Good morning,
I have already had wonderful help with interpreting old script and am now having trouble with some old words, although I do speak Danish. I am looking at records relating to my Great Great Grandmother who seems to have a very hard life.
The following records shows that she left her parish of birth in 1837, some month after giving birth to her child (she was unmarried). She seems to have gone to Winding which is where the baby's father was said to life. What I am wondering is what do these words mean Føder Sigende Frugtsommelig ? Mange tak for hjaelpet
Christine
1837, 30. august afgået fra Ørre sogn: Ane Pedersen (født 1810), Tstpige for Forpagter i Ørre Præstegaard til Winding. Anmærkn.: Føder Sigende Frugtsommelig.
Good morning to you too,
If translated directly from Danish to English:
"Føder" - gives birth to
"Sigende" - if it says "efter sigende" it can be translater to "according to" or "the rumour says"
"Frugtsommelig" - pregnant.
Link to the churchbook: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17128652#173794,29239766 - No 76
Anmærkninger: Efter Sigende frugtsommelig
- said to be with child.
Arrives in Vinding parish, Ringkøbing county, 21 Aug. 1837:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128104#172360,28941561 - No 5
Gives birth to a baby boy 24 Aug. 1837:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128104#172360,28941499 - No 7
Are you sure she's identical with Ane Marie Pedersdatter mentioned in https://www.slaegtogdata.dk/forum/index.php/topic,144626.0.html ?
Venlig hilsen
Inger Toudal
The expertise on this forum is amazing. Thank you! This woman, Anne Marie Pedersdatter, is the mother of the Anne Marie Roedkjaer, who I originally asked about. The new information makes sense - I had seen other records where she has a son as well. It looks as if she went to Vinding, where the father of her daughter lived, to look for help in circumstances where she was pregnant again. I do not think she ever married. There is a family rumour that the father was a well off man who helped her and her daughter out financially but the records I have seen do not bear that out - at various times they were desperately poor and living on parish assistance.
. Our foremothers often had very hard lives.
thanks again for the help
Christine
I think you should consider Ane Marie Pedersdatter, 32 y, leaving Ørre parish 4 May 1842, going to Sinding parish:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17128652#173794,29239771 - No 213
Ringkøbing, Hammerum, Ørre, Holmhuus, -, 58, FT-1840, C4260
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Jens Harreskov 32 Gift Huusmand, Skomager
Konstanze Chathrine N. Datter [Nielsdatter] 42 Gift hans Kone, Jordemoder
Maren Nielsdatter 20 Ugift deres Datter
Ellen Ottosdatter 11 Ugift Pleiebarn
Ane Maria Rørkjer 4 Ugift Opdrages af Huusfaderen for Betaling
Ringkøbing, Hammerum, Sinding, , Elkjær et Huus, 34, FT-1845, C1457
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birthplace:
Mette Pedersdatter 76 Ugift væver Deiberg
Ane Marie Nielsdatter 67 Enke Fattiglem fra Ørre Ørre
Ane Marie Pedersdatter 36 Ugift hendes datter Ørre
Ane Marie Christensdtr 9 Ugift dennes uægte Barn Ørre
Ringkøbing, Hammerum, Sinding, Elkjærhuus, Huus, 22, FT-1850, B8262
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birthplace:
Ane Marie Nielsdatter 72 Enke Inderste, Almisselem Ørre
Karen Pedersdatter 44 Ugift Inderste, lever af Dagleie Ørre
Ane Marie Pedersdatter 42 Ugift Inderste, lever af Dagleie Ørre
Ane Marie Christensen 13 Ugift førstnævntes Datter Ørre
NB: The birth record 1836 says the alleged father was now living in Winnerslev.
Ane Marie Rødkjær's confirmation 27 Apr. 1851 in Ørre: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17128652#173794,29239721 - No 3
Venlig hilsen
Inger
Ane Marie Pedersdatter, 43 y, leaving Ørre parish 16 Jul. 1853, going to Ikast parish:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17128652#173794,29239789 - No 12
Ringkøbing, Hammerum, Ikast, Ikast, En gaard, Høiriis, 10.1, FT-1855, D3355
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birthplace:
Jørgen Christian Godt 49 Gift Eier af gaarden og sognets kirke og halve kongetiende Lønborggaard
Caroline Magrethe Lund 40 Gift Hans kone Liselund, Viborg Amt
Lorentz Thomas Godt 20 Ugift Deres sønner Hee S.
