Birthdates of Louis Davidson Dec. 7 1844 Denmark and Christine Gregersen June 1837 Denmark taken from grave markers. Gave birth to a female named Ida Bell Davidson on January 20, 1968 in Denmark also from grave marker.
What I am looking for is any information prior to their arrival in the US, which is about 1868-70. I have their death records and most of the pertinent info from their arrival. They settled in Wisconsin, USA. Every record shows only "Denmark". The following is family lore:
Christine was from a wealthy family and was dis-inherited when she eloped with Louis Davidson. Her father owned a lot of land. It was said that Christine's maternal grandmother was a lady of the Kings Court. Christine was disowned when she married Louis. Louis stated in one record that they were married in 1866. The brother of Christine (Thor) was a sea captain and owned a ship. He died at sea and left Christine a large inheritance. This was after they left for America which would be 1868-1870. Inheritance appears to have been received in the 1871-1875 period.
Louie's family had owned a lot of land but lost it due to some tragedy and as such was not worthy of Christine's hand in marriage. It was said that Louis would not talk about his family or any past, hence no records show anything other than Denmark.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Looking for birth records of Louis, Christina and Ida Belle, where they were born in Denmark and parents names. I have looked thru the Danish census but can find nothing definitive since I have no idea of his parents names.
Ann Thorsen
Hi Ann
Would you please confirm, this is the family of who. you are searching for the danish background?
Census 1880, Westport, Dane, Wisconsin:
9. Davidson Loui M 36 Head Married Farmer, Denmark
10. Davidson Christina F 42 Wife Married, Denmark
11. Davidson Ida F 10 Daughter Single, Denmark
12. Davidson Peter M 8 Son Single, Denmark
13. Davidson Samuel M 6 Son Single, Wisconsin
14. Davidson Tilda F 4 Daughter Single, Wisconsin
15. Davidson Anne F 1 Daughter Single, Wisconsin
According to this census, they must have left Danmark in the years 1872-1874.
But according to the 1870 census, Louis Davidsen might have been in Wisconsin before these year time:
30. Anderson Ole D 54 M Denmark Overhoved (underforstået)
31. Anderson Johanna 52 F Denmark Kone (underforstået)
32. Anderson Anna 15 F Illinois Datter (underforstået)
33. Anderson Andrew 12 M Wisconsin Søn (underforstået)
34. Anderson Nels 10 M Wisconsin Søn (underforstået)
35. Anderson Hans 6 M Wisconsin Søn (underforstået)
36. Davison Louis 26 M Denmark
Do you have any more information on their immigration (travelling together etc)?
Regards
Ellen
Yes this is the family however later research shows that Peter was born in Wisconsin, not Denmark. I have searched all the passengers lists from 1868 to 1872. I just found the naturalization record for Ida and it shows born in Denmark in 1868 and came to America via New York in July, 1871. I can find no passenger records for her. Since her brother was born in Wisconsin in June, 1871 it does not seem likely to me that she would have arrived in 1871.
Ann Thorsen
I think I found them. First censuses:
Tønder, Tønder, Højer og Lø, Brede (Kongerigsk), Brede By, Borg Skoledistrikt, En Gård, 4, FT-1860, D7673
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Hans Jensen Feddersen 46 Gift Gårdmand og Husfader Daler Sogn, Tønder Amt
Christine f. Endrup 38 Gift Hans Kone Brede Sogn, Ribe Amt
Niels Endrup Petersen 20 Ugift Deres Barn Brede Sogn, Ribe Amt
Cathrine Feddersen 15 Ugift Deres Barn Brede Sogn, Ribe Amt
Esther Marie Feddersen 13 Ugift Deres Barn Brede Sogn, Ribe Amt
Jens Feddersen 3 Ugift Deres Barn Brede Sogn, Ribe Amt
Carl Feddersen 1 Ugift Deres Barn Brede Sogn, Ribe Amt
Jens Sørensen Bendsen 42 Gift Tjenestekarl Daler Sogn, Tønder Amt
Kirstine Gregersen 21 Ugift Tjenestepige [servant girl] Ho Sogn, Ribe Amt
Ribe, Vester Horne, Ho, Vesterballe, En Gaard, 44 F1, FT-1860, D5822
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Gregers Poulsen 49 Gift Gaardmand. Huusfader. Sognefoged Her i Sognet
