I am working on Jacob Olsen Knage of Vollerslev in Praesto Amt.
I am looking for a source citation for the the death of his first wife Johanne Pedersdatter (1748-1782). I have a death/burial date of 30 Mar 1782 from other sources. I believe I have located her burial record. I'd appreciate if someone can transcribe/translate the first few lines of top right of this parish record:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119847#158796,26679080 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119847#158796,26679080)
And/or the bottom right and top of next page in:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119847#158797,26679211 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119847#158797,26679211)
Could this have been a pair of childbirth deaths? It looks like there were two burials on 30 Mar 1782 including Jacob Knage's unnamed spouse and a son name Ole (age 1/2 ? ) baptized 10 Feb?
Thanks again for all your help,
Art
Can someone transcribe the first baptism in 1782 in Vollerslev (first link above, bottom left)? Is Jacob Christensen's wife carrying the child?
Art
ANNO 1782: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119847#158797,26679211
Dom[inica] 1. P[ost] Epiph[an] = [Danish: 1. Søndag efter Helligtrekongers dag]: Jacob Knages Søn Ole.
baaren af Jacob Christens[ens] hustru i Giørsløv [Gørslev Sogn, Bjæverskov Herred, Præstø Amt].
Faddere: Hans Møller, Peder Olsen, Søren Jørgensen, Andreas Olsen i Espegaard, alle i Wollersløv.
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?Indladt? [= Introduceret] Dom[inica] Esto Mihi [also "Quinquagesima", Danish: Fastelavnssøndag] Jacob Knages hustru i Wollersløv.
The date of "1. Søndag efter Helligtrekongers dag" was 13. January in 1782
The date of "Fastelavnssøndag" back then was 10. February in 1782.
So correct Ole [Jacobsen Knage] was carried at the baptism by Jacob Christensen's wife from Gørslev Sogn.
Begravet 30. Martij [1782]: Jacob Knages hustru, 34 Aar.
Begravet [possibly same date]: Jacob Knages Søn Ole.
Kilde (s. 15 left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119847#158797,26679212
Possibly Jacob Christensen in Gørslev as he is the only "Jacob Christensen" that shows up in Gørslev in both searches.
Oeders Efterretninger 1771:
Mandens navn: Jacob Christensen Mandens erhverv: Gaardmand
Mandens alder: 46 Mandens civilstand: Gift
Mandens nr. ægteskab: 2 Mand død (ja/nej): Nej
Hustru død (ja(nej): Nej Hustrus alder: 20
Hustrus civilstand: Gift Hustrus nr. ægteskab: 1
Sogn: Gørslev Herred: Bjæverskov
Amt: Præstø Stednavn: 1
Indtastningsnr: C2356 Løbenr.: 17
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Census 1787: Præstø, Bjæverskov, Gørslev, Giørslev, , 8, FT-1787, B3768
Jacob Christensen 66 Gift Hosbonde Bonde og gaardbeboer
Karen Olsdatter 39 Gift Madmoder
Mette Jacobsdatter 23 Ugift Hans datter af første ægteskab
Ole Jacobsen 14 - Deres fælles barn
Christen Jacobsen 9 - Deres fælles barn
Søren Jacobsen 2 - Deres fælles barn
Margrete Jacobsdatter 5 - Deres fælles barn
Kilde: Dansk Demografisk Database
If it is the correct "Jacob Christensen", then it was Karen Olsdatter, who carried Ole [Jacobsen Knage].
Have you found Jacob Olsen Knages father [what is his patronymic name ? ] in Oeders Efterretninger 1771 ?
Jacob Olsen [Knage] in Census 1787 I presume with his new young wife.
Folketælling 1787: Præstø, Bjæverskov, Vollerslev, Vollersløv, , 5, FT-1787, B4016
Jacob Olsen 36 Gift Husbonde Bonde og gaardbeboer
Sidse Jensdatter 20 Gift Madmoder
Margrethe Jacobsdatter 2 - Hans datter af andet ægteskab
Thomas Larsen 24 Ugift Tienestekarl
Bodil Jacobsdatter 16 - Tienestepige
Ane Nielsdatter 12 - Tienestepige
Poul Nielsen 10 - Tienestekarl
Kilde: Dansk Demografisk Database.
Niels, thank you for your help! It is too bad that the early parish records did not always list the deceased wife by name. After they were standardized around 1814, they are sometimes a wealth of information.
Jacob Olsen Knage was an interesting story. He was married five times and the majority of his children and wives died young.
Art
Citat fra: Art Berggreen Dato 16 Apr 2022 - 15:54
Niels, thank you for your help! It is too bad that the early parish records did not always list the deceased wife by name. After they were standardized around 1814, they are sometimes a wealth of information.
Jacob Olsen Knage was an interesting story. He was married five times and the majority of his children and wives died young.
