I would greatly appreciate help in locating information about my ancestor Peter Kino (spelling?) Knudsen. I found in his records that he was born in Horsens (?) on April 19 1863. He came to America in 1883 and married Jensina Olsen in 1890 in Helena, Montana, USA. I have been told he had one brother who was a member of the palace guards who did not leave Denmark. In stories of the family he is referred to as Papa Tune (spelling?) and his Sena as Mama Tune. I believe his wife Sena was from Norway, but I would love to know the names of his parents and brother.
Thank you and god bless.
Kirsten Knudsen
Skanderborg, Nim, Underup, Underup By, , Et Hus, 25, FT-1880
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Jens Peter Knudsen 47 Gift Huseier, Møllebygger Aale Sogn, Skanderborg Amt
Ane Margrethe Kristensen 46 Gift hans Kone Her i Sognet [ Underup]
Knud Kristian Knudsen 22 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet [ Underup]
Peter Kingo Knudsen 16 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet [ Underup]
Mikkel Knudsen 12 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet [ Underup]
Ane Mette Knudsen 10 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet [ Underup]
Frederikke Kristiane Knudsen 7 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet [ Underup]
Ellen Kjerstine Knudsen 19 Ugift Møllebygger Jens P. Knudsens Datter !! Underup Sogn
His birth record can be found 1851-1875 Underup, Nim, Skanderborg ops 34. Born on Apr 16, 1863 and christened Aug 23.
Hi Kirsten,
I think it could be this family:
Skanderborg, Nim, Underup, Underup By, Et Hus, 25, FT-1880, D3774
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Jens Peter Knudsen 47 Gift Huseier, Møllebygger Aale Sogn, Skanderborg Amt
Ane Margrethe Kristensen 46 Gift hans Kone Her i Sognet [ Underup]
Knud Kristian Knudsen 22 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet [ Underup]
Peter Kingo Knudsen 16 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet [ Underup]
Mikkel Knudsen 12 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet [ Underup]
Ane Mette Knudsen 10 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet [ Underup]
Frederikke Kristiane Knudsen 7 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet [ Underup]
Ellen Kjerstine Knudsen 19 Ugift Møllebygger Jens P. Knudsens Datter !! Underup Sogn
The info is from the transcribed censuses at http://ddd.dda.dk/ddd_en.htm.
In Denmark, there are two parishes (da sogn) called Horsens, one in Aalborg (Ålborg) county (da amt), and one in Skanderborg amt. Please refer to this map of the counties (da amt) http://www.dis-danmark.dk/kort/kort.htm. Click Skanderborg, and you'll see that Underup sogn is in the same district (da herred) as Horsens - Nim Herred. Horsens was the closest town, so that's probably why Peter has given Horsens as his birth place.
His birth record 16 April 1863 can be found in the church records at ArkivalierOnline http://www.sa.dk/ao/.
- Amt: Skanderborg, Herred: Nim, Sogn: Underup, 1851-1875, opslag 34, # 4.
Emigration info for Peter Kingo Knudsen found at
http://www.aalborgkommune.dk/borgerportal/applikationer/udvandrer/SoegpostEngelsk.asp (just type Name Kingo):
ID Code V7984A3377
Last place of residence ?
Date of registration 03-04-1883 [3 April 1883]
Name Knudsen, Peter Kingo
Parish Nørup
Contract No. 164
Occupation
County Vejle
Contract litra MouritzenC
Residence contract Nørup
Remarks
It seems that at the time of his emigration Peter lived in Nørup parish, Tørrild district, Vejle county.
For info about Danish genealogy, use e.g. this site https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Denmark.
