean is the names of the sponsors.

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 15 Jul 2014 - 22:54
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-33492-5158-53?cc=2078555&wc=M5KW-RMN:357516301,358698601,358842601,358850701

The parents' marriage. No. 2.

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 16 Jul 2014 - 09:13
At the wedding one of the garantors (is that the right word in English?) is a Gaardmand Michael Andersen of Vedby and the groom Jens Andersen is of Vedby. It may be him here in census 1850 taken on 1 Feb 1850:



Holbæk, Løve, Ruds Vedby, Vedby mark, 1 Gård, 43, FT-1850, C8465



Michael Andersen 40 Gift  Gårdmand, husfader Finderup, Holbæk Amt  
Mette Berthelsen 22 Gift  Hans Hustru Gørlev, Holbæk Amt  
Karen Jensen 17 Ugift  Deres steddatter Reerslev, Holbæk Amt  
Line Jensen 10 Ugift  Deres steddatter Her i Sognet  
Carl Michaelsen 6 Ugift  Deres barn Her i Sognet  
Sidse Michaelsen 4 Ugift  Deres barn Her i Sognet  
Jens Andersen 28 Ugift  Tjenestefolk Hørve, Holbæk Amt  
Jens Hansen 18 Ugift  Tjenestefolk Svinninge, Holbæk Amt  
Niels Hansen 35 Ugift  Tjenestefolk Ørslev, Holbæk Amt  

Jens A is employed by Michael Andersen on his farm. However he is a year older in the census than in the marriage record. The marriage was 17 days later?

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 16 Jul 2014 - 17:18

I looked in census 1855 for Finderup. Mette Andersine (2) was in fostercare with her grandparents together with her sister Else Marie Jensen (5). Census 1855 Finderup image 34.

Else Marie Jensen was born on 11 Dec. 1850 in Finderup, image 62 in book 1842-1869.

I couldn't find the parents.

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 16 Jul 2014 - 17:26
Jens Andersen and his wife left Finderup in 1853 and I think they went to Slagelse.

AO Finderup T/A 1852-1856 image 94, No. 69

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 17 Jul 2014 - 04:50
Any chance of finding Jens Anderson's & wife's death or burial between 1853 and 1855?  I'm assuming that they died between those dates since Mette Andersine and her sister were then living with grandparents.  Family history was that Mette Andersine came to America with relatives---not her parents.  Is Larsdr a shortened version of Larsdatter?
I don't know how you find all of this info.  I have tried.  I am very grateful for all of you assistance.  Thank you Kathryn
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 17 Jul 2014 - 05:13
Eva, I know you are giving me the location to find these facts, but I don't understand where I need to go to find AO Finderup T/A 1852-1856 image 94, No. 69.  Can you enlighten a novice? Thanks Kathryn
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 17 Jul 2014 - 08:44
I found the information on arkivalieronline.dk. If you go to that page, you will find instructions how to download the Java reader which you need to be able to see the images.

Then you choose Kirkebøger. Then Amt:  Holbæk Herred: Løve  Parish: Finderup

T=tilgang=arrival
A=afgang=departure


As to the census. Instead of kirkebøger you choose Folketællinger. Then the year and then landsogn.
Amt:Holbæk Herred:Løve Sogn: Finderup.

In census 1860 Grethe Nielsdotter was alive and was divorced. Probably the children had been left with their grandparents in 1853. Maybe the parents went looking for work and couldn't take care of their children.

The elder sister is not in census 1860. She may have died.

Somebody suggested that Grethe Nielsdatter had emigrated to America in 1869.

Eva M

PS dr is short for datter (daughter).
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 17 Jul 2014 - 13:34
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-33492-5817-33?cc=2078555&wc=M5KW-RMN:357516301,358698601,358842601,358850701

The birth record of the elder sister.

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 21 Jul 2014 - 19:57
Can someone look for Niels Pedersen (birth about 1801-1803) in the 1803 census?  He was born in Finderup Sogn, Holbæk.
Also, does anyone know why so many people are listed in one household in the following 1840 Census?  Holbæk, Løve, Finderup, Tjørnelunde, et Huus, , FT-1840, C3087
Thank you Kathryn
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 21 Jul 2014 - 20:15
Jens Nielsen and Maren Nielsdatter are servants=tjenstefolk.

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 22 Jul 2014 - 15:06
Why are so many people are listed in one household in the following 1840 Census?