Art
Hi Art
That is either very bad luck or something more sinister - yet again I once found a woman who became a widow for the 3rd time when she was 26, though her 4th husband lasted a long time.
It was dangerous times with bad harvest and epidemics.
1782 is actually the year a Law on helping to combat epidemics in rural Denmark was introduced: https://danmarkshistorien.dk/vis/materiale/forordning-om-smitsomme-sygdommes-helbredelse-og-udbredelse-17-april-1782/
As for not writing the wives names (exception the marriage) it is actually more seen in the 1700's than in the 1600's where the wives names more often appears with childrens baptisms and burials!
It does changes from priest to priest though...
Cheers
Niels
Citat fra: Niels Just Rasmussen Dato 16 Apr 2022 - 15:13
Have you found Jacob Olsen Knages father [what is his patronymic name ? ] in Oeders Efterretninger 1771 ?
Jacob Olsen [Knage] in Census 1787 I presume with his new young wife.
Folketælling 1787: Præstø, Bjæverskov, Vollerslev, Vollersløv, , 5, FT-1787, B4016
Jacob Olsen 36 Gift Husbonde Bonde og gaardbeboer
Sidse Jensdatter 20 Gift Madmoder
Margrethe Jacobsdatter 2 - Hans datter af andet ægteskab
Thomas Larsen 24 Ugift Tienestekarl
Bodil Jacobsdatter 16 - Tienestepige
Ane Nielsdatter 12 - Tienestepige
Poul Nielsen 10 - Tienestekarl
Kilde: Dansk Demografisk Database.
I haven't pursued the parents of Jacob Olsen Knage. His fifth wife, Jørgine Hansdatter, was the half-sister of my 2nd greatgrandfather, Jørgen Hansen, through their shared father Hans Christiansen Gutfeldt. My records indicate that Jacob Olsen was born in Gummersmarke, Bjæverskov parish, but I have not found any parish records for that.
Sidse Jensdatter in the 1787 census was actually his third wife. He married his second wife Anne Stephensdatter 23 Oct 1782 and she died 28 May 1786. He married Sidse Jensdatter 24 Sep 1786.
Art
Hi Art.
Gummersmarke is in Bjæverskov Sogn: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%A6verskov_Sogn
Bjæverskov has only churchbooks preserved from 1780......so that makes it quite difficult.
There is this possible father in Gummersmarke!
Aurelia Clemons has made these (highlight) skifte transcriptions:
Skifte Giesegaard Gods - Juellund: 29. April 1769 efter Ole Nielsen, Gummersmarke, Bjøverskov Sogn.
Gift 2. gang med Maren Sørensdatter.
Barn/Børn:
Søren Olsen 1?
Margrethe Olsdatter 4
Gift 1. gang med Margrethe Jensdatter, død - 9-11-1757
Barn/Børn:
Peder Olsen 27
Poul Olsen 25 - hjemme
Niels Olsen 23 tjenende, Bjæverskov, Spanagger gods
Jacob Olsen 21 [so still unknown if this is Jacob Olsen Knage].
Karen Olsdatter 17
Ellen Olsdatter 15 - hjemme
Værge: Peder Jørgensen gmd, Gummersmarke, Bjæverskov
Vidner: Søren Pedersen gmd, Lidemark, Stifs Waloe gods / Christen Hansen, Gummersmarke, Bjæverskov
Kilde: https://www.faesterogskifter.dk/InfoSpage.aspx?id=370974
Original not online yet.
So maybe going through these siblings ("faddere" at their childrens baptism) perhaps it can be figured out if tis "Jacob Olsen" end up living in Vollerslev Sogn.
One of the brothers actually seem to end in Vollerslev.
Skifte Giesegaard Gods - Juellund: 14. Februar 1784 after Poul Olsen in Gummersmarke, Bjæverskov Sogn.
Gift med Ane Danielsdatter
Barn/Børn: Ole Poulsen 10
Hans Poulsen 3
Maren Poulsdatter 6
Brødre: Peder Olsen gmd, Vollerslev
Vidner: Lars Hansen gmd, Gummersmarke, Bjæverskov
Kilde: https://www.faesterogskifter.dk/InfoSpage.aspx?id=371035
Original not yet online.
Poul Olsen was 25 years old and Peder Olsen 27 years old at the Ole Nielsen skifte from 1769.
Likely the half-brother Søren Olsen (son af Ole Nielsens 2. wife):
Skifte Giesegaard Gods - Juellund: 29. December 1825 after Søren Olsen in Gummersmarke, Bjæverskov Sogn.
Gift 2. gang med Margrethe Jensdatter
Barn/Børn: Jens Sørensen 9
Ole Sørensen 6
Gift 1. gang med ...