Ane Kjerstine Christensen 42 Gift hans Kone Aal Ribe Amt
Helvig Cathrine Gregersen 13 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet
Poul Gregersen 11 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet
Christian Gregersen 7 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet
Ane Gregersen 4 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet
Morten Gregersen 2 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet
Søren Jepsen Gregersen 18 Ugift Huusfaderens Søn. Søfarende [mariner] Her i Sognet
Ribe, Vester Horne, Ho, Vesterballe By, en Gaard, 28 F1, FT-1845, B4553
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Gregers Poulsen 34 Gift Gaardmand Her i Sognet
Ane Kirstine Christensen 26 Gift hans Kone Hemmet, Ringkjøb:
Marie Gregersdatter 5 Ugift Mandens barn af 1.st ægteskab Her i Sognet
Kirstine Gregersdatter 6 Ugift Mandens barn af 1.st ægteskab Her i Sognet
Søren Jepsen Gregersen 3 Ugift Mandens barn af 1.st ægteskab Her i Sognet
Sidsel Christensdatter 21 Ugift Tjenestepige Oxbye Ribe Amt
Ribe, Vester Horne, Ho, Vesterballe, 10, Et Huus, 46, FT-1840, C7075
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Gregers Poulsen 29 Gift Gaardmand og Matros [farmer and sailor]
Helvig Sørensdatter 29 Gift Hans Kone
Kristine Gregersen 2 Ugift Deres Barn
Kristen Vestersen 21 Ugift Tjenestekarl
Søren Jepsen 57 Gift Sognefoged, Inderste og Aftægtsmand
Mette Kirstine Mortensdatter 59 Gift Hans Kone
Morten Sørensen 23 Ugift Deres Søn, Matros
Ribe, Vester Horne, Ho, Vesterballe, , 2. En Gaard, FT-1834, C2879
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Søren Jepsen 51 Gift Gaardmand og Sognefoged
Mette Kirstine Mortensdatter 53 Gift Hans kone
Sidzel Kirstine Sørensdatter 28 Ugift Deres datter og tjenestepige
Jeppe Sørensen 25 Ugift Deres søn, matros
Helvig Sørensdatter 23 Ugift Deres datter, Væverske
Morten Sørensen 17 Ugift Deres søn og Tjenestekarl
Ribe, Vester Horne, Ho, Vesterbredmose, , 1. En Gaard, FT-1834, C2879
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Bertel Friis Povelsen 29 Gift Gaardmand
Johanne Cathrine Nielsdatter 24 Gift Hans kone
Jens Cornelius Simonsen 16 Ugift Tjenestefolk
Karen Povelsdatter 37 Ugift Tjenestefolk
Kirsten Larsdatter 69 Enke Aftægtsnyder
Gregers Povelsen 23 Ugift Hendes søn, matros
Ribe, Ribe, Vester Vedsted (Kongerigsk) Vester Vedsted, 17. Et Huus, 17, FT-1860, D5178
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Hans Peder Lausen 39 Gift Rörmager Her i Sognet
Bothille Jensen 40 Gift Hans Kone Hvidding, Haderslev Amt
Laust Davidsen Hansen 14 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet
Mette Kirstine Hansen 12 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet
Ribe, Ribe, Vester Vedsted (Kongerigsk), Vester Vedsted, Et huus, 24, FT-1855, D8898
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Hans Peder Lauritsen 35 Gift Dagleier [day labourer]. huusfader Her i Sognet, Ribe Amt
Botille Jensen 35 Gift Hans kone Hvidding Sogn, Haderslev Amt
Laust Davidsen Hansen 10 Ugift Deres born Her i Sognet, Ribe Amt
Mette Kirstine Hansen 7 Ugift Deres born Her i Sognet, Ribe Amt
Anne Dorthea Hansen 1 Ugift Deres born Her i Sognet, Ribe Amt
Ribe, Ribe, Vester Vedsted (Kongerigsk), Vester Vedsted Bye, et Huus, 30, FT-1834, C7091
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Laust Andersen Sandholck 43 Gift Dagleier
Anne Michels 45 Gift hans Kone
Dorthea Laustdatter 15 Ugift deres Børn
Hans Peter Laustsen 13 Ugift deres Børn
Bachelor Laust Davidsen Hansen in Brede parish, 22 y, and maid Kirstine Gregersen in Vesterballe, 29 y, were married in Ho church 29 Dec. 1867:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123832#164132,27561631 - No 3
- witnesses/best men were Gregers Poulsen in Vesterballe, and Gregers Hansen in Nørballe.
Their daughter Hedevig Hansen was born 20 Jan. 1868 and baptized 9 Feb. 1868 in Ho church:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123832#164132,27561581 - No 1
- parents farmhand Laust Davidsen Hansen in Brede parish, and wife Kirstine Gregersen, 29 y, in Vesterballe.