Holbæk, Løve, Finderup, Tjørnelunde, et Huus, , FT-1840, C3087

There are about 100 hundred people listed in the "household".  Is it a commune or something like that?
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Eva Morfiadakis Dato 22 Jul 2014 - 15:38
I can't find the specific image but if you look in the margin before the name you see figures like 1,2 3. These figures indicate the number of families living in the house. It may be a house with several apartments.

Eva M
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Helmer Christiansen Dato 22 Jul 2014 - 16:13
It's an error.

The household number is missing in the transcribed data. So what you see is not one household but a lot of households. It is all the people living in 'et Huus' in the village of Tjørnelunde.

Images of the original census data, the village of Tjørnelunde, starts on image 22:
http://www.sa.dk/ao/billedviser?bsid=5023#5023,119038
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 19 Okt 2014 - 00:12
Would like to find the parents of any of the following:
     1) Kristine Christensdatter born 1877 in Denmark
     2) Niels Pedersen born 1802 in Finderup Sogn, Holbaek, Denmark
     3) Christence Christensen born 1805 in Havrebjerb Sogn, Holbaek, Denmark

They are all ancestors of Mette Andersine Jensen.
Thank You Kathryn
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Paul Londahl-Smidt Dato 20 Okt 2014 - 00:14
Kristense Christensen was baptized in Havrebjerg on 9 Jun 1805, father Christen Povelsen, opslag 172.  Here is the family in the 1801 census
All persons in the household

holbaek, Løve, Havrebjerg, Blæsinge, , 15, FT-1801, A5010
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Christen Povelsen    47    Gift       Bonde, Gårdbeboer, Husbond    
Margrethe Arentsdatt    36    Gift    Bonde Christen Pedersens Hustru       
Povel Christensen    13    Ugift    Bonde Christen Pedersens Og Margrethe Arentsdatters Søn       
Kirsten Christensdatter    7    Ugift    Bonde Christen Pedersens Og Margrethe Arentsdatters Datter       
Lars Hansen    25    Ugift       Tjenestekarl    
Birthe Jensdatter    11    Ugift       Tjenestepige

Sincerely,
Paul
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Paul Londahl-Smidt Dato 20 Okt 2014 - 00:37
Here is Margrete Arentsdatter with parents and siblings in the 1787 census
All persons in the household

holbaek, Løve, Solbjerg, Soelberg Bye, , 4, FT-1787, C0910
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Arent Jacobsen    56    Gift    Hosbonde    Bonde og Gaardbeboer    
Kirsten Jensdatter    53    Gift    Madmoder       
Jens Arentsen    25    Ugift    Deres ægte Børn       
Jacob Arentsen    9    Ugift    Deres ægte Børn       
Margrete Arentsdatter    22    Ugift    Deres ægte Børn       
Christenca Arentsdatter    17    Ugift    Deres ægte Børn       
Dorthe Arentsdatter    13    Ugift    Deres ægte Børn    

Sincerely,
Paul
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Paul Londahl-Smidt Dato 20 Okt 2014 - 04:28
Hi Kathryn,

According to the Finderup church records, Niels Pedersen, the son of Peder Rasmussen, was confirmed in 1820, opslag 202 nr 9.  It says he was born 4 Nov 1802.  His 1803 baptism can be found in Finderup, opslag 151.  His parents are Peder Rasmussen and Karen Nielsdatter.  Here is Peder and Karen in the 1801 census.
All persons in the household

holbaek, Løve, Finderup, Kulbÿe Bÿen, , 2, FT-1801, B7658
Name:     Age:     Marital status:       Position in household:       Occupation:       Birth place:
Peder Rasmussen    32    Gift    huusbonde    gaardmand    
Karen Nielsdatter    26    Gift    hans kone       
Jens Pedersen    2    Ugift    søn af konens 2det ægteskab       
Maria Pedersdatter    5    Ugift    datter af konens 2det ægteskab       
Anna Pedersdatter    1    Ugift    datter af konens 2det ægteskab       
Rasmus Hansen    19    Ugift    tjenestekarl       
Christopher Hansen    18    -    tjenestedreng    opfostringshuusbarn    
Margrethe Olsdatter    26    -    tjenestepiger       
Ane Rasmusdatter    16    -    tjenestepiger

Sincerely,
Paul
North Carolina, USA
Titel: Sv: Sine Jensen born 10 April 1853 in Denmark ---info on birthplace or parents??
Indlæg af: Kathryn Raymond Dato 26 Okt 2014 - 17:52
Thank you so much, Paul!!  I am thrilled with the info!  Kathryn