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Titel: 2 brothers Hans Nielsen, Niels Nielsen, born where ?
Indlæg af: Lisa Petersen Dato 01 Jan 2020 - 17:52
Hej

I am trying to find the baptisms of these 2 brothers.  I don't know the parents' names or where they were born.  I've followed clues in these records, without luck, but maybe I'm missing something obvious?

Hans Nielsen
Birth:      ca 1736  (death year 1791 - age 55 = 1736)
Marriage 1:      Anne Pedersdatter, 29 Sep 1758, Thyregod, Nørvang hd., Vejle amt, https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127068#170404,28611648 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127068#170404,28611648)
Marriage 2:      Agnete Poulsdatter, 9 Nov 1769, Randbøl, Tørrild hd., Vejle amt, https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125556#167384,28104288 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125556#167384,28104288)
Burial:      6 Feb 1791, Lindeballe, Tørrild hd., Vejle amt, https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17122824#162316,27275265 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17122824#162316,27275265)
Skifte:  7 Apr 1791, Koldinghus amt, heirs are widow Agnete, no surviving children from 1st marriage, 6 surviving children from 2nd, https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=194124#194124,32528696 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=194124#194124,32528696)
cannot find him on 1787 census

Niels Nielsen
Birth:      ca 1742  (death year 1772 - age 30 = 1742)
Marriage:      Johanne Jacobsdatter, 3 Nov 1769, Nørup, Tørrild hd., Vejle amt, https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125556#167384,28104205 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125556#167384,28104205)
Burial:      22 Mar 1772, Nørup, Tørrild hd., Vejle amt, https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125556#167384,28104180 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125556#167384,28104180)
Skifte:  7 May 1772, Engelsholm, heirs are widow Johanne, son Niels age 4, https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=192782#192782,32320987 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=192782#192782,32320987)

På forhånd tak og godt nyt aar til alle.

Lisa Petersen
ved Washington D.C.
Titel: Sv: 2 brothers Hans Nielsen, Niels Nielsen, born where ?
Indlæg af: Henning Grøndahl Andersen Dato 05 Jan 2020 - 12:17
Hej Lisa Petersen.

Da jeg så dit indlæg, tænkte jeg på de to sogne du blandt andet søger i. Thyregod og Nørup, hvor jeg har udbredte slægts medlemmer.

Men tingene går ikke så let. Det første jeg slog efter var en Kirsten Pedersdatter, f. 1720, men da brudgommen var f. 1736, opgav jeg ideen igen.
Hans og Anne fik en søn Niels i 1769 døbt d. 14. januar, han døde 22 år gl. i 1790.

Hans Nielsen kan man ikke finde i Brændgaard, Lindeballe sogn i Ft. 1787. Min teori er, at der er faldet et par sider ud af den oprindelige ft. for Lindeballe sogn?

Niels Pedersen fik en søn f. ca. 4 år før sin død. Jeg har eftersøgt sønnen i Nørup sogn, men har ikke fundet ham der.

Jeg har været på jagt efter de to brødre, men ikke fundet dem fødte.

Desværre ikke megen held denne gang
men mange hilsner og ønsket om at du finder dem engang.

Henning Grøndahl Andersen,
Thyregod


Titel: Sv: 2 brothers Hans Nielsen, Niels Nielsen, born where ?
Indlæg af: Ole Westermann Dato 05 Jan 2020 - 13:24
Hej Lisa

You could try to search the transcribed records from the area here http://www.horsboel.dk/kirkebog/kirke.html

mvh Ole
Titel: Sv: 2 brothers Hans Nielsen, Niels Nielsen, born where ?
Indlæg af: Anne Mette Hou Dato 05 Jan 2020 - 13:26
Hej Lisa,

I didn't have much luck finding the two brothers either.

Hans Nielsen & family should be in Lindeballe in FT1787, but they are not, and I agree that something could be missing, as it's quite clear from the church books that they live there.

As for Niels Nielsen: could it be a 1, and not 4, in https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=192782#192782,32320987 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=192782#192782,32320987)? A Niels Nielsen has a son Niels baptized 12 April 1771: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125556#167384,28104128 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125556#167384,28104128). It doesn't really give any clues to where the father is from though.

I used this https://www.horsboel.dk/kirkebog/kirke.html  (https://www.horsboel.dk/kirkebog/kirke.html)for a quick search of the relevant parishes (in case you don't know about it already).

Good luck finding them & godt nytår.

Anne Mette
Titel: Sv: 2 brothers Hans Nielsen, Niels Nielsen, born where ?
Indlæg af: Lisa Petersen Dato 05 Jan 2020 - 15:40
Hej Henning, Ole og Anne Mette

I have also thought that some pages are missing from the FT-1787 for Lindeballe.  I think Hans Nielsen should be there.

And I am also suspicious about the son Niels age 4 because I cannot find a son born to Niels Nielsen at that time. 

I have used Jens Erik Starup's website and wonderful transcriptions of church books.  I have found a lot of people there, but not the parents of Hans & Niels Nielsen (yet).

The only hope I have found is the possible birth of Niels Nielsen in Egtved in 1742:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17122284#161194,27080800 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17122284#161194,27080800)
Ao 1742, Dominica prima Adventus [2 Dec 1742] læst over Niels Halssens Sön Niels af Egtved, hold af Ole Olessens Hustrue ibidm.  Faddere:  Peder Væstergaard, Peder Munch, Hans Pederssen, Hans Skræders Hustrue og Peder Smids Hustrue, alle i Egtved.

The father Niels Halssen's last name has some letters written over, so I am not sure of the spelling.  It could be Hansen.  FS has it as Halssek.  So now I am trying to follow clues in this baptism record.

Thank you for all your help.

Lisa P.
Titel: Sv: 2 brothers Hans Nielsen, Niels Nielsen, born where ?
Indlæg af: Grethe Leerbech Dato 05 Jan 2020 - 16:44
Hej Lisa
I am quite sure his name is Niels Hansen. If you read carefully you'll se that the l is changed for an n, and at the end it is a s, So it could be Hanses, but the priest has corrected the name badly. If i look at it, I can see he has written Hansen .Why he put the s with thick letter over the n-behind I can't look through- maybe due to little room for the letter at the end of the page. But his name is Hansen(s)