Any ideas for finding Jensine Christine in parish records?
this is a record I found with some birth information. However I have not been able to find her parish record in Flade.
I also looked in Åsted and Fredrikshavn other places listed as her birth on death record and places I've found her family in censuses
CitatRedmond Utah LDS ward records:
Jensine Christine Willardsen (Willardsen is her married name in the U.S.)
record No. 505 Name in Full: Jensine Kristine Willardsen Sex: F Father's Name: Jens Christensen Mother's Maiden Name: Anna Thompson Born at Flade Denmark 27 Sept 1861
Her headstone says 1862
Perhaps the birth of your Jensine Kirstine Jensen. https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17126020#168383,28275018
and here she is in the 1870 census.
All information on selected person
Year: FT-1870 Source reference: Side 672
Cadastre/Address: -
Household No: 60
Name: Jensine Kristine Jensen Gender: K
Age: 9 Civil status: Ugift
Birth place: Sæbye
Position in household: Plejebarn
Parish: Skæve District: Dronninglund
Shire: Hjørring Place name: Lykkeholms Mølle
Source entry No: D7544 Record No.: 855
All members of the household
Name: Age: Married?: Pos. in household: Occupation: BirTD place:
Jensine Severinsen 30 Enke Huusmoder Af møllen Claruphede
Mathilde Madsen 5 Ugift Barn Lykkesholm Mølle
Christian Nielsen 48 Ugift Tjenestetyende Møllerkarl Thrækningen
Christian Larsen 56 Enkemand Tjenestetyende Af tyendeløn Gjæraae
Laurits Madsen 8 Ugift Plejebarn Rævbæk
Jensine Kristine Jensen 9 Ugift Plejebarn Sæbye
Could be this family:
Hjørring, Horns, Elling, Rimmen, Huus, 60, FT-1870, D7066
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Anne Thomsen 42 Gift Huusmoder Forsørges af fattigvæsenet Understed Sogn
Grete Amalia Nielsen 18 Ugift Datter Forsørges af fattigvæsenet Tolne Sogn
Jens Christian Nielsen 16 Ugift Søn Forsørges af fattigvæsenet Tolne Sogn
Niels Nielsen 13 Ugift Søn Forsørges af fattigvæsenet Tolne Sogn
Sesilia Jensen 11 Ugift Datter Forsørges af fattigvæsenet Tolne Sogn
Jenssine Jensen 9 Ugift Datter Forsørges af fattigvæsenet Tolne Sogn
Thomas Peter Jensen 7 Ugift Søn Forsørges af fattigvæsenet Tolne Sogn
Tinus Jensen 5 Ugift Søn Forsørges af fattigvæsenet Tolne Sogn
Peter Frederik Jensen 3 Ugift Søn Forsørges af fattigvæsenet Flade Sogn
- Source: Page 162
1870 Census: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=52310#52310,11784655
- cannot find birth records of the Jensen children supposedly born in Tolne parish.
Peter Fredrik Jensen born 19 Feb. 1867 in Flade parish, Hjørring county:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17122628#161834,27188846 - No 5
- Parents: Tenant Jens Christensen and wife Ane Thomsen
- Remarks: Parents Mormons (so you won't find any baptism or confirmation records in the church books).
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Hjørring, Horns, Tolne, Bækhuus, -, 49, FT-1855, D7495
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Niels Andersen 36 Gift Huusmand. huusfader Her i Sognet
Ane Thomsdatter 28 Gift Hans kone Understed S.
Anthon Christian Nielsen 6 Ugift Deres børn Understed S.
Ane Martine Nielsen 5 Ugift Deres børn Hørmested S.
Grethe Amalia Nielsen 3 Ugift Deres børn Her i Sognet
Jens Christian Nielsen 1 Ugift Deres børn Her i Sognet
Niels Nielsen born 21 May 1856 in Tolne: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127160#200774,38020315 - No 3
- Parents are Mormons.