Thomas Godt 16 Ugift Deres sønner Hee S.
Magrethe Gierdorff Lassen 47 Ugift Huusjomfru Søborg S., Frederiksborg Amt
Søren Mortensen 27 Gift Tøndetærskere Bording S.
Jens Ottesen 31 Ugift Tøndetærskere Lyngs S., Thisted A.
Niels Nielsen Steensen?? 17 Ugift Røgtere Her i Sognet
Niels Frederik Christian Nielsen 14 Ugift Røgtere Paa Fødselsstiftelsen i Kjøbenhavn
Anne Marie Pedersen 45 Ugift Tjenestepiger Ørre S.
Mette Kirstine Nielsen 21 Ugift Tjenestepiger Sunds S.
Karen Pedersdatter 29 Ugift Tjenestepiger Her i Sognet
Christine Kirstine Nielsen 17 Ugift Tjenestepiger Sunds S.
Ringkøbing, Hammerum, Ørre, Ørre bye, Et huus, 7, FT-1855, D3744
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birthplace:
Ane Marie Nielsdatter 78 Ugift Almisselem Ørre Sogn
Karen Pedersdatter 50 Ugift Dagleier Ørre Sogn
Ane Marie Nørkjær 19 Ugift Gebræklig paa legemet, almisselem Ørre Sogn
Ringkøbing, Hammerum, Ikast, Høiriis, En gaard, 15.1, FT-1860, D3359
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birthplace:
Jørgen Christian Godt 54 Gift Proprietair og huusfader Lønberggaard
Caroline Magrethe Lund 45 Gift Hans kone Liselund, Viborg Amt
Lorentz Thomas Godt 25 Ugift Deres børn Her i Sognet
Christen Thomas Godt 23 Ugift Deres børn Her i Sognet
Thomas Godt 21 Ugift Deres børn Her i Sognet
Magrethe Gjersdorph Lassen 52 Ugift Selskabsdame Tømmerbye S., Thisted Amt
Andreas Nielsen 19 Ugift Tjenestefolk Faberg Sogn
Jens Marthinus Sørensen 19 Ugift Tjenestefolk Gjimsing S.
Laust Peter Henriksen 21 Ugift Tjenestefolk Tørring S.
Anders Nielsen 17 Ugift Tjenestefolk Bording S.
Jens Christian Johannessen 31 Gift Tjenestefolk Gjellerup S.
Søren Borsinggaard Jensen 16 Ugift Tjenestefolk Eistrup S., Skanderb. A.
Anders Christensen Ylleberg 70 Gift Tjenestefolk Bording S.
Frands Poulsen 69 Gift Tjenestefolk Rind S.
Johanne Marie Hansen 19 Ugift Tjenestefolk Bording S.
Maren Nielsen 15 Ugift Tjenestefolk Bording S.
Anne Marie Christensen 60 Ugift Tjenestefolk Bording S.
Anne Marie Christensen 23 Ugift Tjenestefolk Ørre Sogn [maybe Ane Marie Rørkjær?]
Anne Marie Pedersdatter 50 Ugift Tjenestefolk Ørre Sogn
Venlig hilsen
Inger
Thank you Inger - I think that may make more sense actually and the reference to Anne Marie Rodkjaer having a disability age 19 is one I have come across elsewhere. Mange tak!
Census 1855, Ørre: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid8071023 - see Original Source
- Ane Marie Rørkjær (not Nørkjær)
Ane Marie Rødkjær, 23 y, leaving Ørre parish 12 Nov. 1859, going to Ikast parish:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17128652#173795,29239988 - No 23
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Inger
I am rather sure that Ane/Anne Pedersen and Ane/Anne Marie Pedersdatter are 2 different women.
mvh Ole