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Titel: Translation help please and why is the marriage scratched out?
Indlæg af: Lizz Denis Dato 13 Mar 2017 - 04:38
Can I get a translation of this marriage please: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17114369#148766,24589042
Ancestry.com refers to this marriage between Karen Jacobsdatter and Peder Nielsen on 11 August, 1839 in Barse, Praesto, Denmark - when I look at archiveronline above, the marriage appears to be crossed out.   When I go thru the church records at: http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=205314&side=19, I don't see the marriage at all.  Many thanks.



Titel: Sv: Translation help please and why is the marriage scratched out?
Indlæg af: Inger Toudal Dato 13 Mar 2017 - 08:46

You find the same record in the Hovedministerialbog for Baarse parish (your 2nd reference is to Præstø parish in Baarse distict):

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17223610#203370,38569581 - top

In the remark it's noted that the marriage is recorded in Udbye parish [Præstø county], where the bride was living until shortly before the marriage.
The wedding ceremony, however, took place in Baarse church, but was perfomed by the priest in Udby parish.

It's recorded in the Hovedministerialbog for Udby parish:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17224923#206394,39182066 - NB

- but not in the Kontraministerialbog: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119433#158112,26550832

Best regards,
Inger Toudal
Titel: Sv: Translation help please and why is the marriage scratched out?
Indlæg af: Ralph Rasmussen Dato 24 Mar 2017 - 02:53
From the Bårse register, although now treated as a duplicate:

Bachelor Peder Nielsen, employed in Steppinge?, aged 27.  Son of the late 'gaardmand' Niels Pedersen Ribe in Bårse.

xxxx floozy Karen Jacobsdatter, aged 23 in Bårse, to which she has [moved]

Guarantors: the bride's brother, bachelor Peder Jacobsen, lodging with his mother, xxx and widow Sidse? Hansdatter in Grumløse and 'gaardmand'  Jegers? Larsen i Bårse

Affirmed with initials, names then filled in.

The bride's mother can probably be checked against the 1834 census.
Titel: Sv: Translation help please and why is the marriage scratched out?
Indlæg af: Inger Toudal Dato 24 Mar 2017 - 08:35

The groom is employed in Faxinge [Faksinge]. In the Udby church book he is recorded as widower, vaccinated 26 Aug. 1812.
The bride is unmarried, living in Grumløse, vaccinated 11 Nov. 1813.
The guarantors are Ingvor Larsen in Baarse and Peder Jacobsen in Grumløse.

Præstø, Baarse, Baarse, Baarse Bÿe, nr. 47, et hus, 68. fam., FT-1845, B5334
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:      Birth place:
Peder Nielsen     32     Gift            husmand, daglejer      her i sognet, Bårse 
Karen Jacobsdatter     35     Gift            hans kone      Beldringe, Præstø amt
 
Kirsten Pedersdatter     6     Ugift            deres datter      her i sognet, Bårse 
Lisbeth Pedersen     3     Ugift            deres datter      her i sognet, Bårse

Præstø, Baarse, Baarse, Baarse Bye, nr. 45, et hus, 63. fam., FT-1840, B4536
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     
Peder Nielsen     27     Gift            daglejer        
Karen Jacobs Datter     30     Gift            hans kone
       
Kirsten Peders Datter     1     Ugift            deres datter        
Ane Cathrine Niels Datter     15     Ugift            mandens søster

Præstø, Baarse, Baarse, Faxinge, husmand, 54. fam., FT-1834, B2153
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:
Niels Pedersen     50     Enke(mand)            husmand og arbejdsmand        
Kirsten Niels Datter     20     Ugift            hans datter        
Anna Cathrine Niels Datter     9     Ugift            hans datter

Præstø, Baarse, Udby, Grumlöse Bÿe, husmand, 59. fam., FT-1834, B3559
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:
Sidse Hans Datter     53     Enke(mand)            husmandsenke, lever af sin jordlod        
Peder Jakobsen     23     Ugift            hendes børn        
Karen Jakobs Datter     28     Ugift            hendes børn  

Best regards,
Inger