Best regards,
Inger Toudal
It requires more research but this passenger list from ancestry.com could be your Peter:
Hamburger Passagierlisten, 1850-1934 Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934 about Peter Knudsen
Name: Peter Knudsen
Departure Date: 8 Apr 1883
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Age Year: 21
Gender: männlich (Male)
Family: Household members
Residence: Undrup, Dänemark
Occupation: Landmann
Ship Name: Suevia
Captain: Franzen
Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft
Ship Type: Dampfschiff
Accommodation: Zwischendeck
Ship Flag: Deutschland
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: New York
The parents' marriage is in the Underup 1847-1874 parish register, 'opslag' 7 - 1857 #5. In this case the marriages are in a separate book from the other record types.
Marriages took place in the bride's parish, with rare exception.
The earliest records listing the birth parish are the 1845 census. Of course there are occasional errors in naming that birth parish.
I think it's the right Peter Knudsen in the passenger list from ancestry.com.
Peter Kingo Knudsen registered for emigration with the police in Vejle 3 Apr 1883 (see my former posting).
Quotation from the link:
The emigration records from Vejle hold information about 4.109 emigrants from the whole of Denmark from 1879 to 1887. These emigrants have bought their tickets from two emigrant agents in Vejle, the Mouritzen Brothers, who represented HAPAG (the Hamburg-America Line).
Best regards,
Inger T.
I believe this is the father's family in 1834.
Skanderborg, Vrads, Aale, Aale Bye, , et Huus, 31, FT-1834
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Knud Christian Pedersen 45 Gift Tømmermand (carpenter)
Ane Kirstine Jensdatter 38 Gift hans Kone
Mette Kirstine Knudsdatter 15 Ugift deres Børn
Frederike Knudsdatter 13 Ugift deres Børn
Jens Peter Knudsen 2 Ugift deres Børn
Hans Knudsen 32 Gift Tømmermand
Bodil Christiansdatter 33 Gift hans Kone
Peder Christian Henriksen 10 Ugift deres Børn
Ane Katrine Hensdatter 2 Ugift deres Børn
Peter Kingo Knudsen's mother, Ane Margrethe Christensdatter
Skanderborg, Voer, Østbirk, Purup, et Hus, 144, FT-1860, D5183
Jens Peter Knudsen 28 Gift Indsidder. Tømmermand. Husfader Aale Sogn Her i Amtet
Anwe Margrete Christensdatter 27 Gift hans Kone Underup Sogn Her i Amtet
Knud Christian Knudsen 3 Ugift deres Søn Underup Sogn Her i Amtet
Skanderborg, Nim, Underup, Underup Mark, Gaard, 30, FT-1845, B7657
Christen Hansen 65 Gift Gaardmand Tamdrup sogn, Skanderborg amt
Ellen Laursdatter 36 Gift Hans kone Nykirke sogn, Vejle amt
Laurs Christensen 13 Ugift Deres barn Her i sognet
Ane Margrethe Christensdatter 12 Ugift Deres barn Her i sognet
Christen Christensen 10 Ugift Deres barn Her i sognet
Laursine Christensen 7 Ugift Deres barn Her i sognet
Peter Kingo Christensen 5 Ugift Deres barn Her i sognet
Ane Christensen 2 Ugift Deres barn Her i sognet
Ane Margrethe is not listed with her family in 1840 (on the ddd.dda.dk transcription).
