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Titel: Help with finding a Mother and son.
Indlæg af: aileen young Dato 20 Jan 2020 - 01:18
Have been trying to find what became of,

Maren Jensdatter Faystrup Knopp Onsberg, born 7 February 1751 Ale Sogn ,Vrads, Skanderborg.

She was a Widow when she married Rasmus Onsberg on 26 November 1783 in Horsens Nim Skanderborg.
Rasmus Onsberg died in May 10 1784 record in Horsens Vor Frelser Nim Skanderborg.

Their son Rasmus Onsberg was born on the 6 June 1784 record in Horsens Vor Frelser Nim Skanderborg.

Have tried to read the deaths in Horsens Vor Frelser Skanderborg but cannot find any dates for 1884.

I cannot find them in any census 1801 or 1834.

Rasmus Onsberg Snr. is great uncle to my great grandfather.

Maybe Maren married again and Rasmus to his stepfathers name.

Any help would be welcomed.

Aileen Young
Titel: Sv: Help with finding a Mother and son.
Indlæg af: Lisa Petersen Dato 20 Jan 2020 - 17:06
The death of Rasmus Onsberg is found here, on the left side, 7th entry down from top   https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164482,27628252 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164482,27628252)

Do you know there is an index to marriages and deaths of Horsens Vor Frelser on AO?   https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17148231#188591,31877020 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17148231#188591,31877020)

Also, churchbooks in the Åle area have been extracted by Bente Feldballe   http://www.milloup.dk/bf/index.htm (http://www.milloup.dk/bf/index.htm)

I will look a little more for your Maren Jensdatter.

Lisa Petersen
near Washington D.C.
Titel: Sv: Help with finding a Mother and son.
Indlæg af: Inge Hedal Dato 20 Jan 2020 - 17:39
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171056#171056,28713159
1751
den 7 Febr.
Døbte Jens Pedersen Broemands Datter Maren.

http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=200680&sort=e

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171056#171056,28713199
1775
Den 6 Oct
Unge Karl Monsr. Peder Knup af Horsens
og Jomfrue Marens Jensdatter Faistrup af
Brev Copulerede.

Inge Hedal
Titel: Sv: Help with finding a Mother and son.
Indlæg af: Lisa Petersen Dato 20 Jan 2020 - 18:15
adding one line

1775
Den 6 Oct
Unge Karl Monsr. Peder Knup af Horsens
og Jomfrue Marens Jensdatter Faistrup af
Aastedbroe efter allenaadigst forundt Konge
Brev Copulerede.


Here is a possibility for your Maren Jensdatter, but it's very uncertain and needs more research.  The age is a little bit wrong and there are many Maren Jensdatters in Horsens.

married 7 Sep 1785 Mahler svend Hans Friederic Staal og Enken Maren Jensdatter, som var frie fra Accuse  https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164482,27628255 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164482,27628255)
buried 8 Dec 1795 Maler Staals kone, 43  https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164483,27628379 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164483,27628379)

Lisa P.
Titel: Sv: Help with finding a Mother and son.
Indlæg af: Inger Toudal Dato 20 Jan 2020 - 18:56
Peder Lorensen Knob was buried 4 Jul. 1783 in Horsens:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17148231#188591,31877217 - left page

Skanderborg, Nim, Horsens Købstad, Smede Gade, 47, 346-F2, FT-1787, C4104
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     
Fridrich Haael*     34     Gift      husbonde      malersvend     *) Staael

1787 Census: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid761348 - see Original Source

- I read Fridrich Staael

But where is his wife?

He died 1806: http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=367032&sort=e

Venlig hilsen
Inger Toudal
Titel: Sv: Help with finding a Mother and son.
Indlæg af: Inger Toudal Dato 20 Jan 2020 - 19:57
Citat fra: Inger Toudal Dato 20 Jan 2020 - 18:56

Peder Lorensen Knob was buried 4 Jul. 1783 in Horsens:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17148231#188591,31877217 - left page

Seems his name was Peder Sørensen Knob:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164482,27628103 - left page, No 41

http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=200561&sort=e

Probate extracts for Horsens: https://www.brejl.dk/horsens.html

1723 Peder Sørensen Knop, købmand i Horsens. 16.7.1784, fol.154.
E: Maren Jensdatter. LV: Jeppe Kuhlmann, bager i Horsens, Daniel Grundaks, rådstueskriver sst, Claus Vrang, købmand sst,
[Rasmus] Onsbjerg, vagtmester sst, der ægter enken, men døde. A:
1) mor Anne Kirstine, enke efter Søren Knop i Horsens. LV: Nikolaj Frydensberg, prokurator i Horsens
2) søster Kirstine Sørensdatter Knop g.m. Jens Schrøder, knapmager i Horsens
3) søster Kirsten Sørensdatter Knop g.m. Terkild Nielsen Kjær i København
4) søster Anne Sørensdatter Knop. FM: Peder Houmann
5) bror Peder Jacob Sørensen Knop 23 i København
6) halvbror Niels Buch, grovsmed i Horsens

LV = Lavværge 'widow's guardian'

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Inger
Titel: Sv: Help with finding a Mother and son.
Indlæg af: Inger Toudal Dato 20 Jan 2020 - 21:46
The index to marriages and deaths in Horsens Vor Frelsers Sogn does not contain persons under 14 years of age:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17148231#188591,31877022 - right page

Death records for 1784 start here: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164482,27628251

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Inger
Titel: Sv: Help with finding a Mother and son.
Indlæg af: aileen young Dato 21 Jan 2020 - 12:29
Thank you Inge, Lisa and Inger, for all the wonderful Information which you have found for me on Maren Jendatter and on her 3rd marriage.

Thank you Inger for the dates to look for Rasmus Onsberg death, I hope to pick his name out , other wise one could find him somewhere in the 1834 census.

Aileen
Titel: Sv: Help with finding a Mother and son.
Indlæg af: aileen young Dato 22 Jan 2020 - 05:37
Dear Inger,

Have found in Horens Vor Frelsers Sogn SKanderborg, Enesteminsterialborg.
1743-1786.
Deaths 1785 ops351.

No36 I think it is 12 August, I could only pick out the name Rasmus.

Could you transcribe the death for me to see if it Rasmus Onsberg who Iam now looking for.
Aileen
Titel: Sv: Help with finding a Mother and son.
Indlæg af: Inger Toudal Dato 22 Jan 2020 - 10:29
M: 36 d. 12 [Aug.] kastet Jord paa R??s liden Søn Rasmus 20 Uger
gammel døde af ?? Syge

20 weeks old: born in 1785.

Venlig hilsen
Inger
Titel: Sv: Help with finding a Mother and son.
Indlæg af: aileen young Dato 23 Jan 2020 - 05:00
Thank you so much Inger for the transcription, I can now close looking for him .
Thank you for all the help you give me.

Aileen
Titel: Sv: Help with finding a Mother and son.
Indlæg af: Lisa Petersen Dato 23 Jan 2020 - 13:26
I don't think the death of 20-week-old Rasmus is the one you are looking for. 

death 12 Aug 1785, right side near top, https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164482,27628253 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164482,27628253)

I think he was a son of Christian Rostoch.

baptism 25 Mar 1785, left side near middle, #17, https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164482,27628245 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164482,27628245)

17 Dreng d. 25 ejusdem Christian Rostoch, et barn kaldet Rasmus, baaret af Jens Peters kone......

The death records are easier to read once you get to 1787.   ;)

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164483,27628375 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123984#164483,27628375)

Good luck!

Lisa P.