- godmother Helvig Cathrine Gregersen, witnesses Gregers Poulsen, Poul Gregersen in Vesterballe, and Sidsel Kirstine Abelone Gregersen in Nørballe.
Laust Davidsen Hansen was born 7 Nov. 1845, and baptized 30 Nov. 1845 in Vester Vedsted church:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127932#171986,28874345 - No 6
Kirstine Gregersen was born 23 Sep. 1838, baptized at home 24 Sep., and presented in Ho church 21 Oct. 1838:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123832#164132,27561558 - No 3
Her confirmation 6 Mar. 1853 in Ho church:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123832#164132,27561609 - No 1
Cannot find Laust Davidsen Hansen's confirmation (to check the vaccination data in the marriage record).
For reference: https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Denmark_Genealogy
https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Danish_Word_List
https://www.dis-danmark.dk/kort/kort.htm - click Ribe
Ribe, Vester Horne, Ho, Almosetoft, 1 gaard, 66, FT-1870, D8115
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Gregers Poulsen 58 Gift Huusfader Gaardmand. jordbruger Ho Sogn, Ribe Amt
Ane Kjerstine Christensdatter 51 Gift Huusmoder Forsørges af huusfaderen Hemmeth Sogn, Ringkjøbing Amt
Helvig Cathrine Gregersen 22 Ugift Deres datter Forsørges af huusfaderen Ho Sogn, Ribe Amt
Christian Gregersen 16 Ugift Søn Forsørges af huusfaderen Ho Sogn, Ribe Amt
Ane Gregersen 13 Ugift Datter Forsørges af huusfaderen Ho Sogn, Ribe Amt
Morten Bregersen 11 Ugift Søn Forsørges af huusfaderen Ho Sogn, Ribe Amt
Niels Peder Gregersen 8 Ugift En slægtning Forsørges af huusfaderen Ho Sogn, Ribe Amt
Søren Jepsen 87 Enkemand [ikke oplyst] -
Poul Gregersen 20 Ugift Søn Søfarende [mariner] Ho Sogn, Ribe Amt
Best regards,
Inger Toudal
The 1870 census from Vester Vedsted:
Ribe, Ribe, Vester Vedsted, Vester Vedsted, Huus, 66, FT-1870, D8901
Navn: Alder: Status: Stilling i familien: Erhverv: Fødested:
Kjestine Hansen 31 Gift Husmoder Haandarbeide. Manden i Amerika (Husband in America) Ose Sogn, Ribe Amt
Hedevig Hansen 2 Ugift Datter Ose Sogn, Ribe Amt
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=53027#53027,11813647 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=53027#53027,11813647)
"Ose" is an error. The source says "Hoe"
It seems Gregers Poulsen died between 1 Feb. 1870 and 1 Feb. 1880:
Ribe, Øster Horne, Ølgod, Egknud, , 78, FT-1880, D3767
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Ane Kirstine Poulsen, f. Kristensen 62 Enke [widow] Husmoder, Lever af sin jordlod Hemmet Sogn, Ringkøbing Amt
Kildehenvisning: Tillægsliste A
Kommentarer: Egentlige opholdssted Ho Sogn, Ribe Amt
Ribe, Vester Horne, Ho, Vesterballe by, Hus, 9, FT-1890, D8117
Navn: Alder: Status: Stilling i familien: Erhverv: Fødested:
Ane Kirstine Poulsen 71 Enke Husmoder Aftægtskone Hemmet
Laust Davidsen Hansen's parents:
Ribe, Ribe, Vester Vedsted, Vester Vedsted, 1 hus, 24, FT-1870, D8901
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Hans Peder Lauridsen 48 Gift Husfader Rormager V. Vedsted, Ribe Amt
Botille Jensen 49 Gift Hans hustru Husmoder Slesvig
Ribe, Ribe, Vester Vedsted, Vester Vedsted By, Et Hus, 21, FT-1880, D3720
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Hans Peder Lausen 58 Enkemand [widower] Husfader, Arbejder i Agerbrug Vester Vedsted Sogn, Ribe Amt
Maren Nielsen 55 Enke Hans Husholderske Slesvig
Ribe, Ribe, Vester Vedsted, Vester Vedsted, -, 14, FT-1890, D8903
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Hans Peter Lausten 68 Enkemand Husfader Rormager V. Vedsted
Maren Nielsen 66 Enke - Husholder Slesvig
Best regards,
Inger
The immigration record, New York, July 5th 1870; "City of Brooklyn":
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5R2V-3?i=274&cc=1849782 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5R2V-3?i=274&cc=1849782)
Gregers Poulsen died December 29, 1879 - and this is from the probate court:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17054347#135644,33183722
Maybe someone can translate it better than I am able to :-\
I read this:
Et af afdøde Sognefoged i Ho Gregers Poulsen under 10. Oktober f. A. oprettet Testamente, hvorved han meddeler sin Hustru Ane Kirstine f. Christensen Tilladelse til at hensidde i uskiftet Bo efter sig med deres myndige og umyndige Fællesbørn, fremlagdes tilligemed Samtykke dertil fra Steddøtrene Kirstine og Marie Gregersen ved deres Mænd Laust Davidsen Hansen og Laurids Peder Nielsen Lundgaard, Sidstnævnte tillige som befuldmægtiget for Laust Davidsen Hansen, fra hvem Fuldmagt fremlagdes.