Barn/Børn: Maren Sørensdatter 19
SIS.Barn/Børn: Søren Jacobsen gmd, Gørslev
Slægtning: Jens Jensen gmd, Vollerslev
Vidner: Jens Jørgensen gmd, Gummersmarke, Bjæverskov
Kilde: https://www.faesterogskifter.dk/InfoSpage.aspx?id=371179
Gummersmarke is a small village with 5 farms in 1798!
Source: https://goerslev-omegn.dk/lokalomraadet/gummersmarke/
Map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/4632+Gummersmarke/@55.446436,12.0001296,17.83z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4652f2a52401c5e9:0xa00afcc1d50b580!8m2!3d55.446433!4d11.9993
So in skifte 1769 after Ole Nielsen the oldest son Peder Olsen was 27 years!
It must be him here in Oeders Efterretninger 1771:
Mandens navn: Peder Olsen Mandens erhverv: Gaardmand
Mandens alder: 28 Mandens civilstand: Gift
Mandens nr. ægteskab: 1 Mand død (ja/nej): Nej
Hustru død (ja(nej): Nej Hustrus alder: 27
Hustrus civilstand: Gift Hustrus nr. ægteskab: 2
Sogn: Vollerslev Herred: Bjæverskov
Amt: Præstø Stednavn: 1
Indtastningsnr: C2365 Løbenr.: 7
Kilde: Dansk Demografisk Database.
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Folketælling 1787: Præstø, Bjæverskov, Vollerslev Sogn, Vollersløv, , 2, FT-1787, B4016
Peder Olsen 47 Gift Husbonde Bonde og gaardbeboer
Dorthe Pedersdatter 46 Gift Madmoder [Fits the above with the wife being 1 year younger than him]
Margrethe Pedersdatter 14 Ugift Deres fælles barn
Ole Pedersen 12 - Deres fælles barn
Jens Pedersen 10 - Deres fælles barn
Karen Pedersdatter 7 - Deres fælles barn
Niels Pedersen 6 - Deres fælles barn
Hans Pedersen 1 - Deres fælles barn
Jørgen Pedersen 21 Ugift Tienestekarl Nationalrytter
Ellen Pedersdatter 70 Enke(mand) Konens moder
Kilde: Dansk Demografisk Database.
Remember this:
ANNO 1782: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119847#158797,26679211
Dom[inica] 1. P[ost] Epiph[an] = [Danish: 1. Søndag efter Helligtrekongers dag]: Jacob Knages Søn Ole.
baaren af Jacob Christens[ens] hustru i Giørsløv [Gørslev Sogn, Bjæverskov Herred, Præstø Amt].
Faddere: Hans Møller, Peder Olsen, Søren Jørgensen, Andreas Olsen i Espegaard, alle i Wollersløv.
So is this fadder Peder Olsen in Vollerslev his older brother?!
Fæsteprotokol Giesegaard Gods: Juellund Gods. [the "Fæsteprotokol" is online!]
Dato 20. April 1771.
..skøder og fæster til ungkarl og landsoldat Peder Olsen i Gummersmarke paa Juellunds Gods, som ?livet? [= levede (hos)] Stiff Faderen [= Stedfaderen] Jens Olsen i Gummersmarke ?dend? [= den] Gaard paa Juellunds Gods i Wollerslev Sogn og Bye, Tryggevælde Amt, som afgangne Lars Olsen beboede.....
Kilde (s. 92, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=20650911#329269,66234388
NB: So he had just taken over the fæstegård in Vollerslev from the deceased Lars Olsen, when Oeders Efterretninger was compiled in 1771!
Så when Ole Nielsen died in 1769 did Peder Olsen live at his father brother (Jens Olsen?) indtil he took over the Fæste from the deceased Lars Olsen in 1771?
Here is the skifte after the deceased Lars Olsen 11. Juni 1771:
Gift 2. gang med Dorthe Pedersdatter
Barn/Børn: Jens Larsen ½ eller 1
Gift 1. gang med Karen Pedersdatter, død 20-01-1769
Barn/Børn: Thomas Larsen 10 eller 12, I-352
Jacob Larsen 6 eller 7
Far: Ole Henrich Larsen inds, Vollerslev
Hustruens far: Peder Henrichsen, Gørslev, Universitets gods
? Peder Olsen fæsteren af hjemme [So Peder Olsen is the new "fæster", who married the widow of Lars Olsen = Dorthe Pedersdatter, see census 1787].
Værge: Peder Hansen inds, Wollerslev
Kilde: https://www.faesterogskifter.dk/InfoSpage.aspx?id=370981
NB: Oeders Efterretninger 1771 stated that the wife of Peder Olsen were in her 2nd marriage!!
Jens Olsen took over the Fæste i Gummersmarke AFTER Ole Nielsen in 1769!
