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Titel: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Claude Anders Hanson Dato 07 Okt 2017 - 17:44
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1274/churchbook/source135374/opslag14666410
I need help reading the parents column and the attendees column.  Thanks so much. I guess I also need to verify the birth and baptism dates!   Claude
Titel: Sv: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Ole Westermann Dato 07 Okt 2017 - 18:31
Dear friend Claude

Born 3 August
Bapt. 8 August 1869 in Rindom church
Parents:
Farmer (Gmd - gaardmand) Anders Jacobsen and wife Karen Christensen, 31 yo from Østerby in Rindum
Witnesses:
The girls Maren Holm and
Ane Jensen,
Millconstructor (møllebygger) Chr. Holm,
farmer P. Christensen,
bachelor (ungkarl) Jens Lund all from Rindom.

mvh Ole
Titel: Sv: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Claude Anders Hanson Dato 08 Okt 2017 - 04:16
Thanks Ole - you gave me exactly what I wanted.  Right this hour I am still trying to find the location of the birth of ANNA MARIA WIND who was born 10 Oct 1874  whose father was Hans Wind and mother was Anna Maria Friis ... and I'm sure they must be from Haderslev county or Ribe or Viborg...at least somewhere in that  general area.  Hope you are well.  claude
Titel: Sv: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Ellen Steen-Petersen Dato 08 Okt 2017 - 20:46
Anna Marie Vind is born in Arrild parish, Tønder.

Last entry on page:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=200907#200907,38046333 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=200907#200907,38046333)

/Ellen
Titel: Sv: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Ole Westermann Dato 08 Okt 2017 - 21:53
And you probably would appeciate help with that, Claude:

Born 10 October
Anna Marie Vind
Bp. at home 13 Oct
publ. in church 16 Oct?

Parents (in 1 line):
Hans Hansen Vind, farmer, and wife Anne Marie Friis in Øbjerg.

Witn:
Peder Nielsen? R...er, Vestergasse, Skjærbæk parish
Peder Chr Friis, bachelor in Kloutoft, Hellevad parish
Mikkel Petersen Kjær, bachelor, Vestergasse
Laurits Hansen smallholder in Østergasse
Margretha Hansen girl from Hønning

Ole
Titel: Sv: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Ellen Steen-Petersen Dato 08 Okt 2017 - 23:10
Anna Marie Vind's parents get married in Arrild:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=200907#200907,38046395 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=200907#200907,38046395)

1st ægteskab (1st marriage)
Hans Hansen Wind, 25 aar, Ungk., Gaardm. i Øbjerg
Vacc. 10. aug. 1850 af Dr. Reimers (vaccinated by)
Anna Marie Friis, 28 aar, Pige, opholdende sig i Øbjerg
Vacc. 7. oktober 1850 af Dr. Grauer
Forlovere (witnesses)
Anders Hansen Wind i Øbjerg, Hans Hansen Friis i Klautoft
Viede 23. maj [1872] i kriken (married on .. in church)


Hans Hansen Wind born on Nov 22nd  1846 in Arrild, Tønder:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=200905#200905,38045820 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=200905#200905,38045820)
Parents: Gmd. Anders Hansen Wind and Anna Bodel Marie nee Høms i Arrild

Dead: Jul 21st 1922   Rejsby, Tønder.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=202283#202283,38343906 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=202283#202283,38343906)

Anna Marie Friis born Aug 7th 1843 in Hellevad, Aabenraa:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=201641#201641,38215672 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=201641#201641,38215672)
Parents: Hans Hansen Friis and Anna Maria nee Gail

Dead: Jan 31st 1939  Visby, Tønder:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=202918#202918,3847818 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=202918#202918,3847818)

/Ellen
Titel: Sv: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Claude Anders Hanson Dato 09 Okt 2017 - 04:12
Thank you both for your extensive help.  I've spent all day working in the garden and thinking about how I could put what little information I have about Anna Maria Wind in some kind of format that perhaps someone would be able to give me a clue of what to do next... and you two just really came through!!!  I'm doing this family history for a person I worked with as a school administrator for about 25 years.  She is now 90 years old and her family was from Denmark and she knew almost nothing... and was excited when I showed her what I had found on my family.  She will be shocked when I give her what I will eventually put together.  Again, many thanks to both of you!  You really made this an exciting day!!!  Claude
Titel: Sv: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Ellen Steen-Petersen Dato 09 Okt 2017 - 10:03
Note, in Hans Hans Wind's death record it reads: He leaves behind the widow Anna Marie nee Friis and 7 daugthers, of who 2 in Arrild.

She'll most likely have family in Denmark.