Best regards,
Inger Toudal
Hjørring, Horns, Aasted, Frakholt, Et Hus, 73 F1, FT-1860, D6860
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Jens Christensen 36 G Inderste Daglejer Elling Hjør. Amt
Ane Thomsen 34 G Hans Kone Underste Hjør. Amt
Anton Chr. Nielsen 12 U Deres Børn Do [Underste Hjør. Amt]
Ane Martine Nielsen 11 U Deres Børn Hørmested Hjørr. Amt
Grethe Amalie Nielsen 8 U Deres Børn Tolne Hjør. Amt
Jens Chr. Josepsen?? 6 U Deres Børn Do [Tolne Hjør. Amt]
Niels Nielsen 3 U Deres Børn Do [Tolne Hjør. Amt]
Secillia Jensen 1 U Deres Børn Do [Tolne Hjør. Amt]
Best regards,
Inger
Bachelor Jens Christensen and widow Ane Thomasdatter were married in Tolne church 8 Apr. 1857:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127160#200774,38020381 - No 2
Venlig hilsen
Inger
Paul, thank you for sharing your time to help.
Inger, yes that is my family.
I found it interesting as I researched this family that in some records the Jensen children are Jensen's and sometimes Christensens.
I have found the birth records of all the children except for:
Thomas Peter
Peter Frederik
Jensine Christine
Any help finding any of these children would be greatly appreciated.
I wonder what happened to Jens Christensen between 1860 and 1904. Are there any divorce records to search?
The last census I found him in is 1860 (see below) He doesn't appear in the 1870 Census with his family but he didn't die until 1904. Yet his wife moved to the United states and is found in the 1880 Ephraim Utah census.
1860 Census showing the FAMILY of Jens Christensen (1822-1904 ) and Ann Thomasdatter (1825-1892)
Note: there are two families in the same county with parents with the same name.
Citathttp://www.sa.dk/content/dk/ao-forside/find_folketallinger 1860 Census Åsted, Hjørring #18, 73 (oops this link isn't working. Found this years ago, will have to search for it again)
CENSUS YEAR 1860 Åsted, Hjørring #18, 73 Jens Christensen, 36, married, born in Elling, Hjørring Amt, tenant, Day laborer, Mormon Ane Thomsen, 34, married, born in Understed, Hjørring Amt, his wife, Mormon
Anton Chr Nielsen, 12, unmarried, Understed, Hjørring Amt, their children, Mormon
Ane Martine Nielsen, 11, unmarried, Hørmested, Hjørring Amt, their children, Mormon
Grethe Amalie Nielsen, 8, unmarried, Tolne, Hjørring Amt, their children, Mormon
Jens Chr Nielsen, 6, unmarried, Tolne, Hjørring Amt, their children, Lutheran
Niels Nielsen, 3, unmarried, Tolne, Hjørring Amt, their children, Lutheran
Cecilia Jensen 1, unmarried, Tolne Hjørring Amt, their children, Lutheran
CitatParish record shows 20 January 1904 death date and lists parents as Sidsel Pedersdatter and Christen Anderson. Elling, Horns, Hjorring, Denmark:
Died 1904, January 17 in Elling workhouse (Poorhouse), Elling parish, Horns district.
Buried in Elling Churchyard, Elling parish, Horns district 1904, January 20
Name: Jens Christensen
Old age pensioned male of Elling workhouse, Elling parish, Horns district, born in Elling parish, son of unmarried Sidsel Pedersdatter from Folshave and appointed father batchelor Christen Andersen from Kragskov
82 years old
Buried by the parish priest
Thank you for your help,
Cyndi
1860 Census: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid14831134 - see Original Source
(Original Kilde), right page, top
1880 Census, Elling parish: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid9772330 (married)
1890 Census, Elling parish: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid12624447 (married)
Comments
Anmærkninger: Hans Kone er i Amerika. [Remarks: His wife is in America.]
1901 Census, Elling parish: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid13115609 (divorced)
Hjørring, Horns,
Elling, , 6 a., 260[1b],
FT-1901, D4638
Adresse: Stabæk Fattiggaard
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Mads Christian Nielsen 3/7 1825 Enkemand Fs. Alderdomsa?? paa Fattiggaarden Astrup, Sogn, Hjørring, Amt,
Jens Christensen 27/6 1822 Fraskilt Fs. Alderdomsa??* paa Fattiggaarden
Elling, Sogn, Hjørring, Amt, *
Alderdomsasylet1901 Census: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=21310#21310,1909372
Divorce records are probably not online: https://www.sa.dk/da/hjaelp-og-vejledning/rigsarkivets-online-vejledninger/skilsmissesager-kom-godt-gang/
Death record: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17122348#161317,27102846 - No 1
Seems Jens Christensen's parents got married:
Hjørring, Horns,
Elling, Heden, Hus, 41, ,
FT-1834, B5464
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Christen Andersen 29 Gift Husmand og daglejer
Sidsel Pedersdatter 37 Gift Hans kone
Jens Christensen 12 Ugift Deres barn Anders Christensen 9 Ugift Deres barn
Mads Christian Christensen 7 Ugift Deres barn
Mariane Christensdatter 3 Ugift Deres barn
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Where did you find birth records of the other children?