Gregers Poulsen left a will in which he gave his wife Ane Kirstine Christensen permission to retain undivided possession of the estate. The stepdaugthers Kirstine and Marie Gregersen agreed, by their husbands Laust Davidsen Hansen and Laurids Peder Nielsen Lundgaard, the latter was authorized to act for Laust Davidsen Hansen, from which a written authority was on view.
There's a description of the farm Gammeltoft in Vesterballe village, Ho parish, here:
http://vardesyssel.dk/aarboeger/Aarbog2007.pdf (page 96 - 98)
It had belonged to Helvig Sørensdatter's parents 1811 - 1837, and before them to her paternal grandparents.
In 1837, Gregers Poulsen bought the farm from his father-in-law.
Ribe, Vester Horne, Ho, Vesterballe Bye, -, 45, FT-1801, b9009
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Zidzel Michels Datter 48 Enke Huusmoder Bonde, Enke og Gaardbeboer
Anna Jeppes Datter 24 Ugift Hendes Børn tiener Moderen
Stina Jeppes Datter 22 Ugift Hendes Børn tiener Moderen
Søren Jepsen 18 Ugift Hendes Børn farer til Søes for Matros.
Mette Jeppes Datter 13 - Hendes Børn -
Chatrina Jeppes Dat: 10 - Hendes Børn -
Kirsten Jeppes Datter 7 - Hendes Børn -
Ribe, Vester Horne, Ho, Westerballe Bye, , 1, FT-1787, B4960
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Jeppe Sørensen 59 Gift Huusfader Nærer sig af sin bondegaard.
Sidsel Michelsdatter 33 Gift Huusmoder
Anna Jeppesdatter 11 Ugift Deres ægte Børn [Jeppe Sørensen og Sidsel Michelsdatter]
Mette Jeppesdatter 10 Ugift Deres ægte Børn [Jeppe Sørensen og Sidsel Michelsdatter]
Anna Kirstine Jeppesdatter 9 Ugift Deres ægte Børn [Jeppe Sørensen og Sidsel Michelsdatter]
Michaëline Jeppesdatter 7 Ugift Deres ægte Børn [Jeppe Sørensen og Sidsel Michelsdatter]
Søren Jepsen 5 Ugift Deres ægte Børn [Jeppe Sørensen og Sidsel Michelsdatter]
Niels Jepsen 3 Ugift Deres ægte Børn [Jeppe Sørensen og Sidsel Michelsdatter]
Mette Lasdatter 66 Enke(mand) Konens Moder i Huuset [Sidsel Michelsdatter] faar Ophold af Stæden.
Best regards,
Inger
This is so exciting. It would appear that you have found them. I never thought I would know who they were. I thank you also for all the reference data. I will now spend some time trying to translate and add the information to my tree.
Many, Many Thanks
Ann Thorsen
Hi Ann
I just found extra informations in a newspaper (Berlingske Tidende) from 26th July 1913 (3rd column):
http://www2.statsbiblioteket.dk/mediestream/avis/record/doms_aviser_page%3Auuid%3A45c3de24-da15-4054-b280-027b3fbcb10d/query/%22s%C3%B8ren%20jepsen%20gregersen%22
Kirstine Gregersen and her brother Søren Jepsen Gregersen are mentioned. It is about the inheritance after their mother who died in 1843. It says that the children a long time ago have got their inheritance and have signed for it but the receipts have disappeared. That is a problem for the new owner of the family farm because the case can't be deleted from the book of mortgages (pantebogen) without the receipts. It is unknown where Kirstine and Søren are living and the authorities have not been able to find out about it. In the writ they are summoned to meet in the court. The last known adress of Søren is Ho. Nothing about Kirstine's last adress is mentioned.
