I have been searching for quite sometime for the death of ,
Johanne Rosine Amalie Knudsen born Winther born February 18 1831 in Hevidbjerg, Refs, Thisted. to Christian Hans Winther and Mette Marie Hoist born Schmidt.
Johanne married Rikart Nicoljai,Ludvig Cilius Knudsen on March 28 1852 in Alling,Skanderborg.
Rikart died October 11 1877 record in Helligand Sogn, Sokkelund Kopenhavn.
I have found a 1870 census on the family search of a record of
Ludvig Ricard Silius Nicolaji Knudsen in Vejle but there was no view.
Have not been able to find any other recorded census for the family on DDD.
Have found on other family trees,
Dates of Johannes's death
1872 ? where
12 December 1877 Arhus
Her son John Ludvig Knudsen made is confirmation in Frederiksborg,Tikob,Lyne-Kronborg on the 4 April 1875 Ops123 No 11 only his fathers name was mentioned.
have searched Helligand sogn 1870-1891 all of 1872 and Dec 1877.
Any help would be welcomed.
Aileen Young
1870 census, Vejle købstad: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL8G-ZM1N
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS21-RSRK-R?i=1251&cc=2778656
The youngest son from the 1870 census is in foster care in Bregnet parish, Randers county at the time of the 1880 census:
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid11292117
His confirmation 1882: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17121912#160542,26982469 - nr. 2
According to Richard's death record, he's a widower:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17115801#151109,25084869 - top
- Anmærkninger: Enkemd. = Enkemand
Best regards,
Inger Toudal
There is a reference to the probate after Richard here where the wife mentioned as previously dead.
Maybe the probate mentions the date of the death.
http://www2.statsbiblioteket.dk/mediestream/avis/record/doms_aviser_page%3Auuid%3Abfaa0590-0f43-421c-b589-ecd36c1c53c3/query/"Johanne%20Rosine%20Amalie"
Best
John
Thank you Inger for the extra information ,
I used to be able to find the census and wills/probate on the old A/O
but I can't seem to be able to get passed the 1st couple of pages with this new one.
Thank you John ,
My computer is unable to open with the link you have given me , so I shorten it, and it opened in newspapers.
I put in his name but no hits.
Aileen
I hope these links work: http://www2.statsbiblioteket.dk/mediestream/avis/search/%22johanne%20rosine%20amalie%20winter%22
http://www2.statsbiblioteket.dk/mediestream/avis/search/%22richard%20nicolai%22/date/1870-01-01%2C1880-12-31
- click on each newspaper page to see the pages.
Best regards,
Inger
Hi again,
Richard Nicolai Cilius Ludvig Knudsen died October 11,1877 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17116786#204763,38848956):
Se this proclamation in the newspaper archive (http://www2.statsbiblioteket.dk/mediestream/avis/record/doms_aviser_page%3Auuid%3A5c4563b8-fd69-4d03-859a-c0c0315a72d6/query/%22richard%20nicolai%20cilius%22).
A reference to the probate is found in this register (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=14815658#51221,37954975).
The probate is here (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=14815658#51221,37954975). No mentioning of Johanne Rosine Amalie Winther, though.
But at least you know she died before October 11, 1877.
Added:
Here is the family in the census from 1870 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS21-RSRK-R?i=1251&cc=2778656). Note that this is from the census for Vejle in Jutland, so the death of Johanne might be there.
Best
John
Aarhus Domsogn
nr. 37
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=173239#173239,29114969
http://www2.statsbiblioteket.dk/mediestream/avis/record/doms_aviser_page%3Auuid%3A486b2c86-104d-4cdd-8821-b94bd61726a8/query/johanne%20winther%20knudsen
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Well done Gitte.
What should we do without the newspaper archive?
Best
John
Burial protocol for Richard (https://www.kbharkiv.dk/kildeviser/#!?collection=5&item=122181). Number 3865.
/john
John, your link to the probate is the same as your link to the index (register).
Probate: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17056262#136764,34196716 - No 182
Best regards,
Inger
Thanks Inger,
Here is the correct link (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17056262#136764,34196716).
Best
John
Ludvig Knudsen's wife, who had died about 6 years earlier, and his 5 children, 3 of them minors, are mentioned on the left page here:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17056262#136764,34196718
On the left page here there's a reference to Beh. Pr. p. 48: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17056262#136764,34196719
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16515164#136783,34197836 - No 182
- the probate continues on p. 51, then p. 52 etc., but I cannot find anything about his wife and children. I skimmed through it until here:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16515164#136783,34198066 - right page (continues in Beh. B. p. 5)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16515164#136784,34198094 - right page
Best regards,
Inger
Once again thank you, thank you Inger, John and Gitte, for the great information you have provided for me.
Ludvig Knudsen was my great grandfather's 1st cousin , Ludvig's mother and my great grand father's father were brother and sister.
Aileen