May I remind you of this: https://www.slaegtogdata.dk/forum/index.php/topic,169.0.html
Citat
Tell us what you have found out by yourself, especially which sources you might have used. Just to avoid
that other people look through the census that you have already been looking through yourself.
Venlig hilsen
Inger
Inger,
Thank you. I'm thrilled to have more on Jens, which I gave up on so long ago.
I'm amazed at how fast you all on this forum find info when I have spent years.
It has been 5 years since I worked on this family and just started this thread because someone changed the birthdate for Jensine on familytree with the headstone as a source. I've found with this family especially that headstones aren't necessarily a firm source. The change made on Familytree sparked my interest to once again try to find the true source.
I apologize for not putting all that I found back then.
I'm on vacation and should have waited till I was home to find it all. :(
I can't seem to leave this genealogy alone even while on vacation. :)
I mistakenly thought it would be enough to just list the places I've found her family in Censuses.
CitatÅsted and Fredrikshavn other places listed as her birth on death record and places I've found her family in censuses
When I get home I will find and post where I found the other children. (later I should be able to find in my excel sheet on this family where I found them. But back then I didn't always save links and when I did some links no longer work. What I did save was "opslag" #'s.)
Thank you all for your help and patience with those of us learning.
with gratitude,
Cyndi
Jensine Christine (Jensen/Christensen)
The following is what I have found on the family of Jensine Christine:
Using the opslag #'s I saved in my excel file, seemed to work on danishfamilysearch. This is not the program I used 5 years ago, but glad it seems to have the same page numbers and it wasn't to hard to find these records again.
I will begin with Jensine's mother Ane Thomasdatter, at the point of her 2nd marriage to Jens Christensen.
1st husband, Niels Andersen, died 5-29-1856 Tolne, Opslag 116
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn408/churchbook/source24929/opslag5039281
2nd marriage to Jens Christensen 04-08-1857 Tolne opslag 101
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn408/churchbook/source24929/opslag5039266 #2
Jensenius 1-11-1858 Tolne opslag 1
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn408/churchbook/source24930/opslag5039305 #2
Death of Jensenius 4-17-1858 Tolne opslag 178
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn408/churchbook/source24930/opslag18556298 #2
Witta Cecelie 5-20-1859 Tolne opslag 48
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn408/churchbook/source24930/opslag18556168 #3
The 1860 Census in Åsted opslag 18
Ane Thomasdatter's mother and step father in 1860 Census tolne opslag 5
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/census1860/sogn408 #229,230, 231
Poul Thomson, Maren Thomasdatter and granddaughter Grethe Amalia Nielsen.
Interesting that Grethe Amalia Nielsen is listed in both 1860 Censuses.
The one in Aasted with mother and step father and the one in Tolne with grandparents.
CAN'T FIND:
Jensine Christine 9-27-1861 Flade according to Redmond, Utah church records but Tolne according to 1870 Census
Thomas Peter Jensen 1870 Elling Census shows him to be 7 years old and lists Tolne as birth place
Tinus Christensen Jensen 12-24-1864 Flade, Hjorring Opslag 55
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn396/churchbook/source5435/opslag2120987 #30
Peter Fredrick Jensen 02-19-1867 Flade, Hjorring opslag 66
You found:
CitatPeter Fredrik Jensen born 19 Feb. 1867 in Flade parish, Hjørring county:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17122628#161834,27188846 - No 5
Many Danish records have been indexed during the past 5 years, making it easier to find some persons, but not all.
Just to sum up:
Married in Tolne 1857.
Children born in Tolne 1858 and 1859.
1 Feb. 1860 in Aasted.
Children born in Flade 1864 and 1867.
1 Feb. 1870 in Elling.
Where is the family hiding in the period 1860 to 1863, when the children Jensine and Thomas Peter are born ??
Best regards,
Inger
Yes. That sums it up well.