Well, Kirstine probably didn't read this newspaper but the formalities had to be followed :)
It says that Kirstine's inheritance from her mother was, in money: 77 rigsbankdaler, 11 skilling. And when she was 18 she would as a present from her father get bed clothes, certain articles of clothing and a chest of drawers.
A man called Søren Jepsen Gregersen (1891-1971) is buried at the cemetary in Ho. He is probably a relative, named after Kirstine's mariner brother:
http://sepper.dk/ho/ho_svar_soeg.php
Regards, Henrik
I thank you so much for the info. I am still putting all the info into my tree in Ancestry. It is overwhelming and exciting.
Ann Thorsen
Spent the day entering data. It was confusing at first but it all fell into place. The data you sent is more than I could have ever expected. I feel like a piece of my life is complete.
On the will it says that you can "view" the consent of L. Davidsen Nelsen. Is that available to see.
I saw that a Gregers Poulsen came to the US in 1871. The age fits but I do not know if it is the same person. I am thinking that as he was aging he wanted to make sure that his current wife and children would not have any problem with the estate. He may have brought a contract for Christine to sign along with a cash payment for her signing off on any inheritance. Just speculation. The consent form would show the dates.
I have sent your info to my cousins and we are all grateful for your help. It has been a puzzle for me for 4 years and I would never have found them.
I need to translate the book pages but other than that I was able to translate via the link you sent me. Again, more than I would have ever thought would be found and am grateful for the help.
Ann Thorsen
Hi Ann
A bit more for you on the family of Louis (or Laust):
Botilde Jensen dies on Nov 25th 1877:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171987#171987,28874552 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171987#171987,28874552)
Botilde Jensen, smallholder Hans Peder Laugesens Hustru of Vester Vedsted. Born i Hviding Sogn.
Father: Jens Laugesen Jensen. Age 57.
Botilde was born on Oct 24th 1820 in Hviding.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=201762#201762,38241504 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=201762#201762,38241504)
Bothelle. Father Jens Lauritzen Jessen and wife Mette Kirstine Thomasdatter in Raahede.
Hans Peder Laustsen dies on Jan 23rd 1900 in Vester Vedsted:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171992#171992,28875224 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171992#171992,28875224)
Hans Peder Laustsen
Widower in Vester Vedsted. Born in Vester Vedsted. Parents Laust Andersen Sandholdt and wife Anne Michels Christensdatter. Age 78.
Hans Peder’s was born on Oct 17th 1821 in Vester Vedsted:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171985#171985,28874219 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171985#171985,28874219)
Parents: Laust Andersen Sandholdt, Anne Michels Chrestensdatter.
Hans Peder’s and Bolette’s marriage on July 18th 1845 In Hviding:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=201764#201764,38241782 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=201764#201764,38241782)
Ungkarl Hans Peter Sandholt, 24 aar gammel af bondestand, tjenende i Øster Vedsted i Ribe Domsogn
Pige Bothelle Jensdatter, 24 aar gammel af bondestand i Raahede.
Witness: Gaardmand i Raahede Jens Lauritzen Jessen og kromand i Höxbroe Hans Schulz.
Hans Peder’s father, Laust Andersen Sandholdt dies Jan 30th 1837 in Vester Vedsted:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171986#171986,28874444 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171986#171986,28874444)
Laust Andersen Sandholdt, Hjuulmand in Vester Vedsted. Age 45.
I think this is Laust Andersen Sandholdt’s baptism in the church record:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171980#171980,28873906 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171980#171980,28873906)
On February 20th [1792] in the Morning at 6 am a son was born to Niels Davidsen and Anne LauritsDatter in Vester Vedsted. The day after he was baptized of the vicar Christian Hansen and given the name Lauritz Andersen Sandholt..
Witnesses were
Lauritz Michelsen
Anders Michelsen from Enderup
Hans Pedersen
Anne Marie, the wife of Christian Hansen
Hans Peder’s mother, Anne Michels dies on Jan 3rd 1847 in Vester Vedsted:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171987#171987,28874523 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171987#171987,28874523)
I don’t think the fathers name is corrects. Here is Anne Michels in the census 1801:
Ribe, Ribe, Vester Vedsted (Kongerigsk), Vester Vedsted by, , 33, FT-1801, B9205
Navn: Alder: Status: Stilling i familien: Erhverv: Fødested:
Christen Michelsen 47 Gift Husbonde Bonde og gårdbeboer
Dorthe Clemmensdatter 45 Gift Hans kone
Marie Christensdatter 19 Ugift Deres barn
Maren Clemmens Christensdatter 17 Ugift Deres barn
Anna Michels Christensdatter 10 Ugift Deres barn
Hans Christensen 8 Ugift Deres barn
Jannich Jannichsen 19 Ugift Tjenestekarl
Annabolette Jensdatter 27 Ugift Hos husbonde, opholdende Væver
And here is her birth in Vester Vedsted:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171980#171980,28873903 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171980#171980,28873903)
On Jan 6th [1791] in the morning at 10 am was a daughter born to Christen Michelsen and Dorethe ClemensDatter in Vester Vedsted. She was baptized Dom. 1past Epiphan. With the name Anne Michels.