/Ellen
Titel: Sv: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Ellen Steen-Petersen Dato 09 Okt 2017 - 11:49
From the census of 1860:

Tønder, Hviding, Arrild (Slesvigsk), Øbjergby, Gaard, 62, FT-1860, D6997
Navn: Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien: Erhverv:    Fødested:
Anders Hansen Wind     53     Gift     Gaardmand. Huusfader       Arrild Sogn 
Bodil Marie Høms     47     Gift     hans Kone          Skjærbæk Sogn Haderslev Amt 
Hans Hansen Wind     14     Ugift     deres Søn          Arrild Sogn 
Hans Peder Brodersen     22     Ugift     Tjenestefolk          Arrild Sogn 
Andreas Lauritsen     39     Gift     Tjenestefolk          Vilslef Sogn Ribe Amt 
Ane Cathrine Beyer     40     Ugift     Tjenestefolk          Skjærbæk Sogn Haderslev Amt 

Aabenraa, Sønder Rangstrup, Hellevad, Klovtoft, En Gård, 86, FT-1860, D7388
Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Hans Hansen Fries     70     Gift     Gårdmand og Husfader     Hellevad Sogn, Aabenraa Amt 
Anne Marie f. Geil     54     Gift     Hans Kone          Gram Sogn, Haderslev Amt 
Hans Peter Fries     29     Ugift     Deres Barn          Hellevad Sogn, Aabenraa Amt 
Jens Peter Fries     27     Ugift     Deres Barn          Hellevad Sogn, Aabenraa Amt 
Peter Christian Fries     19     Ugift     Deres Barn          Hellevad Sogn, Aabenraa Amt 
Anne Christine Fries     21     Ugift     Deres Barn          Hellevad Sogn, Aabenraa Amt 
Anne Marie Fries     17     Ugift     Deres Barn          Hellevad Sogn, Aabenraa Amt 
Jalle Botille Fries     9     Ugift     Deres Barn          Hellevad Sogn, Aabenraa Amt 
Titel: Sv: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Claude Anders Hanson Dato 11 Okt 2017 - 03:22
Thanks Ellen:  I spent some time today trying to find the family on a census record... and I found it on the 1845 census and it listed his wife as a Petersen.... do you have any idea why the family would 'temporarily' have a different mother?  Or perhaps, she went by two different names.  Let me know what you think.  And thanks so much for all of your help!  You are a Godsend!!  Claude
Titel: Sv: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Ellen Steen-Petersen Dato 11 Okt 2017 - 18:32
Hi Claude

Census 1845
Aabenraa, Sønder Rangstrup, Hellevad, Clautoft Dorf, Hufe, 26, FT-1845, C3482
Navn:    Alder:    Status:  Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Hans Hansen Friis     54  Gift          Hufner     Horsbych 
Anne Maria Petersen     37  Gift          Seine Frau     Kastrup, Hadersleben A. 
Hans Peter Friis     15            ihre Kinder     Clautoft 
Jens Peter Friis     13            ihre Kinder     Clautoft 
Maren Friis     11               ihre Kinder     Clautoft 
Anne Kjestine Friis     6            ihre Kinder     Clautoft 
Peter Christian Friis     4            ihre Kinder     Clautoft 
Anne Maria Friis     2            ihre Kinder     Clautoft 
Maren Johnsen     75   Enke     Abnehmefrau    Sønderenlev 

The explanation is in Anna Maria’s birth record In Gram Parish, Haderslev (right side in the middle):
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=201466#201466,38161319 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=201466#201466,38161319)

Parents: Jens Petersen and Kirsten Bay a daugther in Thiset
Anna Maria Geil
Born: Apr 17th. [1806] Baptised: Apr 18th.  In church:  May 26nd

So, she is baptised 'Geil', but her fathers last name is Petersen.

/Ellen
Titel: Sv: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Ellen Steen-Petersen Dato 11 Okt 2017 - 18:44
Hans Hansen Friis and Anna Maria Geil get married here:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=201639#201639,38215021 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=201639#201639,38215021)

Hellevad Parish, Aabenraa June 24th 1830: Hans Hansen Friis .. and smallholder in Claustofte and Anna Maria Geil.

It's a bit difficult for me to translate it for you, as it is in German.

Regards
Ellen
Titel: Sv: Help with birth #7, image 18, Rindum Kirke, Jacob Christian Jacobsen
Indlæg af: Claude Anders Hanson Dato 12 Okt 2017 - 03:11
Thanks Ellen:  I had looked at that birth record and had some help; however, we were so intent on finding Geil that we missed the more significant part.  Now, I at least know who her parents are.  Thanks again for all your help!