Giesegaard Gods: Juellund Fæsteprotokol.
19. Maj 1769.
...skøder og fæster til Jens Oelsen tienende Stiff Faderen Niels Jørgensen i Reinemarck paa Spanaggers Gods [Spanager part of Giesegaard Gods], den Gaard i Gummersmarcke Bye i Biæwerschou [Bjæverskov] og Tryggewelde Amt, som fæst af Ole Nielsen....
Kilde (s. 86, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=20650911#329269,66234382
NB: So Jens Olsen takes over from deceased Ole Nielsen and that is why (Ole Nielsen's son) Peder Olsen (still living at home) has Jens Olsen af "Stiff-fader" from 1769 to 1771, until he gets his own fæste in Vollerslev!
Oeders Efterretninger 1771:
Mandens navn: Jens Olsen Mandens erhverv: Gaardmand
Mandens alder: 25 Mandens civilstand: Gift
Mandens nr. ægteskab: 1 Mand død (ja/nej): Nej
Hustru død (ja(nej): Nej Hustrus alder: 42
Hustrus civilstand: Gift Hustrus nr. ægteskab: 2
Sogn: Bjæverskov Herred: Bjæverskov
Amt: Præstø Stednavn: 2
Indtastningsnr: C0276 Løbenr.: 41
Kilde: Dansk Demografisk Database.
NB: Did he marry the widow of Ole Nielsen (Maren Sørensdatter), when he took over the "Fæste"? (it's very likely given her age!)
Folketælling 1787: Præstø, Bjæverskov, Bjæverskov Sogn, Gumesmark, , 1, FT-1787, B3765
Jens Olsen 42 Gift Husbonde Bonde og gaardbeboer
Birthe Olsdatter 23 Gift Hustrue [new wife]
Sørren Olsen 19 Ugift Hans barn med første hustrue
Ole 13 Ugift Hans barn med første hustrue
Anna 16 Ugift Pleiebarn fra opfostringshuuset
Lisbeth 11 - Pleiebarn fra opfostringshuuset
Kilde: Dansk Demografisk Database.
NB: So the Søren Olsen who dies in 1825 could also be the son of Jens Olsen.......
So the puzzle is enfolding, but now you do have something concrete to work from!
Cheers
Niels
Look at this!!
Here is the skifte after the deceased Lars Olsen 11. Juni 1771:
Gift 2. gang med Dorthe Pedersdatter
Barn/Børn: Jens Larsen ½ eller 1
Gift 1. gang med Karen Pedersdatter, død 20-01-1769
Barn/Børn: Thomas Larsen 10 eller 12, I-352
Jacob Larsen 6 eller 7
Far: Ole Henrich Larsen inds, Vollerslev
Hustruens far: Peder Henrichsen, Gørslev, Universitets gods
? Peder Olsen fæsteren af hjemme [So Peder Olsen is the new "fæster", who married the widow of Lars Olsen = Dorthe Pedersdatter, see census 1787].
Værge: Peder Hansen inds, Wollerslev
Kilde: https://www.faesterogskifter.dk/InfoSpage.aspx?id=370981
So Dorthe Pedersdatter's father was Peder Henrichsen, Gørslev Sogn, Universitets Gods and Peder Olsen marries her after Lars Olsen died and takes over the Fæste in Vollerslev!
Then see this Skifte after Johanne Pedersdatter 5. April 1782 Juellund Gods.
Gift med Jacob Olsen,gmd [= Jacob Olsen Knage]
Ingen børn [Ole died]
Far: Peder Henrichsen gmd, Gørslev, Universitets gods
Kilde: https://www.faesterogskifter.dk/InfoSpage.aspx?id=371024
So Johanne & Dorthe Pedersdatter are sisters!!
Skifte efter Peder Henrichsen af Giørsløw 15. April 1785, Universitets Gods.
Widow: Ellen Jensdatter.
Son: Niels Pedersen.
Daughter: Dorthe Pedersdatter, gift med Peder Olsen, gaardmand i Wollersløw, Juellund.
Daughter: Birthe Pedersdatter, 26 Aar, ugift.
Kilde (s. 232, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=22917836#486878,86703355
This must be Peder Henrichsen in Oeders Efterretninger 1771:
Mandens navn: Peder Henrichsen Mandens erhverv: Gaardmand
Mandens alder: 61 Mandens civilstand: Gift
Mandens nr. ægteskab: 1 Mand død (ja/nej): Nej
Hustru død (ja(nej): Nej Hustrus alder: 50
Hustrus civilstand: Gift Hustrus nr. ægteskab: 1
Sogn: Gørslev Herred: Bjæverskov
Amt: Præstø Stednavn: 1
Indtastningsnr: C2356 Løbenr.: 14
Kilde: Dansk Demografisk Database.