Witness were
Jens Hansen Jepsen
Niels Nielsen
Hans Andersen.
/Ellen
Gregers Poulsen who came to the US in 1871 is probably this man from Aalborg county:
Navn: Paulsen, Gregers Stilling: Landmand
Alder: 59 Bestemmelsessted: Webster
Kontrakt nr.: 152000 Forevisningsdato: 10-05-1871
Fødesogn: ?
Sidste oph.sogn: Nørresundby Sidste oph. amt: Aalborg
Sidste oph.sted: N. Sundby Bestemmelses land: USA
Bestemmelses by: Webster Bestemmelses stat: ?
Skibsnavn: Indirekte
IDkode: I7172P0512
- source: http://www.udvandrerarkivet.dk/udvandrerprotokollerne/
The document with authorization from Laust Davidsen Hansen to Laurids Peder Nielsen Lundgaard to act on his behalf was presented in court.
It's not clear what happened to the document afterwards.
Best regards,
Inger
Parents and siblings of Gregers Poulsen:
https://www.myheritage.com/family-1_1000536_136363581_136363581/gregersen-poul-gregersen-anne-marie-gregersen-fodt-bertelsen
He died 18 Dec. and was buried 29 Dec. 1879: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123832#164133,27561817 - No 4
His birth record: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123828#164130,27561406 - left page (baptized 10 Mar. 1811)
- Helvig Sørensdatter's birth record is on the right page (baptized 17 Mar. 1811).
She died 21 Feb. and was buried 2 Mar. 1843: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123832#164132,27561687 - No 1
Ribe, Vester Horne, Ho, Vester Bremose Bye, -, 54, FT-1801, b9009
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Paul Gregersen 43 Gift Huus Bonde Bonde og Gaardbeboer
Anna Maria Berthels Datter 28 Gift Hans Kone -
Anna Povels Datter 5 - Deres Børn -
Karen Povels Datter 2 - Deres Børn -
There must be an error in the 1834 census. Kirsten Larsdatter, 69 y, is not Gregers Poulsen's mother. His mother is here, living with his older brother:
Ribe, Vester Horne, Ho, Vesterbredning, 2, En Gaard, 51, FT-1840, C7075
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Bertel Friis Poulsen 35 Gift Gaardmand
Johanne Cathrine Nielsdatter 30 Gift Hans Kone
Povel Friis Bertelsen 5 Ugift Deres Børn
Marie Cathrine Bertelsen 3 Ugift Deres Børn
Niels Bertelsen 1 Ugift Deres Børn
Hanne Nielsdatter 26 Ugift Tjenestepige
Ane Marie Bertelsdatter 68 Enke Inderste og Aftægtskone
Ribe, Vester Horne, Ho, Vesterbredmose, en Gaard, 47, FT-1845, B4553
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Berthel Poulsen 40 Gift Gaardmand Her i Sognet
Johanne Nielsdatter 35 Gift hans Kone Oxbye Ribe Amt
Poul Berthelsen 10 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet
Marie Cath: Berthelsdatter 8 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet
Niesl Berthelsen 6 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet
Jens Cornelius Berthelsen 3 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet
Ane Sørensdatter 25 Ugift Tjenestepige Her i Sognet
Ane Marie Berthelsdatter 74 Enke huusfaderens Moder der af ham forsørges Oxbye Ribe Amt
Best regards,
Inger
Mette Kirstine Thomasdatter, see this homepage:
http://troelswinther.dk/getperson.php?personID=I20270&tree=TW1
This homepage is very trustworthy.
If you have the right match here - and your family is going back to Troels Winther - I'm sure that Svend Jacobsen and Hans-Ole Mørk will be very happy to get your family members names and dates.