Skanderborg, Nim, Underup, Underup, en Gaard, 8, FT-1840, C6533
Christen Hansen 62 Gift Gaardmand
Ellen Larsdatter 34 Gift hans Kone
Lars Christensen 9 Ugift deres Børn
Christen Christensen 5 Ugift deres Børn
Larsine Christensen 2 Ugift deres Børn
Skanderborg, Nim, Underup, Underup Mk:, en Gaard, 6, FT-1834, C4978
Christen Hansen 51 Gift Gaardmand [born about 1783]
Ellen Lauersdatter 26 Gift hans Kone
Inger Maria Christensdatter 14 Ugift deres Børn
Maren Christensdatter 11 Ugift deres Børn
Ane Christensdatter 5 Ugift deres Børn
Lauers Christensen 3 Ugift deres Børn
Ane Margrethe Christensen 1 Ugift deres Børn
Christen Hansen's father could be Hans Sørensen, Bonde and gaardbeboer in Bemelte Wrønding Bye, Vrønding, Tamdrup Sogn, Nim, Skanderborg in 1787 census that shows son Christen Hansen born about 1781. Christen, his birth family, and death of "Christen Hansen of Underup Mark" 20 February 1848 appear on this family tree (so maybe the tree creator is a cousin!) ;)
http://www.milloup.dk/hvh/hhtdbs/getperson.php?personID=I11542&tree=hht
Peter Kingo Knudsen's father's family:
Skanderborg, Vrads, Aale, Aale Bye, et Huus, 30, FT-1840, C6524
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Bodil Christiansdatter 40 Gift Huuskone, hendes Mand har som Tyende taget Bopæl udensogns
Ane Catrine Hansdatter 8 Ugift deres Børn
Kirsten Marie Hansdatter 4 Ugift deres Børn
Ane Kirstine Jensdatter 45 Gift Huuskone, hendes Mand har som Tyende taget Bopæl udensogns *
Jens Peter Knudsen 8 Ugift deres Børn
Mette Kirstine Knudsdatter 5 Ugift deres Børn
* [her husband is working as a servant in another parish where he has his residence]
In 1845 Jens Peter Knudsen has already left home:
Skanderborg, Vrads, Aale, Aale bye, Et huus, 29.2, FT-1845, C0957
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Knud Chr Pedersen 59 Gift Tømmermand og medeier af huset Heri sognet [in this parish]
Anne Kirstine Jensdatter 50 Gift Hans kone Feuling Skanderborg amt [Føvling]
Mette Kirstine Knudsdatter 10 Ugift Deres datter Heri sognet
His mother dies before 1850:
Skanderborg, Vrads, Aale, Aale By, et Huus, 33, F2, FT-1850, C9106
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Knud Pedersen 62 Enkemand [widower] Tømmermand, Medeier af Huset Her i Sognet [ Aale]
Jørgen Pedersen 29 Gift Muurmester, Indsidder Greis Sogn, Weile Amt
Frederikke Knudsdatter 29 Gift hans Kone Her i Sognet [ Aale]
Best regards,
Inger T.
This is wonderful! I am so greatful that you have taken the time to help. I was so lost in the parish records.
Thank you greatly!
Kirsten
So fun to watch the team find your family in Denmark.
Inger I like your color-coded transcriptions.
Peter Kingo Knudsen's mormor Ellen Laursdatter, in her remarriage to Mikkel Sørensen after Christen Hansen died:
1850
Underup Mark, Underup Sogn, Nim Herred, Skanderborg Amt, Danmark
Underup Gård, 32
Mikkel Sørensen 50 Gift Gårdmand husfader Tanderup sogn, Skanderborg amt
Ellen Laursdatter 43 Gift Hans kone Nykirke sogn, Veile amt
Christen Christensen 14 Ugift Husfaders stedbarn Her i sognet
Peter Kingo Christensen 9 Ugift Husfaders stedbarn Her i sognet
Laursine Christensen 13 Ugift Husfaders stedbarn Her i sognet
Maria Christensen 3 Ugift Husfaders stedbarn Her i sognet
Below is a discussion of Ellen Laursdatter on DIS-Danmark in 2007, seeking her parents, LINK:
http://www.dis-danmark.dk/forum/read.php?1,359967,359998
Confirmation Record, churchbook Øster Nykirke, Nørvang, Vejle 1815-1830, opslag 51:
Ellen Lausdatter in Vange, confirmed in 1823 at Øster Nykirke, 14 years old, baptized 16 July 1808 in Øster Nykirke. In this confirmation record her parents are given as stepfather Peder Madsen (occupation gaardmand) and Ane Margrethe Pedersdatter. In her baptismal record her parents are named as Lars/Laus Jensen and Ane Margrethe Pedersdatter.