Hello,
I'm looking for help in finding what I can about the family of Peder Jensen and Maren Larsdatter in Schibsbye.
All I have on this family is this census:
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1550007
I've gone through the marriages in Sankt Olai parish without any luck finding them.
Any help finding other records would be greatly appreciated.
thank you
Cyndi
Son Jens born 1794:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548454 - left page, Octobr d 13
Son Lars born 1799:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548458 - left page, Janv: 18de
Daughter Else Marie born 1802:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548460 - right page, D 17 Mart:
Daughter Ellen Marie born 1805:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123820#164084,27548555 - left page, D 25 Aug.
Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Hjørring Købstad, Hjøring, Østergaden, 139 F1, FT-1834, C5684
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Peder Jensen Skippershøi 71 Gift Dagleier
Maren Laursdatter 69 Gift hans Hustrue
Maren Larsdatter, Peder (Jensen) Skippershøi's widow, died 27 Jul. 1836:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17148227#188589,31876887 - left page
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123824#164085,27548769 - right page, top
Peder Jensen Skippershøi died 24 Oct. 1835:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123824#164085,27548758 - left page, No 234
Best regards,
Inger Toudal
Seems they were married 4 Jul. 1794 in Hjørring Sankt Hans parish:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548437
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548440 - right page, Maj d: 26de
- he was born in Skippershøy, if I read correctly.
Skipperhøj is a place name in Astrup parish, Vennebjerg district, Hjørring county.
- source: http://www.krabsen.dk/stednavnebase/
Best regards,
Inger
Ingar,
Thank you very much. This helps a great deal. ;)
I see what I did wrong....I was just looking in Sankt Olai for the marriage record.
Gratefully,
Cyndi
Revisiting this post.
It looks like previously I was looking for the wrong wife. I want to add all the new information I have on this family and ask for any advice anyone on this forum is willing to share.
The Peder I'm looking for was not married to Maren Larsdatter but instead Anne Marie Poulsdatter.
Now seeking the following information:
1. Death date and place of Anne Marie Poulsdatter (see below – we did find a probate)
2. Date and place of 2nd marriage to Maren Jensdatter (see below – we did find the birth of a son 1812 and a census that proves this union)
3. correct Confirmation record for Peder if possible
ALL THE INFO I CURRENTLY HAVE ON THIS FAMILY:
Peder Jensen Sort
born Tornby, Hjorring 1770 Father Jens Nielsen, Mother Inger Nielsdatter
Peder was born in Tornby, Hjorring, lived in Skisby, Sankt Olai, Hjorring and ends up in Rubjerg.
Peder has 3 brothers: Niels, Jorgen, and Michel....found in the 1789 Military roll with
Father Jens Nielsen born in 1738.
There were 3 Jens Nielsen's in Tornby. Figured out the Jens Nielsen born in 1738 would be the correct Jens Nielsen because of confirmation records found for Jens Nielsen SORT
#5 under 1755 along with censuses showing his birth in 1738.
1755 Confirmation of father - Jens Nielsen April 6 1755
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=170607&side=99 (http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=170607&side=99)
Jens Nielsen Sort was baptized Dom 1 p. Trin 1738, the 1st Sunday after Trinity 1738 which was June 8, 1738.
1770 Birth/baptism record of PEDER JENSEN July 1 1770
Parents Jens Nielsen and Inger Nielsdatter
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645091 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645091)
Hjørring A., Vennebjerg H., Tornby sogn. 1739FKVD-1798FKVD. Opsl. 5.
1770. 9. Samme dag [1. juli] blev Jens Nielsen (BK2899) og Inger Nielsdatters (BK17291) Barns Daab forkÿndt for Menigheden som tilforn var hiemmedøbt og kaldet Peder.
Peder Christensens hustru (wife) bar Barnet (carried the child).
Faddere: Anders Lilholt, Christen Thomsen, Jens Olesen, Jens Christensen.
confirmation record for all four brothers:
Confirmation dates with baptism dates for the 4 brothers in the Tornby records:
* Niels Jensen 1784 #11 Niels Jensen Dom Palm 1766 (March 23, 1766)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645193 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645193)
* Jorgen Jensen MISSING???? (would love to find this too if anyone else has any luck)
* Michel Jensen 1788 #9 Dom 12 p Trin 1768 (Aug 21 1768)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645194 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645194)
* This one I either have the wrong Peder Jensen or the age is wrong.
Peder Jensen 1790 #7 (right side) age 17 (about 3 years off) Need correct record
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645194 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127176#170601,28645194)
1789 - Military records
1789 Hov 12= Tornby Old # none- New #191 Tornbye Age 20 height61 or 64 Fuglsig Svagelieg? - begiert tiente i Sønderlef. ????
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18201,1032148 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18201,1032148)
1789 He is in Fugelsig begiert (wanted) Tiente i (served in) Søndelef
* 1793 Hov 15= St Olai no old # why? 141 Tornbye 21 63 Fuglsig - I think need translation but part says FL = From Levy district no. 12
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18279,1057229 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18279,1057229)
1793 (he's a SAILOR)
Still in Fugelsig
Fik fri Pas 94 (got free Pass)
S.L. (Sølimit - which means that is transfered to the searolls- which are not online - yet)
Begiert af Godsejeren (wanted by the owner of the Estate)
- and then he is striken out from the roll.