Greetings
Christian
Citat fra: Ann Thorsen [55631] Dato 04 Aug 2017 - 03:26
On the will it says that you can "view" the consent of L. Davidsen Nelsen. Is that available to see
Perhaps the document can be found in this package of documents from the probate court:
https://www.sa.dk/daisy/arkivserie_detaljer?a=%C3%B8ster-vester+horne&b=skifte&c=&d=1&e=2017&f=&g=&h=&ngid=&ngnid=&heid=9711257&henid=9711257&epid=&faid=&meid=&m2rid=&side=&sort=&dir=&gsc=&int=&ep=&es=&ed=
But it is not scanned so it is necessary to go to the archives to se it.
I finally have all the data entered into my tree. It is so fantastic to see all of this. I still need to go back and double check my work and add resources to my tree.
Ann Thorsen
Citat fra: Ann Thorsen [55631] Dato 05 Aug 2017 - 17:09
I finally have all the data entered into my tree. It is so fantastic to see all of this. I still need to go back and double check my work and add resources to my tree.
Ann Thorsen
Hi Ann
Once you have checked, please include a list of all your ancestors here in Denmark from Louis (Laust) Davidson Dec. 7 1844 Denmark and Christine Gregersen June 1837.
Then we can try to check another time here in Denmark - especially a possible line to Troels Winther, born around year 1425.
But - your Laust Davidsen seems to be born December 7, 1844, and the Laust Davidsen Hansen is born November 7, 1845, Vester Vedsted, opslag 27.
Perhaps he has tried to hide his correct identity - or something else has happened.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=171986#171986,28874345
http://troelswinther.dk/getperson.php?personID=I45066&tree=TW1
Greetings
Christian
There is some information about Gregers Poulsen et al. on pages 96-98 of Vardesyssel Aarbog 2007 by Gert Ravn.
vardesyssel.dk/Aarbog%202007web.doc (http://vardesyssel.dk/Aarbog%202007web.doc)
Lisa Petersen
near Washington, D.C.
Hi Ann
If you don't read Danish - the pages in the document Lisa is Refering to is about the farm 'Gammeltoft', owned by Gregers Poulsen and Helvig Sørensdatter.
In one of the notes, there is a listing of Gregers Poulsen's children:
6. Børn af hans 1. ægteskab med Helvig Sørensdatter død 1843 er: Kirstine Gregersen født her 23.9.1838 og gift her 29.12.1867 med ungkarl Laust Davidsen Hansen fra Brede sogn. - Marie Gregersen født her 8.1.1841. - Søren Jepsen Gregersen født her 25.10.1842. – Børn af hans 2. ægteskab med Ane Christine Christensdatter Graungaard er: Helvig Gregersen 1846-1847. - Helvig Cathrine Gregersen født her 1.11.1847, og gift her 11.12.1873 med ungkarl og styrmand Andreas Nielsen i Sønderballe. - Poul Gregersen født her 28.5.1849, - Ane Gregersen 1851-1852. - Christian Gregersen født her 16.5.1853, ungkarl og styrmand gift her 28.11.1878 med Ane Nielsen født Nørreballe 16.10.1852, bosat i Sønderballe. - Ane Gregersen født her 17.5.1856. - Morten Sørensen Gregersen 1855-1855. – Morten Gregersen født her 19.12.1858, ungkarl og styrmand gift her 23.10.1887 med Ingeborg Marie Lorentzen af Sønderside. – Niels Peder Gregersen født her 10.12.1861.
Children of Gregers Poulsen's 1st marriage with Helvig Sørensdatter (dead 1843)
1) Kirstien Gregersen born Sep 23 1838, married Dec 29th 1867 to Laust Davidsen Hansen
2) Marie Gregersen born Jan 8th 1841
3) Søren Jepsen Gregersen, born Oct 25th 1842
Children of Gregers Poulsen's 2nd marriage with Ane Christine Graungaard
1) Helvig Gregersen 1846-1847
2) Helvig Cathrine Gregersen born Nov 1st 1847, married Dec 11th 1873 with Andreas Nielsen in Sønderballe
3) Poul Gregersen Born May 28th 1849
4) Ane Gregersen 1841-1852
5) Christian Gregersen born May 16th 1853 married Nov 28th 1878 to Ane Nielsen born in Nørreballe Oct 16th 1852
6) Ane Gregersen born May 17th 1856
7) Morten Sørensen Gregersen 1855-1855
8. Morten Gregersen born Dec 19th 1858, married Oct 23rd 1887 to Ingeborg Marie Lorentzen from Sønderside
9) Niels Peder Gregersen born Dec 10th 1861
/Ellen
I am satisfied that Laust, born 1845, is our man. Everything fits. Thank you for interest.
I looked at the Troels info and it appears to be the same family. Since I cannot read Danish I could only see the Davidsen Hansen connection.
Ann Thorsen
Hi Ann
I would suggest that you send a descendant list from your system to Svend Jacobsen - he will thank you many times for this and he will then put it on the Troels Winther website. The site includes 14 generations after Troels Winther - but Svend has also begun to insert the 15th generation, for survivors only include birth data.
The descendant of Laust Davidsen Hansen and Christene Gregersen - married Dec 29th 1867.
http://troelswinther.dk/getperson.php?personID=I45075&tree=TW1
The email of Svend Jacobsen is: scjac42@gmail.dk
For your information: Svend has been researching for 50 years - and has researched Troels Winther since the 1980s, a work that his good friend Hans-Ole Mørk participates in. And the result of this very big work can be seen on the website.
As previously stated, the information on the website is very credible and you can put the information into your system directly from the website.
And so - you are within the 15th generation of Troels Winther in family with my wife and unbelievably many other Danes 8)
Greetings
Christian
My computer does not show it as a safe website. Sorry.
Ann
Hi Ann
My security system - Bullguard - shows that it's safe. And I have not heard that other people in Denmark have had problems with this website.
Then - try through one of your friends or acquaintances.
http://troelswinther.dk/
Greetings
Christian
Thank you for the translations of the farm. It was most helpful.
Soren Jepsen Gregerson, born 1842, died at sea. Is there any possibility of finding Soren or Poul Gregersen, born 1849, who also died at sea. Poul was listed in the 1870 census.
Thanks,
Ann
Citat fra: Ann Thorsen [55631] Dato 06 Aug 2017 - 23:03
My computer does not show it as a safe website. Sorry.
Ann
Hi Ann
If you wish, I can send you a pdf list with ancestors to your Laust Davidsen Hansen and back to Troels Winther. - Within 2 weeks.
Do you want it or do you by your self go in and take your data from the Troels Winther website?
Greetings
Christian
I would appreciate that. Thank you.
Because my computer has been hacked in the past, my son would have a fit if I went on a site that did not have the security lock.
Ann
OK - no problem, within 2 weeks.
Greetings
Christian
Citat fra: Christian Konstmann Autzen [733] Dato 09 Aug 2017 - 09:59
OK - no problem, within 2 weeks.
Greetings
Christian
Hi Ann
I have just send you by email the pdf file - with ancestors of Laust Davidsen Hansen, back to Troels Winther and his wife Mette. I had a lot of these data allready.
And - when you have got all the decendants (what you know of) of Laust Davidsen Hansen in the US, please send a pdf file with all these to Svend Jacobsen; he will then put these into the homepages - up til 14th/15th generation, still living only with date of birth - unless you don't want that for still living people.
Greetings
Christian
That Google translate took me a while to figure out but a great tool. You give me too much credit for my computer knowledge. I am barely literate. I tried to scan the pages 96-98 into the translate but it did not work. Is there a way to do that? When you say "download and send a PDF file, I have to clue as to how this is accomplished.
The history is very impressive and reading it in English is great. Thank you for the computer lesson.
Ann Thorsen
I figured out how to get the book transcribed and copies the pages I needed. A miracle for me to accomplish.
Ann
Hi Ann
As you can't by your self go into the homepage http://troelswinther.dk/ here are some dokuments from the homepage for your interest. They are showing the big work, that Svend Jacobsen has done to provide us all with this person, Troels Winther, and his discendants - our family.
http://troelswinther.dk/histories/14%20generationer%20-%20indledning.pdf
http://troelswinther.dk/histories/Information%20til%20tavlen.pdf
http://troelswinther.dk/histories/Artikel,%20del%201.pdf
If you got problems with your computer or how to do what, may be your son are able to help you
Best wishes from Denmark :D
Christian
I want to thank each of you, Ellen, Inger, Karsten, Judith, Henrik, Christian and Lisa. You have done a tremendous amount of work for me and I appreciate each and every post. I have copied the data you sent and have put them into a permanent file for my family. It is more than I could ever expect that you could accomplish. Of all the unanswered questions we had, you provided me with all I could ever had hoped for. Someday, maybe we will find where Laust and Christine got the money from. They said a brother that died at sea and it could be either Soren Jepsen Gregersen or Poul Gregersen as both died at sea.
If I can ever help you with any research in the United States, thru Ancestry, I would be more than willing to try to assist. I am not as computer literate as you folks are, but I will sure try.
Many, many thanks,
Ann Thorsen