1795 C Hov 28 = st Olai MISSING????? From this book SHOULD BE RIGHT BETWEEN HIS BROTHERS JORGEN AND NIELS
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18292,1059940 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18292,1059940)
"Samme Fader" - same father, as for the last record on the previous page.
from previous roll: Han er streget over i lægdsrullen. Peder Jensen. Tornby. 2x?, 63. Fuglsig. Begæret af godsejeren. (His name is stretched over after demand from his land owner. Meaning not available for military service other than the landowners).
1800 MARRIAGE to Anne Marie Poulsdatter in HJorring, Venn., Hjorring, Denmark (maybe Sankt Catharine)
Oct 31 1800
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548414 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123820#164083,27548414)
Hjørring A., Vennebjerg H., Sankt Hans og Olai sogn. 1780FKVD-1804FKVD. 42.
1800. 31. okt. viede 28. nov. Peder Jensen (BK17290) her af Byen og Pigen Anne Marie Povlsdatter (BK17492). Forlovere undertegnede:
Niels Christensen og Niels Jensen
1801 Census records – Peder and his wife Anne Marie show up in different places for this census
1801 Peder Jensen (married living with employer)
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1519102 (https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1519102)
This census shows Peder living with his employer....
131 Peder Jensen Sort Male 29 1772 Married Tjenestefolk
note he is married but his wife is not there. His wife is living with her mother in this census:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=26146#26146,2897191 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=26146#26146,2897191)
1801 Census Anne Marie Poulsdatter (living with her mother): Hjørring, Vennebjerg, Hjørring Købstad, Østergade 91, , 117, FT-1801, B8161
Maren Andersdatter 63 Enke Tilleje boende Haandarbejde
Anne Marie Poulsdatter 35 Gift(married) Hendes datter
1802 birth of a son:
9 april 1802
Jens Born in Rubjerg
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=42 (http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=42)
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166797&side=97 (http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166797&side=97)
brother Jorgen Jensen Sort is witness
1810 Death of 1st wife Anne Marie Poulsdatter still needed
Found probate for Anne Marie Poulsdatter --- Anne Marie's probate:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=193623#193623,32457334
(//http://)The date they start the probate is November 28 1810, and it is not completed until January 12 1811.
looked in the church records in both Rubjerg and Maarup (same book), but she is not there
So either they forgot to note her burial in the church book, or she died somewhere else, but I would think that it would have been noted, if she died somewhere else
18?? 2nd wife Maren Jensdatter NEED RECORD
no marriage record but here is the birth and confirmation record of a son:
1812 Birth of a son with Maren Jensdatter
Christen Pedersen 6 Nov 1812
BIRTH record: http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=57 (http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166795&side=57)
Confirmation 1826?: http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166797&side=102 (http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=166797&side=102)
Brother of Peder, Jorgen Jensen Sort is a witness
1834 Census in Rubjerg
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid3127523 (https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid3127523)
1834 census in Rubjerg Hjorring
269 Peder Jensen Sort Male 64 1770 Married Boelsmand lever af sin jordlod
270 Maren Jensdatter Female 62 1772 Married Hans kone
271 Christen Pedersen Male 22 1812 Single
1840 Census in Rubjerg
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid4271631 (https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid4271631)
Maren Jensdatter and Peder Jensen in Rubjerg 1840
In 1840 he is retired (aftægtsmand) and tennant (inderste) - living in a house, he didn´t own.
He is married to Maren Jensdatter.
In 1845 he is a widow living with his son Christen Pedersen and family.
1845 Census in Rubjerg
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid5324318 (https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid5324318)
Census Year 1845 Name Peder Jensen Age 75
County Hjørring Hundred Vennebjerg Parish Rubjerg Placename Ruberg Bye
Born date 1770 Born Place Rubjerg sogn (this is INCORRECT - military records show born in Tornby. Possibly the census taker just assumed since this family has been long known to be from Sortfelt which is in Rubjerg. But they trafveled to Tornby then Sankt Olai and then son's returned to Sortfelt)
108 Christen Pedersen Male 33 1812 Married Husmand lever ene af sin jord
109 Zidsel Rasmusdatter Female 36 1809 Married Hans kone
110 Peder Christensen Male 8 1837 Single Deres barn
111 Rasmus Peter Christensen Male 6 1839 Single Deres barn
112 Peder Jensen Male 75 1770 Widow Mandens fader aftægtsmand
1846 Death in Rubjerg:
From Sortfelt died 23 Feb 1846 age 76
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/churchbook/sogn430/churchlisting135513/opslag14685221 (https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/churchbook/sogn430/churchlisting135513/opslag14685221)
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Military rolls for his son Jens:
(didn't find any rolls for 2nd son Christen)
1801 J Tilg
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18300,1061643 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18300,1061643)
17=Rubjerg
image # 34 Old # (none) New #K95 Birthplace Rubjerg Born 9 April 1802
Father Peder Jensen
Jens
And
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18301,1061898 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18301,1061898)
1803 A Hov 17=Rubjerg image 134 Old #K95 New #66
Thanks
Cyndi